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Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

294 replies

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

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Sneezo · 25/11/2025 08:27

I think there is some misogyny, alongside lots of reasonable criticism. I also suspect that the papers have leapt on her mentioning it because they know how badly it will go down. It helps nobody to accept the misogyny just because you think she’s doing a bad job. She’s not doing a bad job because she’s a woman.

MincePudding · 25/11/2025 08:29

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 08:15

I agree with @APatternGrammar

By all means judge her results against your values. Cast your vote accordingly.

But the misogyny started the instant she moved into Downing Street, if not before. ‘Rachel from Accounts’ got a lot of traction on this very forum, which one would have hoped valued the dignity of even women one disagreed with. Her minor political slip ups were blown out of proportion.

Do the posters so rabid towards this Labour team simply have a nonpartisan wish to highlight political incompetence? Not judging by their tolerance of worse from the previous government. That adorable scamp Boris took 4 days off at the height of the Covid crisis. His government’s lack of clear thinking has now been shown to have caused an avoidable excess of 23,000 deaths.

The Boris comparison is interesting.

You only have to Google "Boris Funny Moments" to see endless reels of ziplines, putting umbrellas up badly and rambling media quotes.

Google ""Rachel Reeves funny moments" and it's all nasty parodies and videos of her crying.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 25/11/2025 08:30

The two things can be true at once.
She's made some terrible decisions.
And the misogynist comments started the minute she became chancellor.
Rachel from accounts is so trivialising, both to her and to any woman who works "in accounts".

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:31

I’m not being provocative but I don’t even see what she’s done that’s terrible.

and yes Rachel from accounts is highly misogynistic

iSage · 25/11/2025 08:32

I've lost track of her plans because they keep changing.

The 'Rachel from accounts' stuff was because she lied, or at least exaggerated, various parts of her career history - indicating she was an 'economist' at a bank when she'd actually been a retail complaints manager, and that she'd worked for the Bank of England for longer than she had. She should have been honest about her background. If she'd bigged up her CV to that extent for a corporate role and been found out, she'd be on a disciplinary.

EasternStandard · 25/11/2025 08:32

Swiftasthewind · 25/11/2025 08:26

It’s absolutely misogyny. And while I cannot prove that with any statistical data, as a lifelong Labour supporter, I must ascribe some sort of accusatory pejorative towards those who criticise people on my side, in the hopes that it distracts from any failings that they might have. Not that I believe she has any failings whatsoever, she’s doing an awesome job undoing all the machinations from those evil Tories!

It’s a shame really that she is not a person of colour, as a racism accusation can be so much more powerful.

Absolutely ; although some upset at this probably aimed it at other female politicians just not Labour ones.

TofuEater · 25/11/2025 08:33

See also the way Diane Abbott is discussed in the media (with the double whammy of racism)

mutinyonthetwix · 25/11/2025 08:36

I've no doubt she has been on the business end of a good deal of misogyny. It's endemic in Westminster.

At the same time her tenure has been pretty uniformly disastrous and it's unfortunate that the legacy of the first female Chancellor which Labour seems to be trumpeting again, looks rather likely to be an unfortunate one.

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:37

iSage · 25/11/2025 08:32

I've lost track of her plans because they keep changing.

The 'Rachel from accounts' stuff was because she lied, or at least exaggerated, various parts of her career history - indicating she was an 'economist' at a bank when she'd actually been a retail complaints manager, and that she'd worked for the Bank of England for longer than she had. She should have been honest about her background. If she'd bigged up her CV to that extent for a corporate role and been found out, she'd be on a disciplinary.

Well that was linked in, which isn’t a document of truth telling or DBs. My own is inaccurate because of the way it’s structured, it doesn’t allow for explanations such as merger, promotion or company changing name. For for example mine says I worked for x for 9 years when in fact I was contracted there for 12 months, working at companies that had been swallowed up by acquisition by them for the first 8.

I mean, it’s not as bad as awarding corrupt contracts or partying during Covid is it?

PropertyD · 25/11/2025 08:37

AnneLovesGilbert · 25/11/2025 08:20

The Rachel from Accounts thing is because she lied on her CV. Then she plagiarised her book. Lied about her chess successes. Stupid, pointless lies to paint a picture of someone she no doubt wishes she was but isn’t. Not because she’s a woman but because she’s incompetent.

She made a massive deal about being the first female chancellor when her success in getting the job should have spoken for itself. We’ve had 3 female prime ministers for gods sake.

As a woman I’m offended by her calling misogyny when it turned out she’s terrible at her job.

Quite agree. She must be on the ropes now and trying to deflect. She is completely useless. Couldn’t even get the welfare bill down and crying does her no good. Looks weak and feeble. She was literally shaking and is clearly in the wrong role.

Luckyingame · 25/11/2025 08:38

We'll see each other tomorrow evening, after "budget hell".
😁

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:42

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:31

I’m not being provocative but I don’t even see what she’s done that’s terrible.

and yes Rachel from accounts is highly misogynistic

You haven't noticed the indecision and u-turns? You haven't noticed the lack of growth that Labour promised? You haven't noticed the lack of business confidence? You haven't noticed the problems in the jobs market? You didn't notice the very random press conference she did in which she blamed everything on everyone (from the Tory's to Donald Trump) to pave the way for breaking her election promises and then changed her mind about breaking her election promises?

This is why I hate politics. Some people are so firmly entrenched in being Labour or Tory, they just cannot see what's in front of them.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:42

I see it as fair.

The display of tears on the Commons was not exactly professional, it did not do any women in high position jobs a service.

She can't pick and choose.

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:43

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:42

I see it as fair.

The display of tears on the Commons was not exactly professional, it did not do any women in high position jobs a service.

She can't pick and choose.

And here we have it. Exhibit number 1 of how misogyny is rife and not just amongst men.

AliceMaforethought · 25/11/2025 08:45

Misogyny? Pull the other one. The woman's a complete and utter incompetent.

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:45

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:42

You haven't noticed the indecision and u-turns? You haven't noticed the lack of growth that Labour promised? You haven't noticed the lack of business confidence? You haven't noticed the problems in the jobs market? You didn't notice the very random press conference she did in which she blamed everything on everyone (from the Tory's to Donald Trump) to pave the way for breaking her election promises and then changed her mind about breaking her election promises?

This is why I hate politics. Some people are so firmly entrenched in being Labour or Tory, they just cannot see what's in front of them.

most of your comment isn’t unique to the UK, new to the labour government or controllable.

the biggest mistake she’s making, which is straight out of the Tory playbook, is leaking extreme rumours beforehand to make her actual budget look better than the public are prepared for. It’s childish and patronising.

however, how this is criticism that can only be levelled at RR is beyond me

AliceMaforethought · 25/11/2025 08:46

Goldenbear · 25/11/2025 08:05

Yes, definitely, supercharged by the media, what woman would go into politics now!

You really think that her sex is why people don't like her?

AutumnLeavesandKnittedJumpers · 25/11/2025 08:46

No because she’s right. We’ve had many an incompetent chancellor. Most of them were men and not criticised in the way she has been.

iSage · 25/11/2025 08:47

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:37

Well that was linked in, which isn’t a document of truth telling or DBs. My own is inaccurate because of the way it’s structured, it doesn’t allow for explanations such as merger, promotion or company changing name. For for example mine says I worked for x for 9 years when in fact I was contracted there for 12 months, working at companies that had been swallowed up by acquisition by them for the first 8.

I mean, it’s not as bad as awarding corrupt contracts or partying during Covid is it?

Linked in allows you to state your job title and how long you worked for an organisation. Reeves' wasn't inaccurate due to mergers or contract changes, it was inaccurate because she wanted to make herself sound more of an economic expert than she was.

The Covid antics of the Tory clowns were bad, yes, and they rightfully lost the election after it all came out.

senua · 25/11/2025 08:47

Sorry, can someone explain what is misogynistic about it? Politician's get called all sorts (TwoTier Keir, FreeGear Keir, NeverHere Keir, etc) so why is RR's nickname so misogynistic. I don't doubt there is misogyny but I don't understand why this is called into question.

I don't like the moniker because it's disrespectful to those of us in accounts, 99% of whom could probably do a better job than her.

noworklifebalance · 25/11/2025 08:47

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:17

Remember the mini-budget of 2022? 3 years on, we still talk about that and the disaster it was. At the time there was a female PM and a male Chancellor. Who do we/the media blame? The PM.

Now fast forward to current day where the government has made a complete mess of their PR with u-turn after u-turn and some very odd and unpopular economic decisions. We have a male PM and a female Chancellor. Who do we blame? The Chancellor.

Do you see a pattern...?

This irks me no-end! Kwarteng is not mentioned but Reeves always is and Truss is blamed but not Starmer? Gives me the rage.

However, I disagree with PPs re: Rachel from Accounta is misogynistic. It’s not to do with diminishing her role as Chancellor but to highlight her lies about her past employment.

Starmer is Two-tier Kier.
Wasn’t Phil Hammond “Spreadsheets Phil”? I am sure there are others.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 08:49

HoskinsChoice · 25/11/2025 08:43

And here we have it. Exhibit number 1 of how misogyny is rife and not just amongst men.

Is it right to cry in a high powered place of work, or any place of work, in full display and to deflect by claiming misogyny?

Sure.

Boomer55 · 25/11/2025 08:49

She’s hopeless as a Chancellor and would be if she was a man.

Bit pathetic of her to pull the old “sexism” card. 🙄

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 08:49

And crying honestly. Who cares about crying? Men go in there everyday and shout and jeer at each other like year 10s circling a fight.

for me I think it’s just the rise of normal people into government with normal emotions who didn’t has the privilege of getting it beaten out of them through the fagging system.

It’s a stressful, exhausting job and any normal person would be vulnerable to emotional however they display it. Starmer clenches up, she cried once. What’s so bad about emotion? Grow up.

Kitte321 · 25/11/2025 08:50

It’s nothing to do with being a woman for the vast majority of critics and everything to do with the fact her ideas are shit.

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