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Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

294 replies

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

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Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 11:08

TheNuthatch · 25/11/2025 10:48

The markets reacted to her crying. They would also have reacted if a male chancellor had cried in the commons, whilst sitting next to the PM, on live TV, at a pivotal moment.
This impacts all of us, and she shouldn't be given a free pass simply because she is female. That would be sexist.

Why not, you don't get many free passes as a female!

PropertyD · 25/11/2025 11:08

She was a hot mess during her crying presumably because she is realising that she is crap at her role and it all got too much.

She looked as though she was about to collapse and should have excused herself. Personal reason my bottom. It all got too much for her and Starmer was so engrossed with his own yapping he didn’t even notice!

Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 11:10

PropertyD · 25/11/2025 11:08

She was a hot mess during her crying presumably because she is realising that she is crap at her role and it all got too much.

She looked as though she was about to collapse and should have excused herself. Personal reason my bottom. It all got too much for her and Starmer was so engrossed with his own yapping he didn’t even notice!

She did not.

TheNuthatch · 25/11/2025 11:11

Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 11:08

Why not, you don't get many free passes as a female!

Seriously?

You're right that women don't get many free passes. Which is why being the first female chancellor, and also being the first chancellor to cry in the house when under pressure is not a great combo.

noworklifebalance · 25/11/2025 11:12

MightyDandelionEsq · 25/11/2025 09:53

Quite. To add to your list, Commie Corbyn and Call me Dave.

Shes called Rach from accounts because she lied on her cv and is grossly under qualified.

Im really tired of women using misogyny as a catch all for any criticism.

The problem it really undermines the fight against misogyny.

The bare facts are that her fiscal policies have impacted every level of society in a negative way and damaged growth.
The criticism is valid.

Starmer, Sunak, Johnson, Blair, Brown, Major, Prescott and more have all been reduced down to their looks, demeanor, personality etc.

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 11:13

PropertyD · 25/11/2025 11:08

She was a hot mess during her crying presumably because she is realising that she is crap at her role and it all got too much.

She looked as though she was about to collapse and should have excused herself. Personal reason my bottom. It all got too much for her and Starmer was so engrossed with his own yapping he didn’t even notice!

If ONLY she realised that and spared us all the effects of her incompetence! Alas…!

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/11/2025 11:15

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:15

I agree with @APatternGrammar

By all means judge her results against your values. Cast your vote accordingly.

But the misogyny started the instant she moved into Downing Street, if not before. ‘Rachel from Accounts’ got a lot of traction on this very forum, which one would have hoped valued the dignity of even women one disagreed with. Her minor political slip ups were blown out of proportion.

Do the posters so rabid towards this Labour team simply have a nonpartisan wish to highlight political incompetence? Not judging by their tolerance of worse from the previous government. That adorable scamp Boris took 4 days off at the height of the Covid crisis. His government’s lack of clear thinking has now been shown to have caused an avoidable excess of 23,000 deaths.

Quite.

Of course there’s a large helping of misogyny involved.

MikeRafone · 25/11/2025 11:17

What U turns has she done?

Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 11:17

TheNuthatch · 25/11/2025 11:11

Seriously?

You're right that women don't get many free passes. Which is why being the first female chancellor, and also being the first chancellor to cry in the house when under pressure is not a great combo.

Yes but society can't have it both ways, the press gassed on about her crying, correspondingly has articles on the damaging manosphere culture and violence towards women especially if committed by an asylum seeker and how women need protection from this but then feeds the misogyny with the Rachel from Accounts stuff.

dottiehens · 25/11/2025 11:47

Well this exactly what the people like them do. They either use their gender or race to get away with their incompetence. I expect Mandani to be saying people are racist towards him when he starts his cock ups just like Sadiq Khan in London. In the meantime their agenda goes through.

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 11:52

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 11:05

Markets didn’t think so.

Do you follow markets? lets stop with the re writing of history and look at what happened?
Gilts went up slightly, they then dropped back to where they were when realised she was staying in post, as they believe her when she says she will not break her fiscal rules on borrowing.

Talking of markets, FTSE was 8300 when Labour took office, they are now 9500.

I ve done very well since she has been in office, as has everyone else who has an equities based pension.

Differentforgirls · 25/11/2025 11:56

NewCushions · 25/11/2025 10:46

What's most astonishing to me is that people can even attempt to say that female politicians don't face the most insane amount of misogynist, sexist bullshit.

We all KNOW that Boris and is his cronies were booze head party fuckers, including throughout Covid. But has any publicatoin ever posted a photo implying that makes him a lush like they did when Angela Raynor dared to be enjoying a large glass of wine in her free time? no no, it's all "Beers down the pub, one of the lads" bullshit for Boris and Rishi and all the rest, from a man who hasn't entered a pub "with the lads" in his life.

Have we ever had two male leaders at a meeting where the headlies compared their bodies as we did with Teresa May and Nicola whats-her-face in Scotland? No, we certainly have not.

Did anyone ever comment on what any of our female prime ministers' husbands wore? God no. But clearly that's not the same for every single wife of a PM, ever.

"what's her face" is pretty misognistic.

NewCushions · 25/11/2025 12:05

Differentforgirls · 25/11/2025 11:56

"what's her face" is pretty misognistic.

I can see how you think that. except I genuinely forgot her name for a minute there and I absolutely refer to "whats-his-face" on a regular basis - I'm not great at names and this is x100 for people in the public eye. It's endlessly entertaining to DH! Grin

Differentforgirls · 25/11/2025 12:07

NewCushions · 25/11/2025 12:05

I can see how you think that. except I genuinely forgot her name for a minute there and I absolutely refer to "whats-his-face" on a regular basis - I'm not great at names and this is x100 for people in the public eye. It's endlessly entertaining to DH! Grin

Sturgeon - book mark this 😂

Frenchues · 25/11/2025 12:10

I think Boris was a twat. Rishi Sunak is perfectly decent and honourable.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 25/11/2025 12:14

Anyone who doesn't agree/says something against a female, even another female is automatically labelled a misogynist these days 🙄

NewCushions · 25/11/2025 12:15

Differentforgirls · 25/11/2025 12:07

Sturgeon - book mark this 😂

I'm watching Celebrity Masterchef currently. Honestly, it's ridiculous. I can't discuss it with anyone as I've got not a single name right. I regularly forget the hosts' names too! As I'm tying, I know it's Grace and..... it will come to me in about 3 minutes...! So for now it's Grace and whats-his-face - the aussie guy.... Grin

Kimura · 25/11/2025 12:17

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 10:04

Yes this is true but why the focus on 2/3 years at HBoS and not her 6 years at the Bank of England?

Jeremy Hunt broke anti money laundering rules, a far more serious thing, yet no one makes any reference to that, it was all "an admin error"

Because she fibbed about the 2/3 years at HBOS. The joke is a specific reference to the fib she told about her job at HBOS.

Jeremy Hunt broke anti money laundering rules, a far more serious thing, yet no one makes any reference to that, it was all "an admin error"

I mean, newsreaders and presenters 'accidentally' call him Jeremy C**t on TV and radio fairly often. And he was slated all over the place at the time.

Differentforgirls · 25/11/2025 12:24

NewCushions · 25/11/2025 12:15

I'm watching Celebrity Masterchef currently. Honestly, it's ridiculous. I can't discuss it with anyone as I've got not a single name right. I regularly forget the hosts' names too! As I'm tying, I know it's Grace and..... it will come to me in about 3 minutes...! So for now it's Grace and whats-his-face - the aussie guy.... Grin

I understand. I'm the same. I'm a nightmare to watch telly with as I have to google faces I recognise to see what they were in before!

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 12:26

Kimura · 25/11/2025 12:17

Because she fibbed about the 2/3 years at HBOS. The joke is a specific reference to the fib she told about her job at HBOS.

Jeremy Hunt broke anti money laundering rules, a far more serious thing, yet no one makes any reference to that, it was all "an admin error"

I mean, newsreaders and presenters 'accidentally' call him Jeremy C**t on TV and radio fairly often. And he was slated all over the place at the time.

Whats the connection between her linkdin profile, being involved in complaints at HBOS and "Rachel from Accounts?"

She has never worked in Accounts.

I don't recall Hunt being called "Jerry from the bookshop" he had a publishing company.

Hunt Cxxt they rhyme and a profuse apology followed, as far as i know, it happened once or twice, not fairly often.

Frenchues · 25/11/2025 12:40

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 12:26

Whats the connection between her linkdin profile, being involved in complaints at HBOS and "Rachel from Accounts?"

She has never worked in Accounts.

I don't recall Hunt being called "Jerry from the bookshop" he had a publishing company.

Hunt Cxxt they rhyme and a profuse apology followed, as far as i know, it happened once or twice, not fairly often.

Edited

I think she changed her role from Economist there to just retail banking

Kimura · 25/11/2025 12:44

Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 10:42

There's nothing wrong with crying, you are being sexist implying that it's weak/feeble as associated with women more than men.

There is absolutely something wrong with crying when you're supposed to be reassuring the nation that you have the mettle to steer their economy.

NanFlanders · 25/11/2025 12:52

With a PPE degree from Oxford, a Master’s in Economics from the LSE, and six years as an economist at the Bank of England, Reeves is hardly underqualified - in fact she's better qualified than most of her male predecessors. I'm not the biggest fan of the government, but by concentrating on infrastructure (see Oxford-Cambridge Growth corridor, acceleration of house-building), education, and industrial strategy she has managed to combine broadly progressive policies (freezing rail fares and prescription charges during cost of living crunch, increasing green investment), with fiscal prudence (no reckless borrowing or unfunded tax cuts). As the markets have responded broadly positively in terms of investment and stabilisation of the bond markets, I do think the term 'Rachel for accounts' is a very gendered way of undermining her technical abilities.

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 12:57

NanFlanders · 25/11/2025 12:52

With a PPE degree from Oxford, a Master’s in Economics from the LSE, and six years as an economist at the Bank of England, Reeves is hardly underqualified - in fact she's better qualified than most of her male predecessors. I'm not the biggest fan of the government, but by concentrating on infrastructure (see Oxford-Cambridge Growth corridor, acceleration of house-building), education, and industrial strategy she has managed to combine broadly progressive policies (freezing rail fares and prescription charges during cost of living crunch, increasing green investment), with fiscal prudence (no reckless borrowing or unfunded tax cuts). As the markets have responded broadly positively in terms of investment and stabilisation of the bond markets, I do think the term 'Rachel for accounts' is a very gendered way of undermining her technical abilities.

100% this^

Despite all the howls of "We are heading for the IMF" (ever since july 2024!) it hasn't happened, UK credit rating still good, gilts stabilising, growth better than we have had in recent years.

A long way from the IMF

LeftFooter · 25/11/2025 12:57

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/11/2025 08:20

The Rachel from Accounts thing is because she lied on her CV. Then she plagiarised her book. Lied about her chess successes. Stupid, pointless lies to paint a picture of someone she no doubt wishes she was but isn’t. Not because she’s a woman but because she’s incompetent.

She made a massive deal about being the first female chancellor when her success in getting the job should have spoken for itself. We’ve had 3 female prime ministers for gods sake.

As a woman I’m offended by her calling misogyny when it turned out she’s terrible at her job.

I agree 100%.