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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:08

It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose.

You're talking utter bollocks OP.

The amount of hyperbole on threads recently is ridiculous. I don't know if it's an influx of posters with poor critical thinking skills or people deliberately trying to stir up division. Possibly a mix of both.

EmeraldRoulette · 09/11/2025 20:08

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools I agree but I've thought this for years.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:09

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:03

Because the other 99.9% of BBC output is untainted?

Demonstrably that is not true. Their coverage of Trump is defect untrustworthy, all of their coverage of gender issues is demonstrably exceptionally biased and their position on the Israel / Palestine conflict was plain to see.

All parts of their output are viewed through these lenses and more - they force their specific niche liberal political views on the country without even asking us and in fact swearing blind they are not - and they are balanced and non biased.

We have concrete proof they lied. again and again and again - and so nothing they say is worth anything. They must go.

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Pleasealexa · 09/11/2025 20:10

It's with sadness and shock that I think the Beeb has to go.

Sometimes an organisation becomes so toxic that a change of Head isn't enough. Two people have gone, from 21,000 employees and it's unlikely they can change the culture as bias has built up over many, many years. Let's assume that there are approx 2000-3000 managers who were appointed/promoted because of their views - they will still be there actively promoting their bias

If this was a public listed company, it's shares would have tanked. Individuals pay to keep the BBC afloat and they have treated their "shareholders" with contempt.

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 20:10

borntobequiet · 09/11/2025 19:56

Up until fairly recently I valued the BBC. I’ve listened to it and watched it for many decades and defended it despite its many faults. But just the other day I cancelled payments for my licence, and I shall learn to do without it, even the better bits of Radio 4.

You can listen to the radio, I get it might be a principle thing.

Changingplace · 09/11/2025 20:10

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:08

It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose.

You're talking utter bollocks OP.

The amount of hyperbole on threads recently is ridiculous. I don't know if it's an influx of posters with poor critical thinking skills or people deliberately trying to stir up division. Possibly a mix of both.

You think it’s ok that the BBC is editing footage to intentionally mislead the audience?

I’m a huge supporter of the BBC as standard but this is appalling.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:10

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:08

It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose.

You're talking utter bollocks OP.

The amount of hyperbole on threads recently is ridiculous. I don't know if it's an influx of posters with poor critical thinking skills or people deliberately trying to stir up division. Possibly a mix of both.

The proof is literally in the links provided. They are unfit to be the voice of the nation.

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KTheGrey · 09/11/2025 20:12

It is too big. The people at the top have no idea about all the different bits and pieces and moving parts and that’s a problem.

They should get rid of anybody with any open political bias or agenda in the BBC and all the posh knob heads and everybody signs up to the impartiality charter. Breaking it should be an instant sacking offence. Use the money from any separately constituted BBC sections like BBC Films and Worldwide to finance BBC main and put a cap on salaries.

Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:13

But the radio is free without the licence fee - you can still listen to anything decent on there!

Yes but BBC radio and website are funded by people paying the TV licence fee. Not much of a boycott if you're happy to continue consuming the parts other people are funding.

SpottyAardvark · 09/11/2025 20:14

YANBU.

I have always stuck up for the BBC, and been happy to pay my licence fee, but I’m done. They have betrayed their audience’s trust too many times. They treat anyone who doesn’t sign up to every liberal identity politics fad with contempt. On top of that, two former BBC presenters Russell Brand & Tim Westwood will be tried for rape in the next few months.

The BBC is out of touch, complacent & arrogant. It has only itself to blame for what happens next.

EasternStandard · 09/11/2025 20:16

KTheGrey · 09/11/2025 20:12

It is too big. The people at the top have no idea about all the different bits and pieces and moving parts and that’s a problem.

They should get rid of anybody with any open political bias or agenda in the BBC and all the posh knob heads and everybody signs up to the impartiality charter. Breaking it should be an instant sacking offence. Use the money from any separately constituted BBC sections like BBC Films and Worldwide to finance BBC main and put a cap on salaries.

I’m not surprised. I went to a talk recently from a top BBC journo and his bias was proudly there.

Bringemout · 09/11/2025 20:17

Either you are a neutral broadcaster who are fact oriented or you are not. If you don’t want to be then fine you shouldn’t receive funding by the taxpayer. They had to issue constant corrections on Gaza (whatever you think of the war, information should be as accurate as possible). They had some sort of censorship on gender critical thoughts, they provided unbalanced coverage of american politics and lets be honest the splicing was about telling a story (I’m no fan of trump but I would have though the shit he actually says is bad enough).

Michael Prescotts report is pretty damning tbh, it’s a bloody mess.

Pleasealexa · 09/11/2025 20:18

The people at the top have no idea about all the different bits and pieces and moving parts and that’s a problem

I believe the opposite. The BBC chair was on the TV attempting to defend the Trump scandal...it was a "misstep".

Bringemout · 09/11/2025 20:18

Scrap it, I don’t want to pay for a service that tries to discipline a woman for an eyeroll.

Bollihobs · 09/11/2025 20:18

KateShugakIsALegend · 09/11/2025 19:49

Oh, give over.

Seriously? You genuinely think what they did with the Trump speech was fine?

If you can leave aside any bias you may have (just guessing here) against Trump you are honestly saying that cutting and pasting his words to alter the meaning is OK?

CrocsNotDocs · 09/11/2025 20:19

I am delighted to see this happen to the disgraceful BBC. In Australia, we have an almost identical situation with our national broadcaster, the ABC. Completely beholden to gender ideology and disgracefully biased in their Middle East and North American coverage. They use pet experts who spout unchallenged shite and never offer fair counterbalance.

It’s not just the ideological bent of these organisations, it’s the major stories they leave out if it goes against the party line. I don’t have direct experience but understand the Canadian Broadcasting Commission behaves in a similar manner.

One of my friends genuinely still believes that Israel blew up the al-Ahli Hospital
in Gaza in 2023 because the ABC Australia reporter said so and they are trustworthy. That reporter never corrected his story and there would be countless examples of this.

The BBC and ABC have been utterly appalling in their gender ideology “coverage”. It is the biggest medical scandal in history and, while other media have been gradually developing a bit of curiosity, they have actively suppressed and ignored stories.

wiffin · 09/11/2025 20:20

An impartial news broadcaster will always be derided by left and right. Because it is a mouth piece for neither.

This example does look shocking. But I will defend the BBC all the way. We lose it, we will never get it back. Then it's divisive politics and divisive news as per US. No thank you.

And to suggest they only do news...seriously. they are expected to produce more than news for a whole host of reasons. Not least of which is to make money, reducing the charge. No government will fund a wholly news broadcaster which may well criticise them. Especially the new breed of politicians intolerant to criticism.

CraftandGlamour · 09/11/2025 20:22

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:59

I could not agree more. The UK DOES need an independent (from government fiddling) news, politics, documentaries, children's programming etc broadcaster.

The UK does not need an independent broadcaster that makes dramas, soap operas, films and all the rest. We already have dozens of those, and frankly they are better.

The UK does not need the BBC as it stands. It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose. It must be entirely disbanded and replaced (my preferred option) or have the licence fee, taken away.

I agree with this. It needs to go back to first principles. But I'm not sure it can. Anybody good has already gone.

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:23

Bollihobs · 09/11/2025 20:18

Seriously? You genuinely think what they did with the Trump speech was fine?

If you can leave aside any bias you may have (just guessing here) against Trump you are honestly saying that cutting and pasting his words to alter the meaning is OK?

They didn't alter the meaning though. Trump said what he meant and he meant what he said. I do agree that it didn't need to be edited that way though - getting the meaning across with a break and a voiceover indicating transition to the end of the speech would have done.

However, pulling antisemitism into this whole mix tells me that there are many posters on this thread who have their own biases, and who don't really care much about the wholesale killing of children. Criticising Israel for its actions is not and never will be antisemitic.

CommanderTaggart · 09/11/2025 20:23

I want to BBC to do better.
I do not want to see it ended as a public broadcaster.
Talk about baby and bathwater.
I suspect you have your own axe to grind / ulterior motive.
Who stands to gain from privatised media? 🤔
YABVU.

Bloozie · 09/11/2025 20:24

Catch a breath. The news arm needs an editorial overhaul. The resignations are right and good. Lessons need to be learned.

Can the whole lot? That’s your GBeebies coming out.

KTheGrey · 09/11/2025 20:24

Pleasealexa · 09/11/2025 20:18

The people at the top have no idea about all the different bits and pieces and moving parts and that’s a problem

I believe the opposite. The BBC chair was on the TV attempting to defend the Trump scandal...it was a "misstep".

Do you think anybody at the top had any clue about Bob Vylan’s usual set? Because I would expect the scouts at the BBC to have gone to see them before broadcasting them, but not Tim Davie.

SpaceRaccoon · 09/11/2025 20:25

Yep. Then there was that Gaza documentary. And BBC Arabic has just been found to have spent the last two years broadcasting Hamas propaganda.

GaIadriel · 09/11/2025 20:26

Editing somebody's speech to make it look like they said something else is pretty bad tbh. Like, imagine if they showed JKR apparently saying something extremely prejudiced against trans people which she didn't actually say. Where would they draw the line if not challenged and is this even the first time?