People like this should be deborted

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74x9ln0y4qo.amp

Why is there even a chance of any of these two remaining here in the UK? They had their chance and ended up doing what they did.

*deported

If anyone is gaslighting, it’s you

I work in this area. It is very hard to deport people with no documentation.
They may not even be from Afghanistan.
Probably lied about their names and ages as most do.
They need to be accepted at the end of their journey or they’ll be refused entry.
Not easy to get some countries to comply with taking back their own citizens.
Hence the fondness for giving people money to go home. So they comply with efforts to establish their identity. Best way to do that is to detain them but with hundreds arriving on small boards along with the larger group of people already here who switch to an asylum claim the detention space will never be enough.

I hope they have brooms rammed up their bums in prison.

I doubt they’re 17, they look in their 20s.

I would want them to serve their 10 years and then be deported. There is no punishment that can really see justice served for this poor girl and her family but time in prison and then getting rid of them is the best we can do. I have little faith it will be done though, but public pressure can help.

It says in the article they are being deported .......

They won't go anywhere, or will be back soon enough, as unfortunately the liberal elite of this country care more about being do gooders rather than ensuring the safety of women and girls

I don’t get this argument. I wish we could deport British men who do this but obviously it would be a terrible thing to inflict rapists on another country. In the same way I don’t want rapists from other countries coming to ours! Why is it so controversial not to want these men?
Just because we already have men who rape doesn’t mean we have to accept more! Especially from countries who are known for treating women terribly. I would happily welcome the women.

The rights of men, even foreign rapists, are always considered over the safety of women. As ever.

I hate these sentiments.

You SHOULD want justice, so the state should exact justice. Not lazy criminals who may or may not, depending on their whims.

As an immigrant myself I want them deported and I have no idea why anyone is arguing otherwise. I'm so tired of the impact this kind of nonsense has on the many thousand of immigrants just living normal lives. The whole asylum system is a car crash and we're going to have a bloody Reform Gov in a few years if no one deals with it.

Also I think it's legitimate to have a conversation about cultural compatibility re immigration i.e. the issue of taking men from cultures where women are routinely treated like dirt

I agree. I am fed up with the faux naivety around other countries attitudes to women. No country is perfect but if people come from a country where women have no rights why are we shocked when they treat women badly.

Sentence served, deportation and a lifetime ban on returning. This should be for any crime. If you want to come to the UK, you should, at the very least, abide by UK laws.

Yawn? So rapists should get off with it because of their skin colour then?

Migrants jailed for sexual assault just walk out of prison

No they don't. After serving their time, they are transferred from prison to immigration detention/removal centres and returned to the country they came from.

It would help if you read the article you posted

The age of criminal responsibility in Britain is 10. They committed possibly the most adult of all crimes. So yes, I think they should be deported. We should have prison agreements so foreigners serve sentences at home.

Generally my view is that there should be two types of asylum: (a) the vulnerable fleeing a war zone, (b) brave high profile individuals like Salman Rushdie or Ken Saro Wiwa (who didn’t flee sadly). Fighting age men aren’t either. If they don’t like their country as it is, they should stay and fight to make it as they wish it to be. Maybe if more Afghan men had stayed and supported the previous government then the Taliban wouldn’t have returned to power. It takes commitment to create a civil society like ours.

PS The fleeing vulnerable includes other zones equivalent to war. Drought causing famine etc. These are hopefully all temporary and the international community should step in to help make it possible to go home.

One has been handed deportation papers. The other has been recommended for deportation but as he is 17, the judge cannot make that decision and it has been handed to the government who will no doubt deport him. This is a total non story that OP has posted in order to get people frothing about immigration.

Afghanistan can be harder to deport to

Of course, but they won't deport them, they will continue allowing young men with a similar mindset to sexually assault women.

One has been handed deportation papers and the other has been recommended for deportation, but as he’s 17 the government must make the final decision.

Exactly. Im non white and already I can sense that brown and black people who have been in this country for 2 generations plus are going to bear the brunt of the inevitable backlash. Already a MP whose mistake was to be born in Kashmir is being told she is not British and has no right to sit in Parliament. All because we can't have a sensible immigration policy like most other countries.

Thanks liberal lefties!

Yep this. Plus it’s very hard to deport to some countries even after a serious crime.

No necessarily true.
In Ireland, two refugees had a fight with knifes, one died, both had previously charged in Italy for rape, deported to Nigeria before popping over to Ireland.
There is no international checks as both were registered for payment and accommodation.