Why can’t we just hang scum like this?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2k4qd8q97eo

Worse than being a killer.

I think if it's incredibly clear cut we should move towards euthanasia as an option where there is true evil, incurable psychopath, depraved and totally unredeemable.

Evidence dna and video etc these days means we are often 100% sure of guilt in some cases.

The money spent keeping even 2 or 3 of these in prison for life should be spent on the victims/families instead

Exactly.

There was a female nursery worker who sexually abused children in her care, Plymouth.

But i get your point.

Perhaps rather than ask for the death penalty, we should be asking "How did this happen?"
How did a man abuse toddlers in his care for many years, its a closed environment, he should never have been allowed to continue his vile abuse, where are the checks? what concerns were raised and then not acted on?

Sure we could hang him but it wouldn't stop this type of abuse by others.

So let me get this clear.

Murderers who we aren't sure about can be locked up forever.
But murderers we are sure about get hanged ?

Seems so simple. You have to wonder what they spend the other 10 years at law school doing ?

Angela Canning, Sally Clark, Judith Ward were all convicted of child murder. All later acquitted. I can't support the death penalty while innocent people could pay the ultimate price

To be honest, a high profile prisoner who has committed sexual offences against little children….may not last that long in prison.

The money spent keeping even 2 or 3 of these in prison for life should be spent on the victims/families instead

Of we could put it towards compensating all those people wrongly convicted and jailed for decades ?

Yes I fully agree with the reasons why we don't have the death penalty but I'd make an exception for him and Wayne Couzens.

He should be sent to Wakefield prison to serve his sentence . They deal very well with paedophiles there!

Exactly. But I think in the two cases I mentioned there is no doubt whatsoever. That said, Wayne Couzens wouldn't have pleaded guilty if the death penalty had awaited him.

I'll never support the death penalty for 2 reasons, 1 because someone needs to actually give that sentence and another needs to carry out that sentence and I can't expect someone else to do something I couldn't. And 2 because someone i know suffered due to the person who abused them dying in prison. It hurt them to know he had escaped his sentence.

He will be in fear for his life every day, though. Look what happened to Ian Watkins and others.

I'm just as horrified by his actions but I don't agree with capital punishment. I believe that human life is sacred and nobody has the right to take someone elses life. I do hope that he is punished severely and kept away from the rest of us for ever.

Well that's an idea.

We (the Great British Public) gets one hanging a year. Done by a sort of X-Factor viewer poll. Ant and Dec could host.

Each entry costs £5, and the winning entry gets to nominate their Tyburn Jigger of the year.

With T-Shirts and at least 20 US states primed to buy the format we could get the UK back into shape in no times.

Looks like I've got the hang of this thread now.

It’s a difficult one.

On one hand, why should we pay for these monsters to live in protected accommodation amongst other monsters who share stories and pornography and create a wider peado circle.
They’re not going to come out of prison and suddenly not want to harm little kids anymore.

But on the other hand, death is too easy.
So many people kill themselves because it is easier than having to live with the consequences.
Sometimes it’s from guilt, sometimes it’s from being attacked by the other prisoners/guards and sometimes it’s because they’re scared of being released.

If the death penalty was legal then this man who had video evidence would be on the list.
Some people say that people are falsely convicted which does happen but the death penalty would be for those who are 100% guilty, like this man.

At the very least these men need to be chemically castrated.

I wonder how many people here would have a bleeding heart for convicted and executed murderer Ruth Ellis ?

Some people say that people are falsely convicted which does happen but the death penalty would be for those who are 100% guilty, like this man.

So you are happy to send people where it's 99% to jail for the rest of their life ?

Surely by that logic it should be 99% of their life ?

I'd argue it's more inhuman to lock someone up for 50 years - other than keeping them out of society what's the point?

If somebody has the mindset that means re-offending can be expected so that release is not on the cards at all then surely the humane thing, actually, would be to bring their life to a close rather than have them staring at decades of incarceration with no reprieve - in those circs and with their mindset attacks on prison staff are almost inevitable as what further consequences could you throw at someone like that?

A "humane" full life term sentence has a high "punitive" element to it when actually punishing someone "for the rest of their life" doesn't really achieve anything.

Offenders like Levi Bellfield, Ian Watkins, Peter Sutcliffe have people from all over the world writing to them and engaging with them fuelling their grandiose ideas of their own importance and fame. I'd rather just be rid of them.

Because no government should have the right to murder it’s citizens.

How can we know how long someone will live?

Because as a nation we made the democratic choice to be better than that.

I agree with the idea in theory; there are definitely some people that commit crimes so awful that they do not need to be alive.

But there is no system that can apply the death penalty so that no innocent person is convicted or killed. So it should not be used.

Studies in the US suggest that around 4% of all inmates on Death Row are innocent and since 1973 200 former death row inmates were wrongly convicted, sentenced to death and then exonerated. There's just too much room for error.

Don't have to execute them. I'd be quite happy if they served 50,60, 70 years inside. A living hell worse than death. Oh, and only the basics, to keep the costs down !

So you are happy to send people where it's 99% to jail for the rest of their life ?
Surely by that logic it should be 99% of their life ?

Was that really worth typing?? 🙄

Yes id be happy with this / I'm in no way advocating for this on any sort of US/China/Iran scale.
And I do mean euthanasia rather than execution