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To think my mum has fallen down a conspiracy rabbit hole and I can't get her out

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Coffeesoon · 25/11/2025 17:54

My mum has just sent me a video of Ant Middleton explaining how in 2027 the migrants / boat people who are seeking asylum and have already been made legal, will kick off and attack us all.
He says there will be a civil war, he knows because of army contacts and that we need to prepare.
What am I suppose to say to that?
She fully believes that an army is being formed and is constantly telling me or sending me videos about it.
I love my mum but since covid, which she thought wasn't real, she has been thinking the government is out to get us. We live in an area of increased immigrants and she absolutely hates them.
I've tried to talk to her but shes adamant and its really getting me down.

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Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:04

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:01

Sigh x 3

You’re going lot of sighing, is that because you have no actual coherent arguments? Or is it a sigh of resignation that you have been brainwashed yet again..

Bloozie · 25/11/2025 21:04

LifeSurvior · 25/11/2025 18:26

Having an opinion that illegal immigration might not be beneficial for the country and actually questioning the influx of small boats and the growing illegal money making industry that comes off the back of them is not racist.
It's actually a bit thick to reply in such a way without thinking about any nuance around the subject.
Shouting racist at any and all opinions that differ from your own narrow veiwpoint is actually very lazy and actually dilutes the word itself and its true meaning and the insult/shutdown that you meant it as.

Believing uncontrolled immigration is a bad thing - not racist.

Questioning the influx of small boats - not racist.

Believing it's the No 1 problem facing the country right now, and that there's an army of fighting age men being formed that will take the county by force in 2027 - with the military being aware of this - is racist, but also: fully batshit crazy. Believing every bit of populist nationalist tripe you see on Facebook and YouTube - batshit crazy. Covid denial - batshit crazy.

Fully.

FigTreeInEurope · 25/11/2025 21:05

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 20:22

It's no more bollocks than claiming that these men on their dinghies are asylum seekers, desperately seeking refuge from war and persecution. Or, that the boats are filled with women and children.

When all the evidence proves they're not.

They're filled with fighting age men, aged around 18-24 on average. Some have admitted to having a military background in the countries they have come from, including Afghanistan.

One had posted, when in another country, Snapchats of him surrounded by high-grade weapons. There's been talk that Jihadist camps have been emptying their men onto these boats and sending them to the UK. Some people have been told that some members of the Taliban have hopped aboard a dinghy and made the crossing!

Many of the men do not come from war-torn countries. 700 of them come from Albania-a country that is in the EU and ECHR, and not at war. Pakistan is also a common country of origin for these men. They're not doctors, engineers or scientists crossing the Channel, dropping their documents into the water, are they or do you all think they are?

In areas where these men, and it is primarily men, are housed, there's countless reports of women and children being harassed, followed and even raped by these men. Sure, it's not all of them, but many come from the worst parts of the world where women's rights simply don't exist, especially Western, white women's rights.

Where child marriage is legal and normal. We've had Pakistani men who have crossed the Channel, arranging to meet 14 year olds to rape them and when caught by the parents/community-have been filmed on camera saying, "Oh, I didn't know it was illegal here!"

An Afghan national has just admitted raping a 12 year old. An 8 year old was recently raped by a migrant in Lambeth. A woman was dragged into bushes and raped. Another woman, in Brighton or Bristol, I believe, was dragged onto a beach by three migrants and raped.

I'm not saying they're building an army-but we have no way of knowing who they are or what they really want. They are being placed with limited to no supervision in the heart of our communities without our say so on even consulting us-many times near schools or children's parks.

It all might seem a great big conspiracy theory-and it probably is. The majority of the men are just chancers who know that they're going to get a free ride here-and like the fools we are-we do it.

But how many women and children need to be harassed, followed and raped by these men before any of you give a damn? We know people have also been murdered by them, including Wayne Broadhurst and Rhiannon-Skye White. How many, in your eyes, is too many?

And before you all rush to slam me with "the majority of crime is committed by white men!" Yes, no shit, Sherlock. In a predominantly white country, most of the crime statistics will be filled with white men. "Or white people rape and murder people, too!"

Again, no shit, Sherlock. We have homegrown criminals. Every country does-and we deal with them. What you don't do is import yet more of them. That's like telling someone who has stomach cancer that they're going to implant a tumour in their brain because what's another tumour when they've already got one?

We're allowing men from the most violent parts of the world to come into country, putting them up in hotels and HMO's with minimal supervision and paying through the nose for them and some of them are repaying us by raping our women and children and in some cases, murdering us.

But sure, you all stick your heads in the sand and pretend everything is hunky-dory. Nothing to see here. And use your usual insults whilst you're at it-"racist! far right! fascist!"

Guess what? Most people don't care about being called that anymore. It doesn't work. Call us all gammons, too, whilst you're at it, but maybe, just maybe, instead of convincing yourself that this is all fear-mongering nonsense, you should wake up.

It's not just happening here, either. Look at Ireland. France. Italy. Germany. All over Europe. A twenty-year old Italian girl was raped by three African migrants whilst her boyfriend was forced to watch. That was just recently.

There's been many more instances. England is now the rape capital of Europe, overtaking Sweden. You know-Sweden. A place that was once considered one of the safest, happiest places in Europe. Yeah, that now has no-go zones. So what happened? Did the Swedish men suddenly turn extremely violent and rapey?

But now England has took the crown for being the rape capital of Europe. Bravo, well done us. I can't think what could have happened.

Albania is not in the EU

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 21:06

FigTreeInEurope · 25/11/2025 21:05

Albania is not in the EU

Fine, it isn't, but it became a candidate in 2014 to join.

Also-still not a war-torn country where people are fleeing persecution from.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 25/11/2025 21:08

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"Leftie"

Bingo!

Guess what? You can call us all what you want-we don't care

Thanks. Yes, I'll continue to call blatant racists, racists. Nice of you to own it.

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:09

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:04

You’re going lot of sighing, is that because you have no actual coherent arguments? Or is it a sigh of resignation that you have been brainwashed yet again..

As an older person who has experience as to how the world works, I chose not to respond to idiocy.

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:09

Fairgamer · 25/11/2025 21:01

It's quite sad, it seems it's a gerational thing as my mother is the same. I can't understand the mindset of racism. They fall for fake news like fish in the bailt and just used to confirm their hateful bias, it's a phenomenon.

The fact I loved them but they share those ideas is painful and confusing. I wished I could have a proper but I have say to distance yourself, for your mental health, is the best solution. Arguing logically won't help. Doesn't need to cut if you aren't prepared but a gradual or stronger distance with only practical contact (send birthday wishes, any practical shared issue like finances, etc once some months) is the solution.

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Maybe your mother is looking at you and wondering how she’s raised someone who can’t critically look at what is happening and has been brainwashed into thinking complete lies about immigration. She’s probably chatting to her friends saying “I thought I raised my DD well but turns out she’s been brainwashed and cannot see the problem with immigration and has brought into the idea the words”racism” is a magic word to shut down debate..The Sad thing is she actually believes she’s right” Margaret turns to her and says “I have the same issue with my DD, I’d advise you just go no contact snd cut her out the will”

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:10

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:09

As an older person who has experience as to how the world works, I chose not to respond to idiocy.

Well, you can respond to the well reasoned debate that’s been presented to you then can’t you?

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:11

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 25/11/2025 21:08

"Leftie"

Bingo!

Guess what? You can call us all what you want-we don't care

Thanks. Yes, I'll continue to call blatant racists, racists. Nice of you to own it.

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Lol, took longer than I thought it would for the 'Leftie' 😂

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:12

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:10

Well, you can respond to the well reasoned debate that’s been presented to you then can’t you?

When I see a well reasoned debate, I will respond. Probably.

Redpeach · 25/11/2025 21:12

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 20:22

It's no more bollocks than claiming that these men on their dinghies are asylum seekers, desperately seeking refuge from war and persecution. Or, that the boats are filled with women and children.

When all the evidence proves they're not.

They're filled with fighting age men, aged around 18-24 on average. Some have admitted to having a military background in the countries they have come from, including Afghanistan.

One had posted, when in another country, Snapchats of him surrounded by high-grade weapons. There's been talk that Jihadist camps have been emptying their men onto these boats and sending them to the UK. Some people have been told that some members of the Taliban have hopped aboard a dinghy and made the crossing!

Many of the men do not come from war-torn countries. 700 of them come from Albania-a country that is in the EU and ECHR, and not at war. Pakistan is also a common country of origin for these men. They're not doctors, engineers or scientists crossing the Channel, dropping their documents into the water, are they or do you all think they are?

In areas where these men, and it is primarily men, are housed, there's countless reports of women and children being harassed, followed and even raped by these men. Sure, it's not all of them, but many come from the worst parts of the world where women's rights simply don't exist, especially Western, white women's rights.

Where child marriage is legal and normal. We've had Pakistani men who have crossed the Channel, arranging to meet 14 year olds to rape them and when caught by the parents/community-have been filmed on camera saying, "Oh, I didn't know it was illegal here!"

An Afghan national has just admitted raping a 12 year old. An 8 year old was recently raped by a migrant in Lambeth. A woman was dragged into bushes and raped. Another woman, in Brighton or Bristol, I believe, was dragged onto a beach by three migrants and raped.

I'm not saying they're building an army-but we have no way of knowing who they are or what they really want. They are being placed with limited to no supervision in the heart of our communities without our say so on even consulting us-many times near schools or children's parks.

It all might seem a great big conspiracy theory-and it probably is. The majority of the men are just chancers who know that they're going to get a free ride here-and like the fools we are-we do it.

But how many women and children need to be harassed, followed and raped by these men before any of you give a damn? We know people have also been murdered by them, including Wayne Broadhurst and Rhiannon-Skye White. How many, in your eyes, is too many?

And before you all rush to slam me with "the majority of crime is committed by white men!" Yes, no shit, Sherlock. In a predominantly white country, most of the crime statistics will be filled with white men. "Or white people rape and murder people, too!"

Again, no shit, Sherlock. We have homegrown criminals. Every country does-and we deal with them. What you don't do is import yet more of them. That's like telling someone who has stomach cancer that they're going to implant a tumour in their brain because what's another tumour when they've already got one?

We're allowing men from the most violent parts of the world to come into country, putting them up in hotels and HMO's with minimal supervision and paying through the nose for them and some of them are repaying us by raping our women and children and in some cases, murdering us.

But sure, you all stick your heads in the sand and pretend everything is hunky-dory. Nothing to see here. And use your usual insults whilst you're at it-"racist! far right! fascist!"

Guess what? Most people don't care about being called that anymore. It doesn't work. Call us all gammons, too, whilst you're at it, but maybe, just maybe, instead of convincing yourself that this is all fear-mongering nonsense, you should wake up.

It's not just happening here, either. Look at Ireland. France. Italy. Germany. All over Europe. A twenty-year old Italian girl was raped by three African migrants whilst her boyfriend was forced to watch. That was just recently.

There's been many more instances. England is now the rape capital of Europe, overtaking Sweden. You know-Sweden. A place that was once considered one of the safest, happiest places in Europe. Yeah, that now has no-go zones. So what happened? Did the Swedish men suddenly turn extremely violent and rapey?

But now England has took the crown for being the rape capital of Europe. Bravo, well done us. I can't think what could have happened.

I'm surprised they've got time for any training to fight, with all that raping n stuff

Spookyspaghetti · 25/11/2025 21:12

LifeSurvior · 25/11/2025 18:26

Having an opinion that illegal immigration might not be beneficial for the country and actually questioning the influx of small boats and the growing illegal money making industry that comes off the back of them is not racist.
It's actually a bit thick to reply in such a way without thinking about any nuance around the subject.
Shouting racist at any and all opinions that differ from your own narrow veiwpoint is actually very lazy and actually dilutes the word itself and its true meaning and the insult/shutdown that you meant it as.

Migrants aren’t preparing to start a war against the British army though are they. Why would would someone want mostly poor, less educated people to think that? What agenda does it serve? Is it maybe that if all the working poor are busy fighting each other like rats in a barrel then the billionaires can keep taking the tax breaks and sucking all the wealth out of our pockets?!

Timelineuk · 25/11/2025 21:13

Coffeesoon · 25/11/2025 17:54

My mum has just sent me a video of Ant Middleton explaining how in 2027 the migrants / boat people who are seeking asylum and have already been made legal, will kick off and attack us all.
He says there will be a civil war, he knows because of army contacts and that we need to prepare.
What am I suppose to say to that?
She fully believes that an army is being formed and is constantly telling me or sending me videos about it.
I love my mum but since covid, which she thought wasn't real, she has been thinking the government is out to get us. We live in an area of increased immigrants and she absolutely hates them.
I've tried to talk to her but shes adamant and its really getting me down.

This isn’t just conspiracies , it’s downright dangerous, and propaganda and it’s been done over and over before in history in different ways, and it has fooled even the most intelligent, and nothing to do with mental ill was as some poster have suggested.

Rugbymom67 · 25/11/2025 21:13

Howtorattatwangyourpanda · 25/11/2025 20:55

A quick Google shows as many scientific papers showing that this isn’t true. So again, a split as to what information you believe vs that you don’t. Either way, given the utter crap that comes from her mouth and who she chooses to obtain information from, I tend to err on the side of ‘that’s not quite reality’.
Who’s right or wrong only time will tell… but at least my life will be filled with a bit more joy and compassion.

Yes fair enough. It certainly sounds like it wouldn’t be true.

But no it really was. So much so that they still study it as a basis for other studies and are now looking at common cold interactions.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-75632-6
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14034948241253690

I could post endless articles.

And even they don’t want to really believe it 😂

Results:
We found, compared with never smokers, an increased risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection for former smokers (odds ratio (OR)=1.07, 95% confidence interval (CI)=1.01–1.13), but a reduced risk for current smokers (OR=0.85, 95% CI=0.79–0.92), after adjusting for several relevant covariates. However, we discerned a possible explanation of the smoker’s paradox since we observed that current smokers were more likely to be non-responders to the COVID-19 questions and, more importantly, these non-responders were more likely to have other established risk factors for SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Conclusions:
There is insufficient evidence to suggest that smoking protects against SARS-CoV-2 infection. According to the adapted Bradford Hill’s criteria, we observed a high inconsistency between study results, a high possibility for residual confounding and no clear evidence for biological plausibility. Future studies should include linkage with the confirmed testing results from national healthcare registries to mitigate avoidable bias.

I am only a lay person and a smoker hence I looked at this. I don’t understand how they can’t see how it’s happening. It’s quite simple. Smokers have more ace2 (the binding site for Covid) but smokers sites are more bound to tobacco pollution. Quite obvious to me tbh.

Anyway wasn’t trying to make a jab but just thought interesting to point out that one is quite well known and researched.

Systematic review and meta analysis of cross immunity and the smokers paradox in COVID19 - Scientific Reports

COVID-19 pandemic, caused by the novel SARS-CoV-2 virus, has raised significant interest in understanding potential cross-immunity mechanisms. Recent evidence suggests that T-cells associated with common cold coronaviruses (229E, NL63, OC43, HKU1) may...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-75632-6?error=cookies_not_supported&code=6722f424-0392-4c98-926d-2aa5cfcbc065

Timeforabitofpeace · 25/11/2025 21:14

I have a relative who believes all this bollocks. Two, in fact. I give them a wide berth these days. There’s no dissuading people who believe this stuff.

Bloozie · 25/11/2025 21:14

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 20:22

It's no more bollocks than claiming that these men on their dinghies are asylum seekers, desperately seeking refuge from war and persecution. Or, that the boats are filled with women and children.

When all the evidence proves they're not.

They're filled with fighting age men, aged around 18-24 on average. Some have admitted to having a military background in the countries they have come from, including Afghanistan.

One had posted, when in another country, Snapchats of him surrounded by high-grade weapons. There's been talk that Jihadist camps have been emptying their men onto these boats and sending them to the UK. Some people have been told that some members of the Taliban have hopped aboard a dinghy and made the crossing!

Many of the men do not come from war-torn countries. 700 of them come from Albania-a country that is in the EU and ECHR, and not at war. Pakistan is also a common country of origin for these men. They're not doctors, engineers or scientists crossing the Channel, dropping their documents into the water, are they or do you all think they are?

In areas where these men, and it is primarily men, are housed, there's countless reports of women and children being harassed, followed and even raped by these men. Sure, it's not all of them, but many come from the worst parts of the world where women's rights simply don't exist, especially Western, white women's rights.

Where child marriage is legal and normal. We've had Pakistani men who have crossed the Channel, arranging to meet 14 year olds to rape them and when caught by the parents/community-have been filmed on camera saying, "Oh, I didn't know it was illegal here!"

An Afghan national has just admitted raping a 12 year old. An 8 year old was recently raped by a migrant in Lambeth. A woman was dragged into bushes and raped. Another woman, in Brighton or Bristol, I believe, was dragged onto a beach by three migrants and raped.

I'm not saying they're building an army-but we have no way of knowing who they are or what they really want. They are being placed with limited to no supervision in the heart of our communities without our say so on even consulting us-many times near schools or children's parks.

It all might seem a great big conspiracy theory-and it probably is. The majority of the men are just chancers who know that they're going to get a free ride here-and like the fools we are-we do it.

But how many women and children need to be harassed, followed and raped by these men before any of you give a damn? We know people have also been murdered by them, including Wayne Broadhurst and Rhiannon-Skye White. How many, in your eyes, is too many?

And before you all rush to slam me with "the majority of crime is committed by white men!" Yes, no shit, Sherlock. In a predominantly white country, most of the crime statistics will be filled with white men. "Or white people rape and murder people, too!"

Again, no shit, Sherlock. We have homegrown criminals. Every country does-and we deal with them. What you don't do is import yet more of them. That's like telling someone who has stomach cancer that they're going to implant a tumour in their brain because what's another tumour when they've already got one?

We're allowing men from the most violent parts of the world to come into country, putting them up in hotels and HMO's with minimal supervision and paying through the nose for them and some of them are repaying us by raping our women and children and in some cases, murdering us.

But sure, you all stick your heads in the sand and pretend everything is hunky-dory. Nothing to see here. And use your usual insults whilst you're at it-"racist! far right! fascist!"

Guess what? Most people don't care about being called that anymore. It doesn't work. Call us all gammons, too, whilst you're at it, but maybe, just maybe, instead of convincing yourself that this is all fear-mongering nonsense, you should wake up.

It's not just happening here, either. Look at Ireland. France. Italy. Germany. All over Europe. A twenty-year old Italian girl was raped by three African migrants whilst her boyfriend was forced to watch. That was just recently.

There's been many more instances. England is now the rape capital of Europe, overtaking Sweden. You know-Sweden. A place that was once considered one of the safest, happiest places in Europe. Yeah, that now has no-go zones. So what happened? Did the Swedish men suddenly turn extremely violent and rapey?

But now England has took the crown for being the rape capital of Europe. Bravo, well done us. I can't think what could have happened.

This is pure, scaremongering tripe. Cherry picking data outside of its context. We have higher incidents of rape because we have one of the broadest definitions of rape in the world and women speak up. This article also explains what happened in Sweden - they broadened the definition of rape, and lo, the raping increased. https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

I cannot be arsed to fact-check your whole post, but you need to know that YOU are the problem. You, and people like you.

Spreading misinformation and disinformation without putting any effort into checking the credibility of your sources and highlighting individual criminal acts and using them to tar a whole population will do FAR more harm to this country, than anyone arriving in a small boat.

You're filling the world with hate, creating division and amplifying lies. Bravo, well done you.

Timelineuk · 25/11/2025 21:14

Bookaholic73 · 25/11/2025 17:58

Does she have a history of mental illness?

Did all the Nazis and and fascists in history have mental illness? This isn’t about conspiracies and mental illness, it’s propaganda and it is currently being pushed by the media, and MP’s.

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:14

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:12

When I see a well reasoned debate, I will respond. Probably.

Well you’ve been presented with one a few times, it appears you probably don’t understand your own position well enough to be able to debate it. Have you got a Palestinian flag and one of those black and white scarf things

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:16

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:14

Well you’ve been presented with one a few times, it appears you probably don’t understand your own position well enough to be able to debate it. Have you got a Palestinian flag and one of those black and white scarf things

No I haven't and your post just cements again that you have no idea what a well reasoned debate is.

FigTreeInEurope · 25/11/2025 21:16

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 21:06

Fine, it isn't, but it became a candidate in 2014 to join.

Also-still not a war-torn country where people are fleeing persecution from.

I mean, I didn't disagree with all the other stuff you said..

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 21:17

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:04

You’re going lot of sighing, is that because you have no actual coherent arguments? Or is it a sigh of resignation that you have been brainwashed yet again..

I think it's clear that many on this thread are utterly refusing to see what is happening in this country and would rather dismiss it as nonsense, maybe because it disturbs their comfort.

It's obvious that if you just dismiss people's concerns that they're going to turn to more extreme views.

Everyone in this country needs to have a real, honest conversation about this issue and not dismiss every concern as "racist, bigoted shite," just because they don't like it.

Because there's a lot of people, like it or not, who live in areas where these men have been placed-some actually outnumber the residents-I think somewhere in Braintree that was the case-where they no longer feel safe. Everyone on this thread can dismiss them-and say they're mean nasty bigots for not opening their arms and welcoming these men into their communities-but let's all be honest here-

Would you be happy if 600+ unvetted men of unknown origin landed in your community? Be honest.

That doesn't mean every single man/person that has crossed the channel is a danger, but if I handed everyone a bowl of skittles but before you took a handful, I said, "One percent of them are poisoned," would you still take them?

Staringintothevoid616 · 25/11/2025 21:17

Happyjoe · 25/11/2025 21:16

No I haven't and your post just cements again that you have no idea what a well reasoned debate is.

lol, it’s clear that you have been, your posts are simply full of petulant foot stamping with zero intellectual content.

Spookyspaghetti · 25/11/2025 21:17

And let’s not forget that these conspiracy peddling content creators are making a lot of money out of advertising. Check if their accounts are monetised, it they just wanted to spread the word about a serious issue they wouldn’t make their followers watch a 30 second ad for Just Eat half way through!!!

GarlicHound · 25/11/2025 21:18

England has took the crown for being the rape capital of Europe. Bravo, well done us. @PoppyRoseBucky

I'm a "somewhere in the middle" but also a data purist, so couldn't let this pass.

As should be obvious and the original sources stressed:

"Countries with stronger protections for women use a broader definition of rape, meaning the number of offences can appear higher than in nations with narrower interpretations.

"For example, in 2018, Sweden altered its definition of rape to make it sexual activity without consent, rather than requiring proof of force or threats. The change sparked a sharp rise in the number of rape convictions, according to the country's National Council on Crime Prevention. In England and Wales, the Sexual Offences Act 2003 also sets out a consent-based legal definition of rape."

More background here: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 21:20

Bloozie · 25/11/2025 21:14

This is pure, scaremongering tripe. Cherry picking data outside of its context. We have higher incidents of rape because we have one of the broadest definitions of rape in the world and women speak up. This article also explains what happened in Sweden - they broadened the definition of rape, and lo, the raping increased. https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

I cannot be arsed to fact-check your whole post, but you need to know that YOU are the problem. You, and people like you.

Spreading misinformation and disinformation without putting any effort into checking the credibility of your sources and highlighting individual criminal acts and using them to tar a whole population will do FAR more harm to this country, than anyone arriving in a small boat.

You're filling the world with hate, creating division and amplifying lies. Bravo, well done you.

Oh, so it's the definition of rape that's incorrect and that is why England has now taken the crown for rape capital of Europe!

Good to know. Keep telling yourself that.

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