Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

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I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

Why can’t you cry at work? I work for a PLc and a man cried in a SLT last month. No one criticised him.

It's worth bearing in mind we don't actually know what's in the budget yet and won't until tomorrow, so we should hold fire on that point.

It is abundantly clear that a lot of criticism of her is rooted in misogyny.

That does not mean she cannot be legitimately criticised.

I doubt any chancellor trying to put together a budget in this climate would be popular unless they were wildly irresponsible.

Labour is intrinsically sexist as a party and I've no doubt she's facing that from her own party.

Of course the wider criticism is of the dreadful budget to come for which she has totally gone back on her word for and will again and again
We won't be coming back for more

Wrapped in listen let.me.be clear

It was said to be personal; her absence that day would have also been criticised and the PM took the opportunity to reiterate his confidence in her.

we can all think of circumstances where we need to either absent ourselves or have a sniffle. I would say that about a politician of any party.

Of course it's misogyny. See also Angela Rayner. They've both made mistakes but not on the scale of numerous male policiticians who don't receive anything like the criticism.

third degree burns
milk snatcher
kami kwasi
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yorkshire maharajah
never here kier

loads more I can't remember at the moment but feel free to add to my list 😂

I care because not only does it reinforce the helpless little woman trope, it was also at the worse possible moment .

It was during the welfare cuts debacle and it send a message of weakness in the Government plans.

I’m not sure. If I (I’m a woman) cried in a board meeting because our financial results weren’t up to scratch I think my CEO would question my leadership skills and resilience.
If I cried because a loved one was ill and I was sharing that news, I think that would be different.
Part of the job for RR is exuding confidence, setting the direction of travel and showing no doubt in her decision making.

It sent the wrong signal at the wrong time.

The Rachel from Accounts thing only started when it was discovered that the narrative about her being a BofE economist was somewhat embellished. But I agree that it’s gone further than that now and that there is an element of misogyny to attitudes towards her. The problem is that she’s so publicly useless that it’s hard to defend her. At the same time most of the problems she has are from within her own party in terms of massively cutting down her options to deliver on the manifesto.

I really regret voting Labour now because I assumed Keir would keep the left wing under control like TB did but he hasn’t. It’s just reinforced my view that the Labour Party is unworkable in its current form as it’s too broad a church and nothing gets done.

Its not all RR’s fault but she’s the public face of it.

Jeez You re doing it.... its irrelevant, she is probably peri menopause, i thought she was extremely brave to go to the commons, despite how she was feeling, yet we have the idiots saying she "cried" = Unfit for Office.

Why shouldn't she "pull that card" if its true? How can we make life fairer for women if they have to stay silent?

Look how the media have attacked women of all political leanings? i really disliked Truss but the attacks were over the top

To pick up on one comment - 'Rachel from Accounts' was based on her being economical with the truth on her CV and giving herself more credibility than she had.

The same as her experience at the Bank of England where she wasn't actually an economist.

Of course there’s misogyny. I saw a really interesting interview with Jeremy Hunt this weekend who said that budgets are always this chaotic & the only difference is that hers has played out in public & it usually happens behind closed doors.

Oh for God's sake don't starting pulling the menopause card as well!
Is this where we've got to now with emancipation of women?

It’s still a misogynistic phrase however it originated

People with half a brain and a quarter of a heart ought to be able to give proper context. How much of the population this includes, I am not prepared to say.

More likely, as usual, this kind of thing is used against a politician by people who are already against them. People who are neutral or supportive don’t tend to notice much. As in the workplace.

But she started the leaks with her pre budget announcements and therefore created the shit show she's in.

She is the chancellor of the exchequer, nominally the most powerful financial leader in the country.

would you call a female CFO “Sarah from accounts” no. Xyz from accounts refers to the person who processes invoices, approves payments, does payroll. Low level transactional work. It is misogynistic and fascinating in that none of the totally inexperienced male chancellors have been called the same

why? because her name was Rachel and not Roger?
Maybe she ought not to have lied on her CV.

Yes, historically there has been a bit of a gentleman's agreement in the media that you don't speculate about the budget. That has been slowly disappearing but does seem to have ramped up recently.

Personally I don't think the speculation helps anyone and does nothing to calm or reassure the public.

I'm a tax advisor. The last two months have been atrocious thanks to completely unfounded and unhelpful rumours. Regardless of what we see tomorrow I'll just be glad it's done.

Of course it’s misogyny. Male politicians are given so much slack, that is not accorded to their female counterparts.

It is absolutely misogyny, the whole Rachel from accounts thing is insulting to someone in such an important role.

Have you missed the point?

She bigged up her previous roles and was in Customer Services which was in fact a pretty lowly role. She tried to make her CV more than it was - hence the nickname she got.

Yeah apart from she was a BOE economist, she joined their graduate program in 2000 and stayed their until 2006.
The CV thing was because she claimed a slightly longer period, she said in speeches it was the best part of a decade, which dependent on exact dates could have been 7 years...

The Rachel from Accounts was a right wing slur, designed to put her down.

Has she messed up, yes and i don't agree with much she has done either but this thread isn't about policy.

Not so, the press have been reporting rumours in the budget for a few years now but historically that wasn't the case. I think RR is possibly the first one to try and get out ahead of these rumours, but I may be recalling incorrectly.