Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

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I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

People in important roles should have the intelligence not to lie on their CV/ Linkedin profiles as they will be found out.

I'm starting to think many posters here aren't aware of how that name for her developed.

I think she is not up to the job, but there is no doubt about the misogyny that has been aimed at her. Also Angela Rayner. Those photos of her on holiday were pulled to bits on MN.

Some posters on MN despise RR so much they will never be able to bring themselves to recognise she has experienced misogyny.

Yes this. All these actuations of U turns etc, we know nothing yet. She's been criticised for things she hasn't done. That will stick even if the budget is a dream come true. No one's ever done that to a man.

Genuinely, why is that misogynistic?

It's an alternative framing of her work record after she was found to be telling porkies about her role.

How is it worse than free-gear Keir or similar rude nicknames?

Previous chancellors:
Flash Gordon
Dishy Rishi
Squiffy (Asquith)

And PMs
Sunny Jim
Grocer Heath
The grocer's daughter
Attilla the hen
The gray man
Bliar
Theresa Maybe
The clown prince (bozza)

If in doubt, blame men. That is the way. I don't agree with it, but that's how it's done these days.

Ironically some commenting on misogyny against Reeves have no problem making rascist slurs against Kemi Badenoch.

There is a huge amount of misogyny around her.

"Rachel from accounts" is hugely sexist, and would not be used for a man.

When the last disastrous budget took place, it was Liz Truss' fault, not the chancellor. And now this is about to happen it will be Rachel Reeve's fault, not the PM.

I hate what Rachel Reeves and the Labour Gov have done to my family as we are thousands of pounds down a month, but even I can see that how she is treated, is predominantly down to being a woman, despite thinking she is a terrible and incompetent person.

She was a BOE economist for 6 years, confirmed by the BoE and was thanked for her contribution in a BoE speech in 2001.

You re just making things up and reporting stuff that isn't true.

You are right. Sunak was criticised for doing the same thing. It isn't new.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/25/lindsay-hoyle-berates-rishi-sunak-leaking-budget-details

Why can't you see the context of the crying episode?

She's the Chancellor, in charge of the nation'd finances, she cries in the commons during a time welfare reforms are said to be needed to balance the books but are not acceptable to some backbenchers. She cries in front of the world's media. It sends a message about the state of the economy and the state of the government. There are consequences for the whole country.

It might have been personal, of course, but she should have recognised how awful the timing was.

Had she cried in different circumstances, at a funeral, or Remembrance Sunday then that's again different.

So yes, anyone with half a brain would recognise it.

Urgh I know it wasn’t in the Commons but no one accused Matt Hancock of doing the entire male sex a disservice when he cried over the Covid vaccines.

This briefing is likely to being on the ropes. The same as Starmer doing I will be leader article after the Streeting briefing mistake. Feeling under strain from potential ousting.

The threat to oust is coming from their own colleagues though. We don’t need to see all this.

That is a really serious accusation. Do you have evidence to back this up? Presumably you reported those racist slurs to MNHQ?

Eta: I am assuming you mean posters on this thread. If you don't mean posters on this thread, then apologies for getting the wrong end of the stick.

Yes good point, of course women in their 50s have absolutely no physiological reason to cry do they.....

& why is it even relevant?

Of course i reported it, plus called it out. So no need for passive aggressive remark

She didn't because it never happened.

Sorry but I think you are wrong.
24 years ago she would have been straight out of uni.
Her degrees are in economics, but that doesn't mean she was working as an 'economist' as such at the B of E.
I have read elsewhere that her role was very much back of house, not front of house as an economist. Her subsequent roles were far lower than an 'economist' and she came under scrutiny for fraudulent expenses in one of those jobs.

It wasn’t a cv though was it?

No need for the personal attack. I was genuinely asking a question.

Was Margaret Thatcher also a victim of misogyny?

Theresa May, Lynn Truss and Rachael Reeves were all incompetent and made blunders-maybe they were victims of that.

All the recent changing of male Conservative prime ministers when they were in power-all because they had blundered or angered the party-they too were victims of their own making.

If they had all been women, would you say they had been victims of misogyny too?

All the laughing at David "Mastermind" Lammy, the sneering at Keir "Son of a Toolmaker"-if they were women, would they be victims of misogyny too? Or is because they are incompetent dicks?

Rachael was given the nickname Rachel from Accounts because she had tried to bull herself on her CV, the lie was discovered, she had not held a big job and this nickname was meant to highlight this and laugh at it, by exaggerating her lies and laughing at them. It's a comic technique.

Just as Jeremy Corbyn and his stupid schemes have led to his nickname of "Magic Grandad"

If he were a woman would that be misogyny?

When a woman is criticized by everyone-men and women (Ms Badenoch has criticized her and incidentally, Ms Badenoch has never claimed to be a victim of misogyny even though she has been roundly criticised ) and when a woman's reaction to that is to cry misogyny, she does us no favours.

RR is incompetent and laughable-that is why she is called incompetent and people-men and women-laugh at her.

"Never happened", you really do have a problem with me don't you?

It was on Linkedin- the equivalent.

So she should aim it at her party. And we don’t need briefings every few days or every day.

It’s chaotic. And agree with your last part, people don’t like the gaslighting.

Saying a remark is passive aggressive is a personal attack now? It comes across as a passive aggressive comment.......

There always used to be budget purdah.

This budget has been nothing but endless pitch-rolling of possible policies, coming from speeches she's made, or OTR briefings by treasury officials, or from the IFS (whose policies she's linked to via Torsten Bell).

I get why, since the PLP are not interested in acknowledging that endless.benefits are a problem and think they wealthy should pay for everything, and because KS is so ineffectual he can't control his MPs or be assured of his tenure.

But none of that excuses the mayhem its caused and its not like this is the first time she's presided over this.

She's had the opportunity to gainsay what you see as media speculation but she's not done so until very late by which time the damage has been done.

To be honest I think we all.breathed a sigh of relief when she intimated that income tax would rise and be offset by NI reduction. It finally felt that the country was being put before party politics and that stability might reign. But no...