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Has Reeves hit a new low- saying it's misogyny?

294 replies

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

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poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 09:44

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 09:37

This what?

The Matt Hancock whataboutery?

What's your question? Has he been complaining of misogyny? Of misandry?

What's that to do with my reply to you wine?

But I looked it up and I don't mind him crying. It was a very emotional time and he cried because he was happy and proud of the vaccines. I was one of the first people to receive one, it allowed me to do my job.

It didn't send the financial markets in panic and it didn't do the country a disservice.

I cannot believe anyone with half a brain can't see it.

Hancock was allowed to cry. The reason is secondary. Of course he hasn’t complained. He had nothing to complain about

He distracted himself from the pandemic with an extramarital affair partially conducted in the workplace, This is grave and his preoccupation with personal affairs may well have been a contributory factor to the 23,000 avoidable excess deaths we have just learnt of.

As pointed out by PP, the criticism from those who are so vociferous towards the Chancellor has been strangely muted.

Nanny0gg · 25/11/2025 09:49

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

She's a senior politician and needs to own her bad decisions

Her own party doesn't seem to agree with her either - is that misogyny or realism?

novalia89 · 25/11/2025 09:51

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 07:59

I couldn't believe I was reading this today.

She accuses her critics of being against her budget plans because she is a woman. (But ignores the number of U turns she's done because of the criticism from back benchers)

Using the 'misogyny' card is really desperate IMO.

I don't necessarily think being against the budget is misogyny but criticism of her and her budget (not what is in it) has definite been misogynistically based.

Rachel from Accounts for instance. Demeaning her to just a woman who works in a job that isn't public facing and is 'admin'.

Christmaspuddingsss · 25/11/2025 09:52

Greenwitchart · 25/11/2025 09:39

She is not criticised because she is a woman.

She is rightly criticised because she is incompetent, over-promoted and not suited for the role of Chancellor. She has made one catastrophic decision after another. She also misrepresented her experience in her CV. Those are facts, not misogyny...

It is pathetic that she is now trying to claim that this is because she is a woman.

Starmer, who is also completely out of his depths, gets similar criticism and low poll ratings.

As a feminist it makes me angry when incompetent women try to play that card.

I voted Labour but I am appalled by every member of the current government.

Edited

It comes over as if when you can't stand the heat in the kitchen you accuse everyone they are being horrid to you because you are a woman.
Not because you are incompetent.

I am sure there will be male MPs who we could accuse of misogyny (including Keir who is a nasty piece of work) but she plays into their hands by doing U-turns the moment they turn up the heat.

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MightyDandelionEsq · 25/11/2025 09:53

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 25/11/2025 09:05

Genuinely, why is that misogynistic?

It's an alternative framing of her work record after she was found to be telling porkies about her role.

How is it worse than free-gear Keir or similar rude nicknames?

Previous chancellors:
Flash Gordon
Dishy Rishi
Squiffy (Asquith)

And PMs
Sunny Jim
Grocer Heath
The grocer's daughter
Attilla the hen
The gray man
Bliar
Theresa Maybe
The clown prince (bozza)

Quite. To add to your list, Commie Corbyn and Call me Dave.

Shes called Rach from accounts because she lied on her cv and is grossly under qualified.

Im really tired of women using misogyny as a catch all for any criticism.

Bagsintheboot · 25/11/2025 09:54

I've just seen some comments on this budget which I think are quite apt.

^No-one wants to be affected by anything, and any budget which impacts them or doesn't impact them positively is a "bad" budget.

I am expecting condemnation wholesale no matter what is announced tomorrow because some group or other will be assaulted/suffer a tax raid/made poorer/not get the positives things.

Labour could up all the "left-wing" child benefits and school lunches and it would be framed as helping selfish families with too many kids, or giving immigrants and scroungers free money.

They could tax millionaires, but then it would be framed as attacking the middle class, or forcing a exodus of talented people to leave the country.

They could hit income tax across all brackets, but then what about those poor mums with all their hungry kids and hardworking tradies just trying to earn a crust.

And if they don't raise taxes, then they'll be called out for not fixing the budget deficit and country debt.

Let's be honest, we're going to be told to hate this budget and Rachel Reeves regardless of what's in it.^

rebax · 25/11/2025 09:55

KilliMonjaro · 25/11/2025 08:13

Calling her Rachel from Accounts is highly misogynistic

And Spreadsheet Phil is...?

Kimura · 25/11/2025 09:55

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 09:21

How? she was a BoE economist, for 6 years, thats a matter of fact, she exaggerated her time there but I don't see quite how that deserves being called "Rachel from Accounts"

It wasn't (just) the time she worked there. She claimed to have worked as an economist at HBOS. She actually ran a customer relations dept in their retail arm.

When the Times investigation made this public, she removed all mention of her working as an economist at HBOS from her online presence and replaced it with references to working in 'Retail Banking'. Her dept dealt mostly with complaints and mortgage retention.

When a politician - someone we hold to a high standard of truth as they ask us to trust them with running the country - gets caught fibbing, they get rinsed for it by the press, the public and their political opponents. Man or woman, black or white. Always have, always will.

The joke isn't that she's not a qualified economist, it's a reverse of the exaggeration she made. That she's a woman is irrelevant; 'Bob from Accounts' is the exact same joke.

olderandnonthewiser · 25/11/2025 09:58

Perhaps if she was a competent chancellor there wouldn’t be room for misogyny.

Medexpert · 25/11/2025 10:03

Male politicians are given so much slack
Where have you been in the last 10 years? Yeah Boris and his team never ever got criticised, especially during Covid 🤣

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 10:04

Kimura · 25/11/2025 09:55

It wasn't (just) the time she worked there. She claimed to have worked as an economist at HBOS. She actually ran a customer relations dept in their retail arm.

When the Times investigation made this public, she removed all mention of her working as an economist at HBOS from her online presence and replaced it with references to working in 'Retail Banking'. Her dept dealt mostly with complaints and mortgage retention.

When a politician - someone we hold to a high standard of truth as they ask us to trust them with running the country - gets caught fibbing, they get rinsed for it by the press, the public and their political opponents. Man or woman, black or white. Always have, always will.

The joke isn't that she's not a qualified economist, it's a reverse of the exaggeration she made. That she's a woman is irrelevant; 'Bob from Accounts' is the exact same joke.

Yes this is true but why the focus on 2/3 years at HBoS and not her 6 years at the Bank of England?

Jeremy Hunt broke anti money laundering rules, a far more serious thing, yet no one makes any reference to that, it was all "an admin error"

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/11/2025 10:05

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 09:44

Hancock was allowed to cry. The reason is secondary. Of course he hasn’t complained. He had nothing to complain about

He distracted himself from the pandemic with an extramarital affair partially conducted in the workplace, This is grave and his preoccupation with personal affairs may well have been a contributory factor to the 23,000 avoidable excess deaths we have just learnt of.

As pointed out by PP, the criticism from those who are so vociferous towards the Chancellor has been strangely muted.

Dredging up whataboutery from years ago, is that the best you can do?

Medexpert · 25/11/2025 10:06

Im really tired of women using misogyny as a catch all for any criticism
This! Men don't pay much attention to it but neither do a majority of women any longer because the way it's branded about any time a woman is criticised, making her a poor, vulnerable, misunderstood victim on the spot!

Medexpert · 25/11/2025 10:07

Jeremy Hunt was destroyed by the media when he was heading the NHS, and rightly so!

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 10:08

‘Rachel from accounts’ is a response to the absolute porkers she’s told on her CV. People are rightly furious about this. She’s incompetent and unqualified for her position. Don’t give a rats ass whether she’s a woman. I do care about the wrecking ball she’s taken to the economy.

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 10:10

olderandnonthewiser · 25/11/2025 09:58

Perhaps if she was a competent chancellor there wouldn’t be room for misogyny.

There is always room for misogyny.

The most highly decorated women in STEM, some of whom have been honoured by more than one Head of State, were regularly mocked through their careers (the most decorated ones are retired now) by snotty male undergraduates - as far as I can see, mainly because they did not dress or groom to please young men.

See also Theresa May, the best PM

poetryandwine · 25/11/2025 10:10

Cont’d … of the last decade - admittedly not a high bar

Southernecho · 25/11/2025 10:12

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 10:08

‘Rachel from accounts’ is a response to the absolute porkers she’s told on her CV. People are rightly furious about this. She’s incompetent and unqualified for her position. Don’t give a rats ass whether she’s a woman. I do care about the wrecking ball she’s taken to the economy.

Yes i would be too apart from its not happened, the economy in Labours 1st 16months has done better than the last 16months of the Tories governance, which included 6 months of recession.

Unemployment was 8% under them, 5% now.

Stats can be used either way, so whilst its gone up since july 2024, the number of jobs in the economy are at record highs, as is tax take.

What qualifications are required to be Chancellor?

Nopersbro · 25/11/2025 10:13

💚Come back Gordon Brown Alistair Darling George Osborne Philip Hammond Sajid Javid Rishi Sunak Nadhim Zahawi Kwasi Kwarteng Jeremy Hunt!! All is forgiven!! 🤑

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 10:15

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 25/11/2025 09:05

Genuinely, why is that misogynistic?

It's an alternative framing of her work record after she was found to be telling porkies about her role.

How is it worse than free-gear Keir or similar rude nicknames?

Previous chancellors:
Flash Gordon
Dishy Rishi
Squiffy (Asquith)

And PMs
Sunny Jim
Grocer Heath
The grocer's daughter
Attilla the hen
The gray man
Bliar
Theresa Maybe
The clown prince (bozza)

Also John Major as Underpants Man

askmenow · 25/11/2025 10:16

Bambamhoohoo · 25/11/2025 09:19

Linked in is not a Cv and holds none of the weight of a cv

you know full well that pretending it’s a CV adds weight to the ideas she’s lied and been fraudulent- gaining a job by lying. This is not the case. Her job was not awarded due to her linked in narrative, neither would any job be.

Her job was awarded to her because there was a dearth of talent to fill the role and she was a woman.
DEI at it best! ( ꩜ ᯅ ꩜;) 

JillyJoy · 25/11/2025 10:19

She breezed in with arrogance, she thought she was automatically 'good' and clever because she is a Labour MP. She has assured us that she we will be better off in many different ways.
We do not believe her because none of the measures she has brought in will benefit most of us. (only the feckless who have litters of children will do well).
Worst of all it is not a case of enduring for just another 12 months until it gets better.
There is no sign of improvement in the future, no reason whatever to be optimistic. So why would we soft pedal our opinions of her.

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 25/11/2025 10:21

Of course it's bloody misogyny. Open your eyes to how ALL women are described in the media.

Some of the bias against women is unconscious, like all bias. But it's no excuse.

Frenchues · 25/11/2025 10:23

Is the economy her fault or is it a mess due to global macro factors and "the Tories 14 years of mismanagement".

She has an MSc in economics from the LSE. So why doesn't she just apply what she learnt.

peanutbuttertoasty · 25/11/2025 10:24

She has put my child’s future in jeopardy and for that I despise her. Anyone else with kids in the UK should too. Nothing to do with misogyny. Their future prospects are through the floor. The country will not recover from the damage they are doing. Despise Starmer too.