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Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:14

I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

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DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:21

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

It doesn't matter, I agree things were left in a very bad state, but now, over a year on, they clearly have no plan to reverse any of the issues - and are making the mess worse.

People will tolerate high taxes if they see real benefits, in Scandinavia they pay almost 50% tax, but everything runs fine - in effect labour take more tax from us and give it away, as pay rises, or benefits. Not a penny is put towards repairing problems of encouraging growth.

The problem is people will react by voting Reform or Green etc. all of whom talk the talk, but have no hands on experience - Reform in particular terrify me and could make a real mess.

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:27

randomchap · 01/12/2025 09:14

He should be knighted for his work with prisoners even before he was in government. Helping former prisoners is of huge value to the country

So the right person was chosen for the job, rather than some venal mate shoehorned in for their and the PM own befit and favour. That is genuinely groundbreaking in terms of how government has been built over the last decade. Def worth celebrating.

BusMumsHoliday · 01/12/2025 09:27

I resigned my Labour membership over the recent immigration proposals. I can't be in a party that trades in sub-Farage rhetoric about asylum seekers with bags of gold and deliberately endangering children so they don't get deported.

Other than that - I think the overall picture is some good stuff (workers rights, 2 child cap lifted, curriculum reform proposals, some headway with NHS stuff, mansion tax), some not going far enough (I'd have liked to see more tax reform and council tax rebanding in the budget) some absolute own goals (Rayner), and an typical left wing inability to just get the job at hand done without tearing yourselves apart (which I say as someone on the left).

Pleasealexa · 01/12/2025 09:29

I'm so disappointed/angry with Labours duplicitous approach on women's rights.

elastamum · 01/12/2025 09:29

If we paid an average of 50% tax we could have decent public services too, but I can't see the UK public voting for it. We seem to expect European standard public services with a US tax base.

Wellnowlookhere · 01/12/2025 09:30

SwordToFlamethrower · 01/12/2025 09:05

Overall I am happy yeah. They aren't the Tories. They aren't perfect but they're taxing posh schools and taking land back from the Lords and Ladies who pretend to farm but don't. They are bringing back sure start, investing into parks, sorting out immigration. Stopped HS2. Now the 2 child cap is being lifted.

Genuine question…so who do you think actually IS farming?

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:32

LadyKenya · 01/12/2025 09:07

I feel the same, I will look more into the Green Party I think.

The ones who think men can become women? Nein danke.

Sartre · 01/12/2025 09:33

DH voted for them purely because it was force of habit and he knew our area had a high chance of reform taking the vote (historically Tory area). I voted Green for the first time.

We were happy about the promise of free breakfast clubs but that doesn’t seem to have happened. They rolled it out in 700 schools last year I believe but ours wasn’t included. I saw they’re rolling out next year in 2k more schools but it’s those with over 40% on FSM, ours doesn’t fit the criteria… Breakfast club fees have actually recently increased.

The budget is a bit meh, doesn’t really massively affect us aside from the EV charge in a couple of years.

Westfacing · 01/12/2025 09:34

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 08:35

Ive always been anti reform, but honestly starting my to think they deserve a chance. I’m actually so depressed by it all.

As a Labour voter no, I'm not happy, in fact very unhappy.

On what grounds does Reform 'deserve' a chance?

browser2025 · 01/12/2025 09:34

I’m completely at a loss over who to vote for now. I’ve always leaned slightly centre-left, but this government is appalling. I honestly don’t understand how they’re still allowed to carry on. We’ve become so desensitised that every new scandal or disastrous decision barely registers anymore, it’s just another headline rather than something that triggers national outrage strong enough to bring real change. The next few years are going to be rough.

Even the OBR revealed that the supposed shortfall had been revised down several times during 2024 and 2025, showing a surplus instead. So that tired one-liner they were all programmed to spout about inheriting a £22 billion black hole was complete bollocks. There was actually a surplus.

I genuinely have no idea who to vote for. I know I don’t want Reform getting in, and although Kemi Badenoch is impressive, I still don’t trust another Conservative government.

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:35

user67392167904 · 01/12/2025 09:13

Imagine the shitshow the next Government will inherit from this crowd!
I don’t usually take much notice of politics, there is enough misery in the world, but the 8am news this morning on the way to school was almost entirely lying Politicians, Reeves and her imaginary black hole, a woman MP who has got into trouble for corruption in Pakistan, and another one sacked for something else, can’t remember what. And this is the party that was going to bring standards back to Westminster…

Eh? Labour are actually doing something about the shit show, it'll just take time.

ilovesooty · 01/12/2025 09:37

Sasssquatch · 01/12/2025 09:27

So the right person was chosen for the job, rather than some venal mate shoehorned in for their and the PM own befit and favour. That is genuinely groundbreaking in terms of how government has been built over the last decade. Def worth celebrating.

Absolutely. Not the sort of information that gets much recognition or media coverage though.

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:37

DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:21

It doesn't matter, I agree things were left in a very bad state, but now, over a year on, they clearly have no plan to reverse any of the issues - and are making the mess worse.

People will tolerate high taxes if they see real benefits, in Scandinavia they pay almost 50% tax, but everything runs fine - in effect labour take more tax from us and give it away, as pay rises, or benefits. Not a penny is put towards repairing problems of encouraging growth.

The problem is people will react by voting Reform or Green etc. all of whom talk the talk, but have no hands on experience - Reform in particular terrify me and could make a real mess.

It does matter, and it will take a long time to recover from years of weak and inept tory chums leadership.

Whistonia · 01/12/2025 09:38

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 09:01

We just have Rayner effectively stealing off her son and Rachel being being accused of purposely manipulating the markets.

How was she stealing off her son!
Yes she didn’t pay the correct stamp duty but saying she stole off her son is not correct.

Her son brought her share of the house as she was getting divorced. The other option was to sell the house that had been adapted specifically for him.

rafeal · 01/12/2025 09:42

I voted Labour and am generally a soft lefty and whilst my instinct is that they inherited a mess and are trying to clear it up, their actions suggest otherwise and I’m so disappointed that yet again the government is playing party politics with our economy.

Just like Brexit was Cameron’s mad attempt to calm the anti-Europe faction in the tories, Reeves is doing exactly the same:

Raising the minimum wage will not help the cost of living one jot as costs of employment go straight to the consumer and the poor are the people this affects the most. They will have no more money in their pocket. Rents at the lower end will increase as everyone suddenly has a bit more cash and the cost of living will continue to rise. She knows this but it placates the left.

The tax on £2 million raises a paltry amount budget-wise and creates a load more unnecessary work and admin (in itself a cost) but is a great soundbite for her backbenchers. It’s economic political tinkering when we need transformation.

Removing the tax breaks on salary sacrifice removes the incentive to save more for the future when a lot of people, after years of prioritising mortgages and childcare, are looking at inadequate pensions and now need to find more cash (from where?) to make up the difference.

Labour came into power saying they knew that they needed to get a grip on the welfare bill but this wasn’t popular with their backbenchers and so this has gone nowhere. Did they need to reduce the welfare bill or did they not? I don’t know but it was a key policy at one point.

I also hate the toxic rhetoric which is as bad any other government were using and using ‘working people’ to mean practically only those who are minimum wage and ‘broadest shoulders’ to justify squeezing people who’s shoulders are almost broken, is incredibly divisive and political in its purpose (ie to calm rebellious back benchers). The country needs uplifting - we do not to demonise those, also ‘working people’ who are indeed shouldering an ever increasing burden.

I am lucky, the mortgage is almost paid off, I don’t have a £2 million house or a child in private school and salary sacrifice changes mean I will spend less on other things. However I do have young adult children saddled with university debts worse than their American cousins and a very challenging job situation on graduation. It is the younger generations I am seriously concerned about.

Yet Labour feel it’s fine to use the country’s economy for politics.

DeftWasp · 01/12/2025 09:42

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 09:37

It does matter, and it will take a long time to recover from years of weak and inept tory chums leadership.

I don't disagree, it will take more than this parliament, but they are not doing anything that will help, when are they planning on starting? I voted for them and rather hoped they would get going ASAP

Almondflour · 01/12/2025 09:44

They will never get my vote again. I am very against increasing benefits. I was hoping labour would reduce the PIP spending but it looks like the backbenchers hold the power now.

EasternStandard · 01/12/2025 09:46

EINSEINSNULL · 01/12/2025 08:45

What did people expect, with the utter shitshow that was inherited by them?

They probably expected what Labour sold in “fully funded, fully costed”.

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:47

I can't imagine that anyone that isn't on benefits is happy with the government. They just keep taxing at ever turn and those that pay in at high rates of tax get the same shit service as those that pay in naff all. It is utter madness.

Kirbert2 · 01/12/2025 09:48

I voted Labour and would vote Labour again.

I don't agree with everything Labour have done but Tories and Reform will never be an option for me so Labour it is.

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

cooliebrown · 01/12/2025 09:52

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 01/12/2025 09:01

We just have Rayner effectively stealing off her son and Rachel being being accused of purposely manipulating the markets.

to be honest purposely manipulating the markets is exactly what I want a Chancellor of the Exchequer to be doing

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:53

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:51

I think they are fine. It’s not even been 18 months, I’m not sure wtf people expected after 18 months of trying to fix 14 years of Tory shitshow.

People are so impatient these days and expect everything done yesterday. There are people whining for general elections already. They need to grow up and get a grip!

Yes they've only been in for 18 months but they are already showing who they are by not only not cutting benefits but increasing it by £26 billion. While increasing income tax! I'm loving paying more money in tax while 8 million of working age do nothing.

Patchedupsocks · 01/12/2025 09:54

I don't vote, not taking blame for any of the shit that was voted in. I don't like the tories much but would have NEVER voted in Sir labour either, so will never vote for any as none speak for me.

Alpacajigsaw · 01/12/2025 09:55

angelos02 · 01/12/2025 09:53

Yes they've only been in for 18 months but they are already showing who they are by not only not cutting benefits but increasing it by £26 billion. While increasing income tax! I'm loving paying more money in tax while 8 million of working age do nothing.

I live in Scotland where I’ve been hammered for tax for years

I’ve never been better off after a budget irrespective of who’s been in power.