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First night away with new BF, was he unreasonable

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India87 · 16/11/2025 20:02

As above - would you expect your partner to tell you if they were going to be bringing ‘kink’ items? Or is it appropriate to find out by walking into the bedroom after a bath and finding said items being worn?

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Stravaig · 17/11/2025 01:02

seafoamhair · 17/11/2025 00:33

Yes, that's how one contracts STDs. Also, Hep B, and also bloodborne diseases like HIV, and Hep C.

This guy can't be trusted to have a conversation about it before springing it on the OP. I wouldn't trust his cleaning skills, especially given this unimaginable to me thing was apparently wearing a condom....?

Indeed. Which is why I wouldn't have sex with someone I don't trust to sterilise a sex toy. And I wouldn't demand new toys without first insisting they provide new evidence of a clear sexual health check from a reputable clinic.

You know this, I know this, but MN? If it can care about the wrong thing, it will.

Hons123 · 17/11/2025 01:03

WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 16/11/2025 23:58

Vibrators for use on women either solo or with a partner are pretty mainstream. Cock rings for men, too, though slightly less common.

The gimp-mask-dildo whatever the fuck it is, is very much not mainstream. Consent around it had NOT been established, and surprise and disgust is a perfectly reasonable reaction to somebody springing a surprise gimp-mask-dildo on you.

I see - mainstream perversion vs perversion. Understood.

OtterlyAstounding · 17/11/2025 01:34

Stravaig · 16/11/2025 23:47

To be fair, biological sex parts are shared around and re-used all the time!

Why not sex toys too, with appropriate cleaning in between. Replacing toys for each new partner is nonsensical if you're not also growing a fresh vagina or dick. By all means insist on new, but be clear it's illogical, a psychological comfort blanket you use to delude yourself. Bio sex parts tend to be well used and definitely not sterile 😆.

I wouldn't want a secondhand engagement ring that a man's ex gave back to him when they split up, and that only went on her finger. I'm fairly sure people wouldn't question that, so why question wanting new sex toys (which are far cheaper than rings)?

Besides, the guaranteed cleanliness of a new toy is a bonus and then you can buy it together, which also guarantees that whatever it is, it'll be to your taste. Not hard to understand!

MeTooOverHere · 17/11/2025 01:50

ACatAsleepInYourHat · 16/11/2025 20:17

Did he happen to have a couple of cock rings “accidentally” fall out of his pocket, op?

Oh this will be our go-to for many threads to come!

Caerulea · 17/11/2025 01:57

Butteredtoast55 · 16/11/2025 23:14

I'm not often speechless but this thread has opened my eyes and confirmed that I never want to date ever again!

Should anything happen to DH I can say, with absolute certainty, that this and a billion other stories about modern dating guarantees I'd die single.

ClareBlue · 17/11/2025 01:57

Mumtobabyhavoc · 17/11/2025 00:30

@ClareBlue I'm not opening your posted image, but now that you've searched "dildo gimp mask" I'll be curious if your search suggestions/pop-up ads change! 😂
Do you let anyone use your phone that will see your search history? You might be getting something surprising for Christmas now... 🤣

Edited

It's not looking good, tbh. That's the item and the assumptions Google is making about my leisure time.

SheSaidHummingbird · 17/11/2025 02:01

@India87 "I don’t plan on pursuing things as it stands"

Freudian slip or expertly deployed pun?

TwoBagsOfCompost · 17/11/2025 02:12

SpaceRaccoon · 16/11/2025 22:35

He certainly was in that getup!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

SheSaidHummingbird · 17/11/2025 02:30

@India87 There is no ex partner, it's from all the porn he watches.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 03:47

Oh, OP! That sounds horrendous. And I've got an image of him in my mind basically wearing a gimp mask. My vagina would have clamped shut forever. And bollocks was it for your pleasure. It was for his, hoping to get his kink satisfied that night and that you would go along with it. Because if he cared what you thought, no way would he have sprung it on you like that. And his reaction to being dumped just confirms things.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 04:24

India87 · 16/11/2025 22:33

I’ve been messaging him tonight and said I don’t want to see him anymore because I don’t feel we are compatible. He has turned a bit nasty and said I’m prudish and have shamed him for his interests, maintaining it was for my ‘pleasure’.

I also said I feel uneasy that I suspect he has used that with other women. He pretty much confirmed this by saying it was ‘obviously’ sterilised and that not even rich people would dispose of toys after every use.

So that’s that, I’ll move on!

'Shamed him for his interests ...'

That made me giggle aloud for quite a while! I mean this was hardly a nice little hobby of his, ha. What did he expect?

IamnotaRobotic · 17/11/2025 04:43

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ProfessionalPirate · 17/11/2025 04:48

Stravaig · 17/11/2025 01:02

Indeed. Which is why I wouldn't have sex with someone I don't trust to sterilise a sex toy. And I wouldn't demand new toys without first insisting they provide new evidence of a clear sexual health check from a reputable clinic.

You know this, I know this, but MN? If it can care about the wrong thing, it will.

How on earth do you know whether to ‘trust’ that someone knows how to sterilise a sex toy? Lots of otherwise intelligent people don’t have a clue what sterilisation actually involves. Plastic and rubber are hard to sterilise properly. That’s why gynaecologists use single-use plastic speculums.

You do you but I don’t think there’s anything strange or unreasonable about a woman wanting to use either her own or new sex toys if they are going to end up inside her.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 17/11/2025 05:03

Too early in your relationship for that. You’d at least hope for romance first. I would hate that. How did you respond?

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 17/11/2025 05:28

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The only thread you've started on MN was the one where you listed all the ways in which your DH is a dick.

Empress13 · 17/11/2025 06:08

India87 · 16/11/2025 20:23

That it was for my benefit and he thought I’d have liked it

Jesus Christ what was he thinking! I’d definitely dump him

Alittlefrustrated · 17/11/2025 06:55

Figleafpants · 16/11/2025 20:45

Ewwwwww it was the same mask he used with his ex wasnt it?

🤮

Well presumably the same penis that he's had with multiple woman, so what's the difference? Most present the penis without protection!

KateShugakIsALegend · 17/11/2025 07:00

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/11/2025 22:53

My message back?

How fucking dare you? You do understand that shaming women for having boundaries makes you sound like a sex offender. My pleasure is up to me and any decent man ASKS what women like. They don’t just assume. I hope you are ashamed. Not for your interests, but for your total lack of understanding of consent.

<shudders> Fucking weirdo.

This. He's a bully.

Lastfroginthebox · 17/11/2025 07:31

Mumtobabyhavoc · 17/11/2025 00:30

@ClareBlue I'm not opening your posted image, but now that you've searched "dildo gimp mask" I'll be curious if your search suggestions/pop-up ads change! 😂
Do you let anyone use your phone that will see your search history? You might be getting something surprising for Christmas now... 🤣

Edited

I clicked on the photo. It was slightly more horrific than I imagined (I mean, why couldn't it be the face of someone we might fancy?!) - but more shocking was the £152 price tag!

GameOfJones · 17/11/2025 07:54

Hons123 · 17/11/2025 01:03

I see - mainstream perversion vs perversion. Understood.

You don't understand anything. Forget the sex toys, that's a personal preference on a very broad spectrum and if people are into them that is fine if openly discussed with their partners.

But how is consent a difficult concept for you? Consent has to be established every single time. DH and I have a healthy sex life and I love him very much but I'd still be pissed off to walk out of the bathroom to him lying on the bed fully erect and expecting me to just hop on.

This guy was presuming he was having sex with OP and expecting her to just go along with what he wanted to do with no build up or conversation beforehand. He knows jack shit about how to seduce a woman or turn her on.

Figleafpants · 17/11/2025 07:55

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/11/2025 22:53

My message back?

How fucking dare you? You do understand that shaming women for having boundaries makes you sound like a sex offender. My pleasure is up to me and any decent man ASKS what women like. They don’t just assume. I hope you are ashamed. Not for your interests, but for your total lack of understanding of consent.

<shudders> Fucking weirdo.

ALL THIS.

Send this OP! what a horrible man

autumn1610 · 17/11/2025 07:56

100% you weren’t shaming him. I’ve learnt people love some weird and wonderful (to them!) things and that is perfectly ok when discussed and you are given the opportunity to say yea that could be fun let’s try it or to be honest you with a gimp mask and dildo on your face is not gonna do it for me. It doesn’t matter what him and his ex got up to that was their relationship and if that’s the sort of thing they did then absolutely fine. But you are not here and the boundaries are not the same

Nutmuncher · 17/11/2025 07:57

Grim, some people are fucking weirdos.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 17/11/2025 07:58

India87 · 16/11/2025 20:19

It was a mask with a sort of gag/toy on it. My reaction was to say WTF rather than laugh at the time.

Oh no, weirdo.
I think I'd leave immediately.
I have a weird memory in a early relationship, years ago, it was a man-bikini of some sort, absolutely vile. 🫣

BlueEyedBogWitch · 17/11/2025 07:59

SunnyDolly · 16/11/2025 20:22

What did he say???

“Mfff mmm mmf mmff mmm.”