Is there anyone on here who voted Labour who is genuinely happy with how things are going

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I didn’t vote Labour, but was actually quite excited. We needed change, now I dint think that at all and although Tories weren’t great in many respects, this shit show feels worse! I’m so tired of our politicians just not doing what is best for the country and having to curtail to babk benchers/unions, lining their own pockets and wardrobes and generally just being untrustworthy.
i have no doubt Farage will get in next time, and it will be Keir’s fault.

I didn't say the majority wasn't unhappy. That wasn't OP's question. I said I wasn't unhappy.

Thank you for your concern. He’s fine but you know what I’ve faced job losses before, me not him, we know shit happens. We bounce back. Where he works is always busy so fingers crossed.

They had two budgets so far and whacked tax A LOT on both… I’m not saying taxes don’t need to be raised or loopholes closed BUT they literally delivered a budget for people on benefits. So yeah, they did taxed and spend.

Fiscal planning always involves projections, assumptions and uncertainties.
Their initial financing plan was plausible – but fragile, based on optimistic revenue, assumptions about economic growth and politically uncertain tax/borrowing levers.
With any government newly coming into power, with higher-than-expected spending pressure, economic headwinds, and political trade-offs (e.g. union/business balance), some compromises are inevitable.

You either think this way about politics or you don't. It's OK to disagree.

That’s good. I think you mentioned Scotland and the revaluation which is causing major issues is England, not sure about Wales.

they are trying to find ways of appeasing the electorate rather than telling it how it is

I think they are also trying to appease their MPs. Benefit reform is needed but they fear any changes. They fear a backlash for upholding the law on women's rights due to labour MP activists.

I still don't know what they stand for. What is their vision for Britain?

The government cannot undo 14 years of a shit show in five mins. All those corrupt MPs feathering their own nests.
And as for reform - is the electorate that stupid they think farage and his mates will look after them - that sending all foreigners back will make everything perfect, cutting all benefits to the sick, frail and vulnerable will make the working people rich. The people who think Dubai is paradise (then they expect the UK to bail them out when the money is spent and things go wrong).

It was a budget for those on benefits. Not for those that pay for those on benefits. I definitely think the best years of the UK are behind us. Also, no big announcement on illegal immigration - just more tinkering about.

“The electric bill in our house has been sky high for years. And a lot of it doesn’t work. So we got in a new electrician, and they’ve done some stuff. The light in the bathroom’s stopped fizzing, and the food mixer doesn’t trip the fusebox. But the lights in the basement still don’t work. And the dimmer in the living room is still useless. Oh, and the bill’s still high. But my sister knows this chap Nigel. He’s not an electrician - no qualifications or anything - he’s actually a telemarketer. But, given the state of our electrics, we think he and his mates from the pub should be given a chance. And a lot of money.”

I can. But there first 18 months doesn’t seem to demonstrate that they know how to do it or at least the backbenchers won’t let them do it.

Reform won’t get in.

there is a solid mass of voters who are strongly strongly opposed to reform. All the polling suggests that voters are voting tactically at the moment and are likely to continue in the near future.

too many people remember Truss/Kwarteng budget and Boris and while Sunak steadied the ship there’s a lot of people out there who can’t bring themselves to vote Tory as a result, including many traditional Tory voters.

Reform politicians have been funded by Russia. People are only interested in them on a “fuck it nobody else can be worse” basis.

it can indeed get very much worse and the politicians all know it and quite a few of the population.

we are not in a time anymore where people’s lives get better each year. That time is gone, at least for a while. People are pissed off about this, but it isn’t the fault of Kier or Kemi or Zack.

to quote I think Gandalf - all we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us.

I wish I had not lived through a worldwide pandemic and turbulent times. But I do and I have and I accept that my life changed a lot for the worse as did the lives of many others. While I lost people close to me I am happy I didn’t die and I accept that things are going to be tough for quite a while.

right now the politicians are largely doing their best in difficult times. I would love to live in better times but right now we do not and I accept this.

All politicians are liars. I don’t think any political party has the answer to solve this issue. I think that fundamentally our economic model is broken and seems to rely on endless, unsustainable growth. Pair that with a culture in Britain of people expecting too much for too little. There’s things about Labour I’m not too happy with but the markets haven’t slumped after the budget so I’m pleased by that.

Our media is so right wing and dismal they don’t bother reporting on any improvements anyway.

Reform are certainly not the answer. Brexit which was Farage’s baby has already proved to be an unmitigated disaster. Wait til you’re having to pay for medical bills thanks to Farage privatising the NHS then you’ll see how bad it can actually get.

Under the two-child cap parents could only claim universal credit or tax credits for their first two children. Shame on anyone who thinks that a child should not be eligible because of the circumstances of their birth. One in nine children were affected by the cap and missed out. FFS!

People on UC pay taxes BTW.

I agree it wasn’t for the electorate, and now they’re finding out what that means for support, same for upcoming votes.

That they would make the changes they promised to turn it around rather than just put tax in breach of their manifesto for what we now know were purely ideological reasons.

They inherited a mess and turned into an absolute disaster.

I'm completely disillusioned by Labour. They stated pre election they were Labour for working people, to make work pay etc. Well unless you're on minimum wage or with multiple kids, they've done bugger all to help working people.

Can someone please set up a party that is common sense?
As far as I can see:
Tories = privileged bullies
Reform = misogynistic Trump lovers and Farage makes my skin crawl
Lib Deb = should be for the middle but seem more useless and socialist than Labour
Green=taken over by women haters and are in complete la la land

Who on earth do we vote for?!

Shame on anyone who chooses to bring children into the world they can't afford to support. These people are the problem not the tax policy.

I’ve voted Labour for the past 10 years or so. Keir Starmer said this morning that he’s glad that they removed the 2 child cap as that’s what a Labour government is for. Guess I’ve been voting for the wrong party all along. I voted in the hope that they’ll bring grown up politics back to the UK. I certainly didn’t vote for my considerable earnings to be taxed more to give money to those who can’t be bothered to work. Time to find a different party to vote for.

The LibDems would 100% be my party if only they knew what a women was. I just cannot bring myself to vote for Ed ‘women can have a penis’ Davey. Just never. Ever

The only people who benefited by a labour government are people who want to live on benefits and be provided for by the hard working tax payers.

How anyone who works for a living can’t be happy with this government.

I’m not a labour voter, but I agree with this!

Don’t have child you can’t afford. My friend wants to live a certain lifestyle. Having one happy child she can afford enables that. It’s not rocket science. My tax money isn’t here to provide for kids ppl don’t need.

I think the British press is very bad at ever reporting on anything good Labour have done. It's so blatant. Even the BBC have angled non-stories on Labour in order to have a go. I remember the utter disgust over Kier's wife's free clothes, and yet all quiet on the billions worth of money and corruption under the tories. I also think after the big personalities of Boris, that Keir seems to be too quiet now as to what we are used to. A huge proportion of voters seem to equate loud as good.

I am also sick and tired that people have such short memories as to who is to blame for a lot of the troubles in the country, as well as expect them all to be fixed in 18 months. People who complain also seem to lack the ability to have any reason or sense of fair play. .

For example, the recent migrants taxi cost that Labour are stopping in Feb, I've seen people complain that it's all Labour's fault and it should be ended immediately. First of all, I presume it takes time to sort out an alternative paperwork wise and b, they inherited this from the Tories. No praise at all for them finding out this waste of tax payers money and putting an end to it at all. Examples like this can be found a fair bit. Ending wasteful helicopter contracts that Rishi loved etc.

Saying that, they've made some unpopular mistakes with traditional Labour voters which as a party will cost them dear and we've yet to see any real plans for growth, the hardest thing of all. Any party that took over 14 years of tory decline would have a poisoned chalice and to make a difference takes time. Personally, despite doing things steadily in the background for the good and even pandering to the more right leaning views on immigration, people just don't want to see it. They made up their minds already, they want extremism and they've believed the lies that the UK is in this state because of immigration.. and we are going to get Reform. God help us.

Full fact are doing a tracker on Labour.
https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Who do you think will get in?
I can't see the Tories getting back in any time soon
But voters are increasingly getting fed up with Labour
It's a while off yet and things may turn around in the the next couple of years.