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AIBU to feel hurt and pushed aside by DIL?

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confusedgranny · 13/11/2025 13:25

I’m genuinely not sure anymore whether I’m being reasonable or “one of THOSE MILs”.

My DIL is pregnant with their 2nd child. Her first birth was very traumatic, and I’ve honestly tried to be sensitive and supportive this time. Despite this I appear to have got it wrong. One small example: I recently found out (through my other child) that during the first birth, DIL didn’t want me updated when labour started and would have preferred to tell me only once the baby had arrived (I didn’t message or try to contact her once during the labour). She also found it offensive when I asked my son how HE was following the traumatic birth. I genuinely thought he might need checking on too, given how shaken he said he felt, but it seems that was taken as ignoring her experience. This time they have a planned C section “for late November”, they know a date but didn’t specify so I didn’t ask. (Should I? Don’t want to be called intrusive).

There’s also the issue of how often they see DIL’s parents. My son can work from home, so they go to her mum and dad’s for days at a time. Meanwhile I get one day visit per month. I travel to them, and I don’t stay overnight because it’s never been offered or suggested. I’ve tried not to take it personally and have never said anything, but it’s hard not to notice the difference.

And when it comes to childcare, it feels even more lopsided. My granddaughter is often left with their nanny or with DIL’s mum but never with me. I’ve been told by DIL because with a nanny “it feels easier” in that it’s a paid service — you pay the nanny and no one owes each other anything at the end. I can understand the logic, but it’s painful to feel that a hired professional is seen as less complicated and more trustworthy than the child’s own grandmother.

And I know (again, through my other child) that DIL is uncomfortable with my son ever taking GD to stay with me overnight because she’s never been away from the child overnight and “it would upset both her and the child.” So I’m left feeling like I’m some sort of risk or stranger, even though I’m her grandmother. My son isn’t allowed to go without her (or he risks upsetting his wife which understandably he doesn’t want to do, esp I ally pregnant) and she doesn’t want to come. They’ve been here 3 times total.

Communication is becoming another minefield. I want to keep the group chat warm and friendly, but I’m increasingly aware that asking for a photo of GD or sending a picture of my garden or something I’m doing seems to irritate her. If I message, I feel annoying; if I don’t, I feel distant. I can’t seem to get it right.

And is there anything I can do to rebuild things when I seem to get everything wrong no matter how careful I try to be?

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Gloriia · 14/11/2025 15:34

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/11/2025 14:47

She doesn't. Because it's OP's interpretation of DD's interpretation of DS's interpretation of what she may have said.

The chances of it being what she ACTUALLY said are zero.

It doesn't matter who said what to whom, the dil's actions speak for themselves.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/11/2025 15:38

Gloriia · 14/11/2025 15:34

It doesn't matter who said what to whom, the dil's actions speak for themselves.

They would... if you knew exactly what they were.

You don't, I don't, the OP doesn't. We ONLY have 3rd/4th hand reports.

Christ, it's like Perspectives 101 on this thread.

Digdongdoo · 14/11/2025 15:40

Gloriia · 14/11/2025 15:34

It doesn't matter who said what to whom, the dil's actions speak for themselves.

I'm still not exactly sure what DIL has done wrong. There's mean some relatively minor complaining, that OP has heard second hand. And her DS isn't visiting/inviting her over enough. Which actions are you referring to?

Gloriia · 14/11/2025 15:44

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/11/2025 15:38

They would... if you knew exactly what they were.

You don't, I don't, the OP doesn't. We ONLY have 3rd/4th hand reports.

Christ, it's like Perspectives 101 on this thread.

I think the op knows she only gets to see them monthly if she goes to visit. She also knows they don't visit her? There arent any '3rd/4th hand reports'required to establish these facts. I think she also knows she doesn't get to babysit.

I mean none of us know anything on a chat site, it isn't a court of law so evidence is not required. People canvas opinions by posting some scenarios that they've experienced.

Perspectives 101?

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/11/2025 15:47

Digdongdoo · 14/11/2025 15:40

I'm still not exactly sure what DIL has done wrong. There's mean some relatively minor complaining, that OP has heard second hand. And her DS isn't visiting/inviting her over enough. Which actions are you referring to?

I'd add on the complaining front that WITHOUT A DOUBT my mum friends and I complain equally about our own parents as we do our in laws. But we don't complain to our ILs (we do carp at our own parents with varying degrees of reasonableness).

MIL also clearly has had a few grumbles about me to her friend, because her friend made a few digs at me about things she couldn't possibly have heard otherwise. MIL has every right to have a private grumble about me behind my back, although I'd rather she didn't bring her graceless friends to my house.

This is why MIL/DIL relationships go wrong. I don't know anyone who doesn't have a grumble about their own parents one way or another, yet it's assumed everything is hunky dory!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 14/11/2025 15:51

Gloriia · 14/11/2025 15:44

I think the op knows she only gets to see them monthly if she goes to visit. She also knows they don't visit her? There arent any '3rd/4th hand reports'required to establish these facts. I think she also knows she doesn't get to babysit.

I mean none of us know anything on a chat site, it isn't a court of law so evidence is not required. People canvas opinions by posting some scenarios that they've experienced.

Perspectives 101?

Right, and are those the actions of the DIL, or the outcomes of any known number of situations/discussions between the two of them?

It's not a court of law, no, but if you make a blanket statement, I don't have to wait until the defense rests etc to respond.

Again, my point isn't to say who's bad/wrong - although I actually do think it would help the OP to not try to characterized it as right/wrong, and to understand why the situation won't be entirely as she sees it.

It's not cheerleading her feelings, I'm afraid, but if she wants to stop feeling that way, it's probably more actually helpful if she's willing to engage.

Franpie · 14/11/2025 20:37

Mums and babies/toddlers come as a package. You don’t get much access to the baby/toddler if you haven’t put the effort into creating a good bond with the mum.

It’s that simple. By OP’s own admission, she’s not spent much time with DIL before kids came along, therefore the current situation is hardly surprising.

Unless OP focuses on her and her DIL’s relationship and building that on a personal 1-2-1 level then nothing will change.

Failing that, OP will need to wait until the GC are old enough to form their own relationships with her.

croydon15 · 14/11/2025 21:04

I would say that you sound very nice and done nothing wrong but unfortunately you don't have a considerable DIL.
You don't want to cause an argument between your DS and DIL but will need at some stage to let your DS know how you feel. Most men want an easy life and let the woman decide which side of the family to see/entertain.

BruFord · 14/11/2025 21:10

Franpie · 14/11/2025 20:37

Mums and babies/toddlers come as a package. You don’t get much access to the baby/toddler if you haven’t put the effort into creating a good bond with the mum.

It’s that simple. By OP’s own admission, she’s not spent much time with DIL before kids came along, therefore the current situation is hardly surprising.

Unless OP focuses on her and her DIL’s relationship and building that on a personal 1-2-1 level then nothing will change.

Failing that, OP will need to wait until the GC are old enough to form their own relationships with her.

@Franpie I agree when they’re babies but toddlers/preschoolers do things independently with their Dads-mine did anyway.

A new baby is time-consuming so it might be nice for her son to bring the toddler to see their Grandma.

winnieanddaisy · 14/11/2025 21:40

If this was me I would try not to take it to heart. Your time will come . My youngest son is divorced and his children are a hundred miles away. He doesn’t have contact with them but they still have a loving relationship with me even though I only see them about once a year. They are late teens now and are able to make their own contact with me .
on the other hand my eldest son lives very close to me but his wife was the same when she had their babies . Her mum was everything to them and I was very rarely asked to have them . I wasn’t at all bothered at the time . Unfortunately DIL mum died of cancer when the children were still small and I was asked to do all the care they needed due to their work .
I am now very close to all of my grandchildren.

PithyTaupeWriter · 15/11/2025 08:16

croydon15 · 14/11/2025 21:04

I would say that you sound very nice and done nothing wrong but unfortunately you don't have a considerable DIL.
You don't want to cause an argument between your DS and DIL but will need at some stage to let your DS know how you feel. Most men want an easy life and let the woman decide which side of the family to see/entertain.

Yes, most men are lazy and leave it to their wives to organise things. Then the wives get the blame for not being able to keep everyone happy.
I would love an easy life too, but things need to be done and I’m not lazy.

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