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Am I a complete weirdo for contemplating moving to America?

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Frinkleg · 12/11/2025 20:57

It’s always been an option as dh is a pilot. He’s spoken to an airline out there and would be able to secure a job with 3x the salary. We would actually be able to feel a little bit more than just comfortable.

I actually really do love the UK. I enjoy village life, British holidays, Brits are just funnier etc.

But the money is just too much of a head turner.

We could afford a gorgeous home in Connecticut with a pool.

We spend a lot of time in the states but only as holidaymakers. It would certainly be an adjustment.

of course I fear guns, American politics re female rights, I’m by no means pro Trump. The ICE raids are horrific. But we’d have some bloody money. And a nice house.

I can’t imagine the US ever feeling like home that’s the only thing.

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CraftyGin · 14/11/2025 20:16

ForeverScout · 14/11/2025 20:12

It's not as complex if you are compliant, and have sane finances / your tax jurisdictions match up well. It's a minefield if you're not compliant or have structures in your other country the US doesn't recognize.

I've met so many people - green card holders included - who believe their obligations end when they leave the US and no longer earn US money. That is not the case. Again it's just something for OP to be aware of.

Why wouldn't you be compliant?

FunkyMonks · 14/11/2025 20:19

Go for it Op worse that happens is you don’t like it and you can come back to UK.
We are looking to move to Canada from the UK ourselves and yes we know certain parts of Canada have issues what country doesn’t at the moment but my attitude is id rather give something a try than to be too old and unable to and have so many regrets of never having given Canada a go because I was worried about the what ifs.

ForeverScout · 14/11/2025 20:25

CraftyGin · 14/11/2025 20:16

Why wouldn't you be compliant?

As I've already said, the IRS fully admits they do not make people aware of their obligations. The majority of US expats - and especially those who are citizens but raised outside the US - as well as accidentals (people who don't know they're US citizens, usually those born to foreigners on US soil), and a large number of green card holders - have no idea they are required to file taxes (whether they owe anything or not) or FBARs when they don't live in the US, or earn money in the US. You can't comply with what you don't know, and no other country in the world operates like this so why would you even suspect this is the case?

It is very very common for US expats to be unintentionally out of compliance. And horrifying to find out the potential consequences. There is a specific pathway provided for compliance because the IRS knows this is a problem, but if they get to you first all bets are off. Huge fines even for accidental non-compliance. In those scenarios I wouldn't recommend DIY taxes until you have received proper advice from a specialist and come into compliance correctly.

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 14/11/2025 21:09

CraftyGin · 14/11/2025 20:06

The FBAR penalties are ridiculous, but the filing is no more complicated than the old report of foreign bank accounts.

My DCs all do their FBARs although I think DH has to remind them each year. The boys managed to neglect their Select Service registration and have now aged out.

One piece of tax advice I would give, is not for both of you to get citizenship if you ever plan to return to the UK. I did not do this and am now the happy recipient of all DH's retirement money. It's my running away fund (you'll find me in Portofino).

Can you explain more about the non-citizen and retirement money thing?

mathanxiety · 15/11/2025 05:38

Empress13 · 14/11/2025 06:05

Money doesn’t buy happiness and the grass is not always greener on the other side. Any country that allows guns with no free healthcare is a No for me

There is free healthcare. Medicaid and Medicare are free. (People on this thread seem not to be aware of the existence of Medicaid).

Jigglyhuffpuff · 15/11/2025 05:48

They can't make tea

I think that tells you what the right thing to do is.

ByCyanMoose · 15/11/2025 06:29

mathanxiety · 15/11/2025 05:38

There is free healthcare. Medicaid and Medicare are free. (People on this thread seem not to be aware of the existence of Medicaid).

Medicaid is very much an option of last resort, and not comparable to Medicare or the NHS. It covers the bare minimum at best, and huge numbers of providers in the US won’t accept it at all.

SoftBalletShoes · 15/11/2025 08:54

Jigglyhuffpuff · 15/11/2025 05:48

They can't make tea

I think that tells you what the right thing to do is.

🤭🤭😂😂😂 I've lived in the US for 18.5 years, and this I concur with! It gets worse than that, though. THEY PUT CREAM IN TEA!!!!!

SoftBalletShoes · 15/11/2025 08:58

CraftyGin · 14/11/2025 17:40

You've been taking the tablets

I have? I'm British and lived in Britain until I was 32, and then moved to America for lurrrve. I've now lived in America for 18.5 years. So I know both countries pretty well having lived for many years in each, and can compare and contrast!

Boomer55 · 15/11/2025 09:08

My son married an America winsn and emigrated there 15 years ago. It’s hard to get work at first (although it sounds as though your DH has a job lined up), but you’ll need to get a green card.

My son loves his life out there - far better standard of living, house etc than he’d have here.

But, it’s quite different from Britain and takes a period of adjustment.

He’s kept his British citizenship, so he can’t vote out there, and doesn't really get involved in much of the politics.

Make sure you all have “bells and whistles” health insurance. Medicaid is pretty poor.

And the weather can be extreme in certain states (compared to over here).

Good luck if you decide to go.

EasternStandard · 15/11/2025 09:10

I don’t think so. Il sure it’s good in many ways. My personal fear would be school shootings, although maybe someone can reassure you in some way. Perhaps where you’re going it’s lower risk idk

Limth · 15/11/2025 09:10

If I had that opportunity, you wouldn't see me for dust. You can always come back.

Bipitybopitybo · 15/11/2025 09:57

EasternStandard · 15/11/2025 09:10

I don’t think so. Il sure it’s good in many ways. My personal fear would be school shootings, although maybe someone can reassure you in some way. Perhaps where you’re going it’s lower risk idk

Edited

CT is very low risk for school shootings.

but Sandy Hook still happened

HappyGolmore2 · 16/11/2025 16:35

mathanxiety · 15/11/2025 05:38

There is free healthcare. Medicaid and Medicare are free. (People on this thread seem not to be aware of the existence of Medicaid).

The Medicaid and Medicare that doesn’t pay for shit and is being cut by the Republicans and is denied to millions of Americans … that ‘free’ healthcare?

Thesnappyone · 16/11/2025 16:50

I have family that live in Conneticut and I have lspent alot of time there. The earni gs are so much higher because the cost of living is so much higher. CT is one of the most expensice states for almost everything. Hpusing cheaper than UK but obviously factor out the higher wages the huge costs. You may get free healtjcare from his job but if you dont but if not these costs are crippling. My uncle (US citixen) had a basic chest infection when we visited once and his bill for gp and checks was over 1k and the antibiotics over 200 more dollars. Uk its a 10 quid prescription. There versipn of council tax was almost a month what we pay a year in UK thats why when you call the police 10 cars arrive though! The regualrly want to come back to UK or another country and also so unhappy with the way USA is going. Its not all rosey

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 16/11/2025 17:18

Thesnappyone · 16/11/2025 16:50

I have family that live in Conneticut and I have lspent alot of time there. The earni gs are so much higher because the cost of living is so much higher. CT is one of the most expensice states for almost everything. Hpusing cheaper than UK but obviously factor out the higher wages the huge costs. You may get free healtjcare from his job but if you dont but if not these costs are crippling. My uncle (US citixen) had a basic chest infection when we visited once and his bill for gp and checks was over 1k and the antibiotics over 200 more dollars. Uk its a 10 quid prescription. There versipn of council tax was almost a month what we pay a year in UK thats why when you call the police 10 cars arrive though! The regualrly want to come back to UK or another country and also so unhappy with the way USA is going. Its not all rosey

This with bells on.

mathanxiety · 16/11/2025 18:40

HappyGolmore2 · 16/11/2025 16:35

The Medicaid and Medicare that doesn’t pay for shit and is being cut by the Republicans and is denied to millions of Americans … that ‘free’ healthcare?

I had two of my DCs on Medicaid and it paid for everything - prenatal care, hospital care and all services for me and babies, and all follow up visits for me and babies. When I say 'hospital care and services' I include the services of my obstetrician in one case and midwife in the other, the anesthesiologists, the neonatal pediatrician and neonatal care, and all the supplies that came with the private rooms with ensuite that I occupied. I received exactly the same level of care I had received with my other pregnancies and deliveries that were paid for by private health insurance, in the same hospital, and by the same doctor/ midwife.

I have a friend whose entire breast cancer treatment was paid for by Medicaid - her initial mammogram, her ultrasound and biopsy, all her initial blood tests and lab work throughout treatment, an MRI, injection of dye, lumpectomy, transport to and home from hospital on her lumpectomy surgery day and her port insertion procedure (and later removal), and to and from all her chemo appointments (I was able to drive her for these so she didn't use that free transport). All of her chemo drugs were covered, including a more expensive alternative to the initial drug as she had an adverse reaction to it. She had the services of a nurse navigator who dealt with all coverage matters and made all her appointments for her, and was available constantly for any questions she had. A dietician was also available, completely free of charge. These servics were available throughout her whole post chemo treatment too - follow up mammograms for four years now, estrogen inhibiting medication, and free bras with silicone inserts, covered every year, to equalise the size of her boobs, from a specialist bra shop.

Hopefully the GOP will get their asses handed to them on a plate at the 2026 midterms and funding can then be restored.

Noneofus · 16/11/2025 20:49

BunnyLake · 13/11/2025 21:36

What about if you have private healthcare in the uk? Like for like. You can’t compare private health to national health.

No. You can’t compare UK private health insurance to USA. UK private health system is nowhere near as comprehensive.

It Is appropriate to compare NHS to USA private health insurance as these are the dominate health systems for the population in their respective countries. Decades ago I thought our NHS health system was much superior. I don’t anymore, at least not for those in the USA who have decent private health insurance.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 00:39

Noneofus · 16/11/2025 20:49

No. You can’t compare UK private health insurance to USA. UK private health system is nowhere near as comprehensive.

It Is appropriate to compare NHS to USA private health insurance as these are the dominate health systems for the population in their respective countries. Decades ago I thought our NHS health system was much superior. I don’t anymore, at least not for those in the USA who have decent private health insurance.

This is absolutely true. I was thinking of moving back to the UK, and I looked into what private healthcare covers and the cost. I was very surprised to learn that so many things aren't covered by UK private insurance. You can't replace US private health insurance with it at all.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 01:30

queenofarles · 13/11/2025 11:59

Do Americans really think nothing wrong in not having free healthcare ? while the rest of us can’t comprehend why certain groups in the US are in constant danger of losing their insurance , The majority of Americans seem to think it’s fine and it’s actually the fault of those individuals for not working harder not finding a job or not being paid enough.
it’s a broken system.

They're afraid that if they have free public healthcare, the quality will drop off a cliff. You might have to pay for healthcare in the US - although most get it heavily subsidised by their employer - but the actual care itself is absolutely fantastic, and they're loathe to potentially give that up. And they read the scare stories about the NHS.

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 01:37

queenofarles · 13/11/2025 09:45

New England is lovely , and definitely a place id like to spend time in , So many charming historic towns and beautiful houses.
that being said, and although All these states are blue , I’d be so wary to move right now, nothing sounds right, this has been the longest government shutdown yet, even Aviation sector felt the ripple.
I just couldn’t live in a country with long lines of federal employees at food banks or children, elderly and disabled without food Aid program, and to think this could happen every year and there are people ok with it is beyond my comprehension .

The US child poverty rate is about 16%, compared with 31% of UK children. Google it.

Italiangreyhound · 17/11/2025 01:41

Just check the legal situation re kids if after a couple of years you want to come 'home' to the UK and he doesn't.

Italiangreyhound · 17/11/2025 01:41

Just check the legal situation re kids if after a couple of years you want to come 'home' to the UK and he doesn't.

StandFirm · 18/11/2025 08:50

mathanxiety · 16/11/2025 18:40

I had two of my DCs on Medicaid and it paid for everything - prenatal care, hospital care and all services for me and babies, and all follow up visits for me and babies. When I say 'hospital care and services' I include the services of my obstetrician in one case and midwife in the other, the anesthesiologists, the neonatal pediatrician and neonatal care, and all the supplies that came with the private rooms with ensuite that I occupied. I received exactly the same level of care I had received with my other pregnancies and deliveries that were paid for by private health insurance, in the same hospital, and by the same doctor/ midwife.

I have a friend whose entire breast cancer treatment was paid for by Medicaid - her initial mammogram, her ultrasound and biopsy, all her initial blood tests and lab work throughout treatment, an MRI, injection of dye, lumpectomy, transport to and home from hospital on her lumpectomy surgery day and her port insertion procedure (and later removal), and to and from all her chemo appointments (I was able to drive her for these so she didn't use that free transport). All of her chemo drugs were covered, including a more expensive alternative to the initial drug as she had an adverse reaction to it. She had the services of a nurse navigator who dealt with all coverage matters and made all her appointments for her, and was available constantly for any questions she had. A dietician was also available, completely free of charge. These servics were available throughout her whole post chemo treatment too - follow up mammograms for four years now, estrogen inhibiting medication, and free bras with silicone inserts, covered every year, to equalise the size of her boobs, from a specialist bra shop.

Hopefully the GOP will get their asses handed to them on a plate at the 2026 midterms and funding can then be restored.

Yes, hopefully the GOP will stop behaving like a cartel in thrall to their boss.

DdraigGoch · 18/11/2025 16:03

SoftBalletShoes · 17/11/2025 01:37

The US child poverty rate is about 16%, compared with 31% of UK children. Google it.

You can't just take a couple of figures from Google and compare them. How does each country measure child poverty? How is it defined?

Here is a (dated) example of statistics that can be compared:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/sep/11/child-poverty-statistics-uk-countries

Note how the US was worse than the UK in four out of the five measures.

Another study says 12.4% of British children vs 21.2% of American children.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/264424/child-poverty-in-oecd-countries/

Another one has the US at 14.0 and the UK at 12.7
www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/poverty-rate.html

Child poverty statistics: how the UK compares to other countries

Amelia Gentleman: Why does Britain do so badly in eradicating child poverty?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/sep/11/child-poverty-statistics-uk-countries