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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask: Married ladies, what’s one reality check single women need to hear?

238 replies

BeforeTheRingBlinds · 16/11/2025 19:15

Not the cliché stuff like “marriage takes work” or “communication is key”, we’ve heard that a million times. I mean the real stuff. The things no one really warns you about. The moments that blindside you. The shifts that happen after the ring or after kids or even just in the daily grind. What’s one truth you wish someone had told you before you got married, especially something that might surprise or sober up those of us who are still single?

AIBU to think that behind all the cute photos and wedding hype, there’s a whole layer of marriage that’s rarely spoken about?

(And yes, I’m ready for honesty not doom.)

OP posts:
Baital · 17/11/2025 00:29

Maybe single women can provide a reality check to married women?

Baital · 17/11/2025 00:33

Along the lines of 'live your own life, married or single'?

Value and respect supportive relationships - marriage or friendship.

Value yourself and also compromise.

Basically treat others as decent human beings, be tolerant, but also expect the same for yourself.

No difference between being single or married really.

Friendlygingercat · 17/11/2025 00:36

When you are single you have only your own family to cope with. When you are in a relationship you can get lumbered with your partners relativesas well! You can step back from your own family if you dont get on with them. However if your partner's folks are not to your taste it can impact seriously on your relationship with your husband/wife/bf/gf

Justacigarette · 17/11/2025 00:45

Be kind to each other

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/11/2025 00:47

BeforeTheRingBlinds · 16/11/2025 19:15

Not the cliché stuff like “marriage takes work” or “communication is key”, we’ve heard that a million times. I mean the real stuff. The things no one really warns you about. The moments that blindside you. The shifts that happen after the ring or after kids or even just in the daily grind. What’s one truth you wish someone had told you before you got married, especially something that might surprise or sober up those of us who are still single?

AIBU to think that behind all the cute photos and wedding hype, there’s a whole layer of marriage that’s rarely spoken about?

(And yes, I’m ready for honesty not doom.)

If you have heard the clichés a million times, why are you dismissing them?

"Communication is que" is absolutely the "real" stuff. Once the first flush of 'being in love' and the 'lust where you want to rip each others clothes off' has calmed down, a couples ability to communicate both honestly, and respectively, with each other, can be the difference between an on going successful partnership, and one that starts to fray at the seams.

Being able to communicate effectively and still lovingly with each other, needs to be maintained throughout the whole of the relationship. A knowledge of one of the biggest disrupters of any type of relationship, is also paramount in helping to keep an even keel within relationships. I am referring to our egos. We primarily need to acknowledge and understand our own ego's here. Once we realise that when we feel hurt in almost any realationship - whether it is between a parent and a child, romantic partners, a works partnership, or even good friends (and no, my use of dashes does not mean I am an AI writing this, if necessary I will tick how many boxes have American traffic lights in them to prove it 🤭) - it is almost always because of our egos.

However, I am not saying that we shouldn't have egos, particularly in this day and age, because if we were able to surpress our egos until they practically disappear, we would, in many cases be opening ourselves up to being used and manipulated by all manners of characters. I would love to be able say that of course that doesn't apply to the parent and child scenario, but you only have to read a few pages of Mumsnet to have that notion thoroughly destroyed. So we very much need to hold on to our egos, but I also believe that we need to recognise that we have one, and realise - probably through much soul serching, and maybe even through personal research (the second of which I admit to not having done so for myself) - that we can, and some of us quite frequently do, hold our egos in too high an esteem.

When we let our egos be our main guide through life, they can make us view many types of transactions, and relationships, from a far too heavily weighted in our own favour, viewpoint. If, in a romantic partnership, we feel safe enough to commit to sharing our lives with another human being - whether that is moving in together, or actually getting married before living together - then we need to already be communicating successfully, and without our egos being at the forefront of our relationship. We need to be able to trust that our partner is the safest, and most trustworthy person that we can share our ego with, and, of course, that must work vice versa as well.

Unfortunately @BeforeTheRingBlinds,
as great as it would be to be in that position with our partners, in reality, the chance of any of us being able to be that certain of our chosen partner before having spent almost a lifetime together, is quite remote. I first got married as a teenager, and I certainly had, what we used to call 'rose coloured spectacles' on. He was my first serious partner, and I was his, and no, we didn't have to get married, we didn't have our first child for almost another 4 years. I was extremely lucky for almost a decade, as he was absolutely lovely, a good husband, and an even better dad, and also very intelligent, with a great career as well. That was until the aliens came down from their spaceship and changed him. I hadn't even realised that had happened until the night he told me that he was leaving me for his colleague.

His timing was atrocious, but I can't explain why it was worse than most other times would have been, because even after all these years later, the situation is still very outing, and my broadcasting it could hurt too many people, including him and the colleague he left me for.

Anyway, I think that my ego was a late starter, as it still didn't really start to kick in for several months after he left. Some years later I went into my second marriage with my ego at last playing a part, but it has taken nearly 30 odd years for the consciousness and importance of my ego to really wake-up. So, I now realise, that at least for me, that I shouldn't let my ego get in the way of worthwhile relationships - if someone important to me forgot my birthday, or didn't invite me, as their soon to be mother-in-law, to their hen do, then so what, it's not worth ruining my relationship with my potential daughter-in-law, or even more importantly, with my son. However, if my romantic partner of many years started to treat my important birthdays etc as if they didn't really happen, but still expected me to treat theirs as very important, then that would be when my ego should absolutely let me know that I mustn't let them get away with treating me like that! You might recognise my last two examples as having come from either the newspapers, or Mumsnet itself.

Gosh, I think it is very likely that you gave up reading this ages ago OP, and I couldn't blame you, as I have a cramp in my left hand and wrist - from squeezing my phone too tight - and my eyes are gritty, but worst of all my brain has gone so fuzzy that I don't even know if any of this makes any sense! I suppose that all I really should have said when I started this reply was, "OP, be aware of your and your future partner's ego, keep yours in-check, but don't forget it's worth, and remind him if his gets out of reasonable control. The only way either of you can be aware of those necessities, is to keep communicating together as one of both of yours best assets.

Sorry, I am far too tired to check whether this makes any sort of sense, is mainly grammatically correct, and that there aren't too many spelling mistakes 😵‍💫🤗

Netcurtainnelly · 17/11/2025 00:49

RuncibleSpoons · 16/11/2025 19:26

I’m married, but I’m not a ‘lady’ 🤮

I’d say marry someone kind, who comes from a nice drama-free family.

Impossible. Dramas can develop.over time.

Jumpingthruhoops · 17/11/2025 01:41

Your stance is incredibly negative, OP. Been married 30 years myself and the advice I'd always give to singles about marriage is very simple: marry your best friend, work as a team but also respect each other as individuals. Oh and learn how to argue. Do all of the above and there's no reason why anyone can't remain happily married.

Flpiiant · 17/11/2025 01:49

BeforeTheRingBlinds · 16/11/2025 21:19

Just the usual range - friends who found the shift from dating to married life harder than expected and others who said it made no real difference. Things like changes in routines, expectations, household dynamics, that sort of thing. Nothing dramatic or thread-worthy, which is why I was asking more broadly.

Right. Can you share a specific example?
Most normal, human, non journalists would find it reasonably simple to relate their question or comment back to a real life scenario. Can you?

XWKD · 17/11/2025 01:53

You can fall out of love in an instant for no particular reason.

UnwantedOpinionBelow · 17/11/2025 02:26

I think the most important thing is creating some future goals together and constantly working towards them, growing together is important.

MossAndLeaves · 17/11/2025 02:29

Personality is 100x more important than looks.

Muffinmam · 17/11/2025 02:34

winterbluess · 16/11/2025 19:20

They need to be your best friend. Don't go looking for someone with the most money or perfect muscles, go looking for someone you genuinely get on with and you want to spend your time with!

I absolutely disagree.

I have a large family of origin and a large extended family.

One cousin is married to a banker. Her lifestyle is insane with houses and trips to Europe. Even if I win the lottery I wouldn’t have as much money as her.

Another cousin had to move in with her mother after finding out the father of her child was cheating on her. She has nothing. Her mother rents.

Another cousin is divorced and a single mother with multiple children and stuck in a town she hates. She divorced her “best friend” because he had zero ambition (he even turned down a promotion) and was telling their children to just be a worker because it’s not worth the stress.

My sister in law is in the process of divorcing her husband. They sold their $3million property and she bought a house near the beach and didn’t have to get a mortgage.

My sister married her best friend and needs to work to pay the mortgage. She travels hours every day for work and is exhausted.

I have more examples from my family. But I think it’s enough to make my point.

PollyBell · 17/11/2025 06:09

Muffinmam · 17/11/2025 02:34

I absolutely disagree.

I have a large family of origin and a large extended family.

One cousin is married to a banker. Her lifestyle is insane with houses and trips to Europe. Even if I win the lottery I wouldn’t have as much money as her.

Another cousin had to move in with her mother after finding out the father of her child was cheating on her. She has nothing. Her mother rents.

Another cousin is divorced and a single mother with multiple children and stuck in a town she hates. She divorced her “best friend” because he had zero ambition (he even turned down a promotion) and was telling their children to just be a worker because it’s not worth the stress.

My sister in law is in the process of divorcing her husband. They sold their $3million property and she bought a house near the beach and didn’t have to get a mortgage.

My sister married her best friend and needs to work to pay the mortgage. She travels hours every day for work and is exhausted.

I have more examples from my family. But I think it’s enough to make my point.

So how much is any of this money earnt by the woman, or are men only good as a bank?

RhaenysRocks · 17/11/2025 07:09

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 16/11/2025 19:20

Perhaps not all us lowly single women aspire to be married ladies, OP. Or to have our reality checked by them, for that matter.

Then don't read the thread, Christ!

tuvamoodyson · 17/11/2025 07:17

RuncibleSpoons · 16/11/2025 19:26

I’m married, but I’m not a ‘lady’ 🤮

I’d say marry someone kind, who comes from a nice drama-free family.

I’m a married lady. Have been for many years, I married my best friend and were a great team! ❤️

WinterBerry40 · 17/11/2025 07:22

curious79 · 16/11/2025 19:28

The surprise to me (second time round) was how much better our relationship felt by getting married. It feels like we’re in it together. I wasn’t in that space before

All the cliches - they don’t change, having children won’t improve a relationship etc etc - are all tried and true.

ultimately if it’s not all bloody fantastic before you get married it definitely won’t be afterwards

everyone should have pre marriage counselling - the amount of unsaid expectation you both carry into a marriage is extraordinary. What marriage means, what should change, what should be shared - everything that should happen now you’re married. This would be my most important piece of advice. You need to understand what each of you are carrying.

Not for everyone . We lived together for 20 years before we got married and it doesn't feel any different to before .

DonicaLewinsky · 17/11/2025 07:36

ThatCyanCat · 16/11/2025 21:48

Hard agree. I've seen no evidence that unmarried women do less of the domestic work overall than married ones, but they do lack the legal protection. Inevitably some women are better off unmarried for various reasons, but at a class level, marriage protects and benefits women more than being unmarried.

Yep!

Patriarchy is very happy indeed when women take on the caring labour without even the imperfect protection that marriage offers. If we were going to not do any of it at all, would be different... but we do.

DarkRootsBlue · 17/11/2025 07:55

What a lazy thread. OP written in AI, then the odd comment thrown in to keep the content flowing. Reminds me of the thread the other day urging for people to ‘reconnect’ with someone and then come back and share the results. No personal input from the OP, just draining other people.

Peridoteage · 17/11/2025 07:59

Don't plan a wedding

Plan a marriage.

Expect that lust will not be what underpins it long term. It will be shared values and goals, companionship, friendship.

Talk about what you want, what you think is important, talk about plans for children and how you want to raise them. Ive seen marriages fail because one partner doesn't think its important to support children with hobbies & encourage them in education and the other thinks this is a huge part of parenting.

Millytante · 17/11/2025 12:18

birdling · 16/11/2025 22:26

I like being married. It makes me feel good that someone thought me special enough to want to marry me.

God that’s a terrible thing to admit (but then, the whole engagement ring industry depends on it)

Mrsnothingthanks · 17/11/2025 12:25

@Millytante Agreed, but in the same vein, many women still declare they are "proud to be a Mrs Hisname".

Nevereatcardboard · 17/11/2025 12:28

Be honest, kind and respectful towards each other. Physical attraction matters but everything that happens in the other 23 and 3/4 hours a day matters more!

babyno2duejuly2026 · 17/11/2025 12:33

Wait until you find the right person.

Don’t feel like you need to be married or that being single makes you any less of a woman.

It’s better to be single and happy than in a relationship with someone you’re not truly happy with.

A lot of people getting engaged and married because they think it’s the done thing. They don’t like to be single, they think oh I’m 30 so I better be married. Then they end up marrying someone who becomes a awful husband and a hands off parent.

Millytante · 17/11/2025 13:11

Mrsnothingthanks · 17/11/2025 12:25

@Millytante Agreed, but in the same vein, many women still declare they are "proud to be a Mrs Hisname".

Oh absolutely!
It’s that title which has always rendered the addition of ‘Ms’ to our choice of titles a problematic solution.

Suffice it to say, I reckon all adult women will need to be titled ‘Mrs’ at some point, (though personally I think lifelong ‘Miss’ is best).
Like ‘Madame’ in France
Married women for whom the title is a proud boast will always stand in the way of any universal female title which denies it to them, but we do need one all the same.
A title, useful as one is in our society, needs to be as utterly neutral as ‘Mr’ is, and until that is the case, women are in an inferior position owing to having three flipping titles to choose from.

We have to stop and declare something about ourselves on all kinds of official forms, and even the use of ‘Ms’ is not the simple and neutral choice it was intended to be. Merely choosing to use this non-committal title actually states a position, and it’s the necessity to need to do that which infuriates me so.

Until we are all titled by one universal female title, we still have a weight attached to one ankle compared to men in this matter.
It sounds petty, maybe, but it’s all part of a lingering undermining of equality, keeping us in second place in ways other than the much greater equality issues campaigned and fought about.

Oof! Rant over 🙄

Imbrocator · 17/11/2025 13:35

What a bizarre question - what secret advice do you think married women have that women in any other relationship don’t have? The only difference is a contract. If you’re looking for things women should know before getting married, it’s learning what legal responsibilities they’re signing up for before they put their names down in the registry office. Everything else is the same as any romantic relationship.