So who is going to be brave enough to ask whether Shabana Mahmood's proposed reforms are right/sensible/racist?

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Is Shabana Mahmood right or wrong to restrict asylum seeker's rights? In general?

It's a measured response rather than the knee jerk reaction we have been seeing lately from all and sundry. It's a vote winner/loser depending on your opinion but it's out there now. Will it happen? Rwanda didn't and neither have other schemes but this issue won't go away.

I was actually quite impressed. I thought the removal of family reunification would cause too much outrage on the back benches but she has gone even further.

@Octavia64 says a lot of what I think about migration and refugee status. Obviously living through war is hell and I think the UK's approach to Ukrainian women and children is good. I also hope they are able to go home to rebuild their country better.

I am much less enthusiastic about young male "refugees" from the Maghreb and Africa. The burden of proving their peril should be much higher.

I agree @BeefFriedChips . But no Conservative politician, even a POC, could have proposed what Shabana Mahmoud is expected to announce tomorrow without facing a barrage of racism allegations. Priti Patel and Suella Braverman would have been eviscerated on MN if they had drafted the same proposals.

Raid and raid again the barbers and nail
bars. We have tons around us. Often take cash only.

Its right in front of us and the authorities still do very little.

To be fair we’ve had loads of raids round here, they are getting through them.

I suspect a lot of labour MPs will have decided that they are too busy to do the interview rounds tomorrow!.

AIUI the courts can't overturn primary legislation. They can issue a declaration of incompatibility with the ECHR (I have no idea what the likelihood is of that here) but the UK doesn't actually have to change the law as a result. We've previously had declarations of incompatibility (e.g. re not allowing prisoners to vote) which we ignored for years.

Takeaways, car washes, convenience stores, deliveroo and just eat drivers...

It's SO easy to work under the radar.

Why is not wanting 1000s of undocumented men being allowed to roam free, at our expense, and do as they please, being racist?
Has anyone seen the video of the vigil for poor Rhiannon which was invaded by pro immigration protesters?.
It was shameful, bloody shameful
Get all these men into detention centres, get them processed and get them the fuck out of this country. Before we have civil unrest
Because this will happen, the British are fed up of being laughed at by the rest of the world 😡

You do know that a lot of people granted asylum return to their homelands for holidays?

Surely, if you are granted asylum and then a few years later return for holidays in the place you said you were fleeing from, that place must now be safe to return to permanently?

This is my opinion as the descendant of legal immigrants who came to the UK at the request of the then post war government's.

I occasionally watch GB News, it sometimes covers things more thoroughly than the ‘impartial’ BBC.

That's correct. Some of the "terrified" afghan interpreters have been going back for holidays.

We are being laughed at it’s an utter disgrace the state of the country.

The only way back is mass deportations..,tensions are at boiling point near me.

😅😅😅

The concern is, with cuts expected via spending reviews on all Gov depts, is how on earth are they going to be able to regularly review each persons claim every few years? Unless it’s just purely a ‘how is the situation in x country right now’ and then that’s everyone reviewed. Only way to do it. Makes sense though if the situation changes in a country, why not say you can return. The reality is, I doubt many people will return.

What is needed, is faster processing of asylum claim, and swift removal of those who aren’t successful. With all the appeals / legal routes it’s pretty difficult to remove many people, and of course some will be back the following week.

Are you saying the country cannot afford to help asylum seekers. We are a very rich country with wealth shared very unfairly.

No, you.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy902djzv2o.amp

We are not rich and we have no space.

100% right to restrict.

need to detain and deport

@Whistonia no we’re not.