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To make DD wear a dress?

284 replies

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 15:13

She has a church Christmas carol service tonight. It’s a knitted , casual dress that she picked and worn many times before. Apparently all her friends will be wearing jeans/leggings and band/casual tshirts. She doesn’t want to wear the dress because all her friends will be in jeans. In my eyes , it’s irrelevant what everyone does and it’s a sign of respect to the church, the event and other people going. If she had anything else (other than her uniform)even remotely smart casual it would be fine , but she doesn’t(I’ll work on that situation in the new year). The dress fits her well and she looks great in it, but like I said, it’s not even that she hates her dress it’s about what everyone else will wear.
She’s not kicking off, but she’s not happy about it either.

AIBU to tell her she has to wear the dress?

OP posts:
3within3 · 15/12/2025 17:52

EatYourDamnPie · 15/12/2025 17:45

This argument makes me extremely uncomfortable. While I know it’s a pick your battles situation, how far should I let things slide /how far should she go for fear of “social death”?

Id say the tipping point is when we’re worried for them, rather than worried for others or for ourselves

Ddakji · 15/12/2025 17:56

EatYourDamnPie · 15/12/2025 17:45

This argument makes me extremely uncomfortable. While I know it’s a pick your battles situation, how far should I let things slide /how far should she go for fear of “social death”?

Honestly, I wouldn’t bother listening to people who are so stupid they can’t read all your posts before commenting - their opinions are worthless. Don’t give any of them a second’s thought.

Instructions · 15/12/2025 18:11

I go to a children's carol service every Christmas Eve at which the vicars wear jeans and Christmas jumpers.

Honestly, op, I think your approach is pretty outdated. I also wonder how much of your stance comes from "but what will people think of me if my daughter doesn't wear a dress?"

RobinEllacotStrike · 15/12/2025 18:34

3within3 · 15/12/2025 17:35

Glad you got to a decent outcome OP.
Best teen parenting advice I ever received was “connection over correction”

i can relate home video GIF

as someone with a very difficult 14yo DD I'm going to cling to “connection over correction” for a while. 🙏🏼

Itslikesowhatever · 15/12/2025 18:37

Seems like you won’t listen no matter what anyone says so it was pointless posting!

Imdunfer · 15/12/2025 19:03

EatYourDamnPie · 15/12/2025 17:45

This argument makes me extremely uncomfortable. While I know it’s a pick your battles situation, how far should I let things slide /how far should she go for fear of “social death”?

Do you want a relationship with her when she's an adult?

As far as a14 year old needs to go to feel she belongs. Your job is too make her feel so strong that she doesn't feel the need to follow the herd, not to physically prevent her from putting on clothes that do that.

Ddakji · 15/12/2025 19:29

Imdunfer · 15/12/2025 19:03

Do you want a relationship with her when she's an adult?

As far as a14 year old needs to go to feel she belongs. Your job is too make her feel so strong that she doesn't feel the need to follow the herd, not to physically prevent her from putting on clothes that do that.

Edited

Another one who hasn’t bothered to read all the OP’s posts and see that she and her DD came to a solution that not only suited everyone but fitted in with what the majority were wearing.

What do you get out of these posts?

EatYourDamnPie · 15/12/2025 19:41

Imdunfer · 15/12/2025 19:03

Do you want a relationship with her when she's an adult?

As far as a14 year old needs to go to feel she belongs. Your job is too make her feel so strong that she doesn't feel the need to follow the herd, not to physically prevent her from putting on clothes that do that.

Edited

Yeah…. No. That’s not how it works.

OP posts:
Imdunfer · 15/12/2025 19:46

Ddakji · 15/12/2025 19:29

Another one who hasn’t bothered to read all the OP’s posts and see that she and her DD came to a solution that not only suited everyone but fitted in with what the majority were wearing.

What do you get out of these posts?

I answered the question that I quoted !

And who made you forum police? Whoever it was they recruited PC Plod, not Morse.

Ddakji · 15/12/2025 20:23

Imdunfer · 15/12/2025 19:46

I answered the question that I quoted !

And who made you forum police? Whoever it was they recruited PC Plod, not Morse.

Edited

I’m not the one plodding through the thread, incapable of pressing “see next” or “see all”.

I think I’ll unfollow this thread as no doubt for the next week it’ll carry on with people screeching “she’s 14 not 4” for the trillionth time.

Loobyloot · 15/12/2025 21:37

I'm a Christian. Doesn't matter whether she wears a dress or jeans. My teens wear whatever they want to church, as do I. Sometimes I'm in a dress mood, others jeans and big jumper.

QuietComet · 15/12/2025 21:49

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 15:42

The thing is, she’d have something to say if I went with her dressed in my trakkies or my santa skirt. And I can respect a venue /event even if I don’t believe in it. I wouldn’t visit a mosque in shorts and a tank top either.

Mosques have very clear rules for how to dress. Church doesn't.

There's a difference between church and a job interview, as you mentioned earlier.

Church should be a welcoming place where a teenager should be free to express themselves / be themselves through their clothing choice.
This church is obviously one where your daughter feels comfortable and welcome as she has chosen to join, and it's wonderful that she feels comfortable enough to tell her church peers "this is who I am".

You're comparing apples and oranges.

JA121 · 15/12/2025 22:10

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 15:13

She has a church Christmas carol service tonight. It’s a knitted , casual dress that she picked and worn many times before. Apparently all her friends will be wearing jeans/leggings and band/casual tshirts. She doesn’t want to wear the dress because all her friends will be in jeans. In my eyes , it’s irrelevant what everyone does and it’s a sign of respect to the church, the event and other people going. If she had anything else (other than her uniform)even remotely smart casual it would be fine , but she doesn’t(I’ll work on that situation in the new year). The dress fits her well and she looks great in it, but like I said, it’s not even that she hates her dress it’s about what everyone else will wear.
She’s not kicking off, but she’s not happy about it either.

AIBU to tell her she has to wear the dress?

I personally don’t think her wearing a dress is a hill you should be dying on, at least she is in church! Many young people avoid it like the plague. Her wearing a dress isn’t important but you forcing her to could be something that puts her off church-

“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6‬:‭25‬-‭27‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Usernamenotav · 15/12/2025 22:56

My 4 year old gets to choose what she wants to wear. 14?? Stop being so controlling.

Usernamenotav · 15/12/2025 23:01

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 15:31

By asking her. She’s a good kid so it often doesn’t take more than that. Like I said, she’s not really arguing back but I can see she’s unhappy, which is why I posted.

So you can see she is unhappy, but you know she will do as she's told regardless of being unhappy and that's OK with you?

Usernamenotav · 15/12/2025 23:15

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 19:41

Well we’re back. A lot of people were in jeans and a nice top/jumper/blouse. Some of the girls were in dresses/skirts. Only one person from her group of friends was in leggings and a band tee . DD was perfectly average (lesson learned for me) in her smarter jeans and her zip up , fitted jumper hoodie (lesson learned for her), rather than the baggy ones with dangly bits. She wouldn’t have stood out in the dress either tbh . She said she might wear it at the Christmas service .🙈

It's not about the dress and never was. It's about autonomy. I have clothes that I like (like your daughter with the dress) but don't always feel like wearing. You seem to think it's hilarious that she wants to wear the dress another time when she's said no to this event. You're very bizarre.

DelphiniumBlue · 15/12/2025 23:55

Surely if she’s singing in the choir they would have said if she needed to wear anything in particular? Most churches are freezing so jeans and just a T-shirt might be a bit chilly, but presumably she knows that.

Luckylu123 · 16/12/2025 00:00

While I agree with your attitude/value (I def agree some places you should dress up to show respect) but unfortunately I think she’s going to feel embarrassed that she’s the odd one out and that will make her resent you and your lesson, more than what she’ll take away from it. I feel like this is one of those pick your battles situation.. I don’t really know the right way to encourage her to share this value of yours, good luck

EatYourDamnPie · 16/12/2025 06:28

Usernamenotav · 15/12/2025 23:01

So you can see she is unhappy, but you know she will do as she's told regardless of being unhappy and that's OK with you?

I wasn’t fully OK with it , which is why posted. Otherwise I would’ve just done it.

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SweetnsourNZ · 16/12/2025 06:37

I never wore dresses at 14 either. Don't force her please. This is a pick your battles moment and really not worth it. If its a Christmas service it will probably be packed to bursting and nobody will even notice anyway.

SweetnsourNZ · 16/12/2025 06:42

EatYourDamnPie · 14/12/2025 17:06

It happens to be a dress because she doesn’t have a lot of smart casual options. Since it was a dress she picked and happily wore before, I considered it to be a good option. She has black smart trousers but she was adamant those were definitely a no go. We compromised in the end . Her “good” jeans and a nice jumper.

That sounds good. She will be warm too.

Rocknrollstar · 16/12/2025 07:10

Surely it is more important that she goes rather than what she wears? Let her be comfortable.

Stucknstoopit · 16/12/2025 21:01

OP , you’ve said ‘The kid is … interesting’ and ‘she’s fussy as fuck’ and
’we Compromised’

Your child is well on the way to becoming a young adult.

‘Black smart trousers’ , sounds like an office of part time working mums circa 2000.
In future, it would be so respectful and rewarding for you both if you Let her decide her clothes, especially for something like a carol service for a church and religion you have no interest in.

when we don’t let our kids have autonomy we are showing them that we don’t trust them to make their own decisions.
we need to show we respect our kids and that we believe they are capable of making sensible choices.

Not allowing them this freedom where appropriate is setting them up to have little confidence in their own decisions, which can impact their confidence and self belief.

Sometimes they need a safe opportunity to maybe make a mistake and hopefully learn from it.
in this scenario what she wanted to wear wouldn’t have been a mistake.

I have been the child who was forced to wear the clothes my mum chose for me right up until I left home (very prematurely). It was not good being the Amish looking kid against my will, if I’d chosen that look myself it would have been different .

i tried to be the opposite with my kids up to a point, I wanted them to fit in where I couldn’t.
I learned very early on that making them wear certain things for certain occasions made them unhappy and we did compromise sometimes but I’m talking about them being half the age of your teenage girl.

on the whole i learned early to choose my battles and that everyone is a lot happier when they’re comfortable in their clothes, often my kids would choose to be different from their peers and I sometimes worried about that.
they soon assimilated in high school and I never discouraged it because I know how important it is for kids to feel like they fit with their crew.

most school aged kids have no choice about what they wear five days a week for 39 weeks of the year, often including evening and weekend if they’re doing extra curricular activities so it’s no biggie for me to let them wear what they like for the rest of the time.

no matter what we feel about ‘sheep’ or running with the herd, most humans are pack animals and one of the ways we find our herd , pack or tribe is by the way we look.
most kids at school have very distinct groups and looks which help to mark them out as part of one group or another.

I’m sure you have your ‘look’ @EatYourDamnPie such as your aforementioned Santa skirt or trakkies, which helps other people find you when they have similar taste to yours, it’s one of the ways we bond.

perhaps this choir experience will help you to understand that your daughter is growing up and is a very short time away from leaving school, becoming eligible to vote and all the things that mark us as adults.

You can use this to help show you’re realising she’s not a little girl anymore and perhaps it is time to get some new clothes for her to feel proud of and earmark some to be smarter for occasions, but her idea of smarter, not her mum’s idea.

DetectiveDouche · 17/12/2025 09:25

Oh ye Gods let her wear what she likes. Do you not remember being 14??

SezFrankly · 17/12/2025 10:39

YABU - in fact, I’ll go a step further, you’re being worse.

14 is the absolute peak of teens needing to fit in with their mates. leave her to decide what she wears to her own confirmation