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Step daughters 18th meal

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Bitterfromthesweet · 15/11/2025 23:51

My husband spilt from his ex 10 years ago. They have a daughter together. I have been with my husband for 9 years.
She is coming up to her 18th birthday and my husband’s ex suggested the two of them take their daughter out for dinner as they have “raised her to 18”

I didn’t see a problem with the meal but this comment has annoyed me, as I have also been in her life for 9 years. I took her out when she wanted to go when she was younger, picked her up from school, gave her all her meals, tidied her room, done her washing etc.

This has made me feel like a free nanny for 9 years.
Maybe I’m over reacting. I don’t want to go to the meal, it would be weird, but an invite would have been nice.

OP posts:
the7Vabo · 16/11/2025 13:24

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 12:57

I know I said we don’t get along, we don’t have any bond which is understandable she has only been a child who didn’t chose this. But she does not have a bond with anybody. She is very shy and quiet and rarely talks to her dad (I don’t know her relationship with her mum). She treats me the same as every family member; with contempt. So what I’m trying to say is, we have no bond but it’s the same as her dad. So playing happy families the two of them just doesn’t sit right.

Maybe what you are interpreting as “contempt” is anger or sadness at her domestic situation. Maybe she’s just a moody teen & it’s a phase

“Playing happy families the two of them” makes you sound insecure.

My parents did multiple things with me when I was behaving like a sulky teen to mark milestones etc nothing unusual about it.

The issues you have are between you & DP.

BadLad · 16/11/2025 13:24

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 12:57

I know I said we don’t get along, we don’t have any bond which is understandable she has only been a child who didn’t chose this. But she does not have a bond with anybody. She is very shy and quiet and rarely talks to her dad (I don’t know her relationship with her mum). She treats me the same as every family member; with contempt. So what I’m trying to say is, we have no bond but it’s the same as her dad. So playing happy families the two of them just doesn’t sit right.

It’s not for you to decide that her relationship with her parents “doesn’t sit right”. This comment makes you sound really childish.

Wordsmithery · 16/11/2025 13:30

Moetandchandelier · 16/11/2025 00:03

That is an annoying comment for him to make. So the two people that have given her a split and dysfunctional family get to take her out and pretend they have been wonderful family! Brilliant!

Horrible assumptions you're making. Being divorced doesn't have to mean a dysfunctional family. How on earth do you know they haven't been wonderful parents?!

Bellyblueboy · 16/11/2025 13:35

BadLad · 16/11/2025 13:24

It’s not for you to decide that her relationship with her parents “doesn’t sit right”. This comment makes you sound really childish.

For as long as OP and her husband are together there are going to be lots of things that ‘don’t sit right’ with OP.

It sounds like she doesn’t believe the girl deserves a healthy relationship with her parents. Doesn’t want any fences to be mended unless they involve her.

I think her husband will find he has to decide at some point between a relationship with his adult daughter or his wife.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/11/2025 13:39

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 00:05

Yeah it just seems strange to be going out the two of them with my step daughter when they both have partners, why not the four of us go out?

Idk except I know my dd wanting this for her “celebration after GCSE results”, even though I suggested inviting her step mum who she gets on with.

No siblings, no other relatives, just her mum and her dad.

I think we underestimate how much teens want this occasionally even if they know your divorce was the right thing.

Figgie · 16/11/2025 13:43

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 12:57

I know I said we don’t get along, we don’t have any bond which is understandable she has only been a child who didn’t chose this. But she does not have a bond with anybody. She is very shy and quiet and rarely talks to her dad (I don’t know her relationship with her mum). She treats me the same as every family member; with contempt. So what I’m trying to say is, we have no bond but it’s the same as her dad. So playing happy families the two of them just doesn’t sit right.

You can't say she doesn't have a bond with anybody because you literally don't know that. It just sounds bitchy to make that sweeping assumption.

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 13:54

@Bitterfromthesweet
this is one of those step mum hating threads you'll never win. If you hadn’t tried hard for the last ten years , you’re a cow, you have tried hard so you’re the unpaid nanny. How dare you even consider yourself important here .. blah blah.

TBh my husband would rather gauge out his own eyes than go to a cosy dinner for three with his ex whatever the occasion. He’s wouldn’t even consider it, she’d do something with her mum and something with us. I think the fake ‘perfect family’ nonsense is pathetic.

Bellyblueboy · 16/11/2025 13:58

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 13:54

@Bitterfromthesweet
this is one of those step mum hating threads you'll never win. If you hadn’t tried hard for the last ten years , you’re a cow, you have tried hard so you’re the unpaid nanny. How dare you even consider yourself important here .. blah blah.

TBh my husband would rather gauge out his own eyes than go to a cosy dinner for three with his ex whatever the occasion. He’s wouldn’t even consider it, she’d do something with her mum and something with us. I think the fake ‘perfect family’ nonsense is pathetic.

Really - if your husband’s daughter wanted to have dinner with her two parents he would refuse and would insist on a dinner with you instead?

I assume there is a high conflict relationship there. Most adults could get through one dinner with someone they don’t particularly like for the sake of their child.

i am sorry your husband feels this way - it’s a shame he can’t get passed his own emotions.

will he refuse to sit at the top table at a wedding because he can’t stand his ex? Will he refuse to visit his new grandchild in the hospital unless you are there and his ex has left the building?

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 14:02

Bellyblueboy · 16/11/2025 13:58

Really - if your husband’s daughter wanted to have dinner with her two parents he would refuse and would insist on a dinner with you instead?

I assume there is a high conflict relationship there. Most adults could get through one dinner with someone they don’t particularly like for the sake of their child.

i am sorry your husband feels this way - it’s a shame he can’t get passed his own emotions.

will he refuse to sit at the top table at a wedding because he can’t stand his ex? Will he refuse to visit his new grandchild in the hospital unless you are there and his ex has left the building?

It’s not the daughter insisting here, it’s the ex wife! Thats why it’s different.

we will all sit on the top table if there ever is one in the future!

it’s not that anyone can’t go to dinner, everyone has just moved on and don’t feel the need to pretend any different!

Bellyblueboy · 16/11/2025 14:07

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 14:02

It’s not the daughter insisting here, it’s the ex wife! Thats why it’s different.

we will all sit on the top table if there ever is one in the future!

it’s not that anyone can’t go to dinner, everyone has just moved on and don’t feel the need to pretend any different!

So you have to be at the top table?

my friend had a small top table - only wanted the four parents with step parents at the two family tables with uncles and aunts. One step mother kicked off majorly: tears, tantrums. She wasn’t being treated with respect (even though she was sat beside the bride’s grandparents).

ruined the wedding - other two step parents were perfectly happy. She didn’t attend the wedding. Huge fuss becuase she felt she should be given the same status as the brides mother. No one else understood what the hell she was on about and she was the but of many a joke at the reception🤣.

theonlygirl · 16/11/2025 14:12

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 00:07

I just think it would be nice for the four parents and my step daughter to go out. Why just the biological ones?

Because the children of divorced parents sometimes just want to celebrate their important milestones with their actual parents, especially if their actual parents are civil enough to do it. Not everything is about the partners. You and your husband take her out separately and let her enjoy her time with her mum and dad.

SatsumaDog · 16/11/2025 16:49

theonlygirl · 16/11/2025 14:12

Because the children of divorced parents sometimes just want to celebrate their important milestones with their actual parents, especially if their actual parents are civil enough to do it. Not everything is about the partners. You and your husband take her out separately and let her enjoy her time with her mum and dad.

Exactly. She will get one 18th birthday. She deserves to celebrate it with her parents. It’s one meal.

All her life she will have to deal with this. Every important milestone will involve discussions around her parents new spouses. Where are they seated at the wedding, what about the first dance, etc. Nothing will be about her and it will be all about them. Just cut the shit and give the girl a break.

MeridianB · 16/11/2025 17:14

If you had an amazing warm relationship with DSD I would say her parents should include you and stepdad. But you know that’s not the case, so however jarring it seems, it’s best to let it go.

And yes, perhaps reassess your feelings about recognition for your efforts from DH - he is the one who should be voicing appreciation and encouraging his DD to say thank you.

HideousKinky · 16/11/2025 18:16

They are not playing happy families OP.

They are striving to do their best by their daughter and celebrate important moments in her life together, as the people who brought her into the world & share responsibility for her, because one thing they do still have in common is their love for and interest in her.

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 18:33

theonlygirl · 16/11/2025 14:12

Because the children of divorced parents sometimes just want to celebrate their important milestones with their actual parents, especially if their actual parents are civil enough to do it. Not everything is about the partners. You and your husband take her out separately and let her enjoy her time with her mum and dad.

I completely agree but , this is not being driven by the child! It’s empty and nonsense as she doesn’t care!

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 18:36

Bellyblueboy · 16/11/2025 14:07

So you have to be at the top table?

my friend had a small top table - only wanted the four parents with step parents at the two family tables with uncles and aunts. One step mother kicked off majorly: tears, tantrums. She wasn’t being treated with respect (even though she was sat beside the bride’s grandparents).

ruined the wedding - other two step parents were perfectly happy. She didn’t attend the wedding. Huge fuss becuase she felt she should be given the same status as the brides mother. No one else understood what the hell she was on about and she was the but of many a joke at the reception🤣.

It wouldn’t be a big deal , we didn’t have a top table at all! But parents would all sit together, I’ve been to many weddings the same. I wouldn’t care or make a fuss either way tbh. Im just not that bothered. I think in this instance , it’s not being driven by the child so the OP has a valid viewpoint.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 17/11/2025 06:13

You don’t like her. You think she treats everyone with contempt and doesn’t have a bond with anyone.

why do you even care? You haven’t said one kind thing about her.

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 17/11/2025 06:27

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 00:07

I just think it would be nice for the four parents and my step daughter to go out. Why just the biological ones?

Because you don't get on with her.

I'm guessing the parents like their child

the7Vabo · 17/11/2025 07:30

MellowPinkDeer · 16/11/2025 14:02

It’s not the daughter insisting here, it’s the ex wife! Thats why it’s different.

we will all sit on the top table if there ever is one in the future!

it’s not that anyone can’t go to dinner, everyone has just moved on and don’t feel the need to pretend any different!

You cannot “move on” from being a parent or a child. It’s not a romantic meal out it’s about the child . And lots of teenagers are sulky or appear not to care. It doesn’t mean the parents never do anything with them.

Htcunya · 17/11/2025 09:00

Why use the term 'biological parents'? They are her parents.

Shmee1988 · 17/11/2025 09:11

This post kind of reads more like youre upsetvatbthe idea of your dh and his ex playing happy families without you, which, for the record I totally get. Dont take it personally.

Bellyblueboy · 17/11/2025 09:25

But they are this girl’s family. They are her mum and dad. What has this ‘playing happy families’ nonsense got to do with it?

Why can’t a child have dinner with her two parents? Lots of people are mature enough to do this for their child.

What has struck me is how so many people can’t see this from the child’s perspective.

the7Vabo · 17/11/2025 12:11

Bellyblueboy · 17/11/2025 09:25

But they are this girl’s family. They are her mum and dad. What has this ‘playing happy families’ nonsense got to do with it?

Why can’t a child have dinner with her two parents? Lots of people are mature enough to do this for their child.

What has struck me is how so many people can’t see this from the child’s perspective.

It’s also the constant “step parents can’t win”, I get it to a point but it’s not about you “winning.”
If you don’t want to deal with the downsides of being a step-parent which includes him dealing with his ex marry someone without children. It’s that simple.
But don’t marry someone with children & insist you must sit at the top table, create an issue over two parents taking their child out for her 18th etc.
If you feel resentful that you did a lot for this child without acknowledgment take it up with DH separately.

beefthief · 17/11/2025 13:26

AnotherForumUser · 16/11/2025 10:11

Don't be so deliberately stupid. You know damn well what the OP meant. Just because she's a stepmum doesn't mean she is simply a fucking skivvy who has to take on responsibility for all the domestic shit. The one to blame here is the sperm donor who should have taken responsibility for HIS daughter rather than dumping the child related grunt work on the new woman. Sadly some men do this, cheered on, aided and abetted by the squealing handmaidens of misogyny some of whom have popped up like bindweed on this thread. The OP simply should have been welcoming, kind and courteous to her stepdaughter but left daddy dearest to tidy up after his child, to do the school run etc. Instead the OP does the work while the bearer of the flaccid dick wafts around pretending to be father of the year. No the OP doesn't need to be invited not does she need a medal for not "throwing a mega tantrum" as you spouted in your other hyperbolic post. The OP has misplaced her frustrations in this case. There's nothing wrong with just the two parents and their daughter having celebratory meal. But the OP does have a problem. With her husband who has dismissed her efforts with the DSD. She didn't need to do that stuff. Not her child after all. Daddy dearest should have expressed appreciation either by acknowledging her unseen work instead of ignoring the fact he's been able to slack off. If parents are so keen to tell stepmums how unimportant they are then they should be delighted to do all the work such as clearing up mess made by the child, taking care of their child, ferrying their child. Or pay someone a professional wage to do it. But don't expect someone else to do that work for free for you and your offspring without basic appreciation. They don't have to fucking do it.

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Seek help, this is deranged

Swiftie1878 · 17/11/2025 13:39

Bitterfromthesweet · 16/11/2025 00:11

She’s never wanted to do anything with me. I know I’m the adult but whenever I’ve said I’ll buy her anything or take her anywhere she always says no. She wouldn’t even give me her phone number after a time I couldn’t find her at school pick up as she’d gone with a friend.

It’s her 18th birthday.
Let her celebrate it with her parents, who she cares about and gets along with.
Why would you WANT to be included?! Just to stir things up? Make everyone uncomfortable? Come on…..🤷🏼‍♀️

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