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The BBC should lose the license fee and be forced to operate like any other streaming service after the complete destruction of trust this week

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:44

Thats it really, the BBC lied to us, all of us.

They edited a Trump speech to make him look like he said something he did not.

They pushed one side of the transgender debate relentlessly, deliberately hiding negative stories on detransitioners, the US WPATH file and thousands of more cases

https://archive.ph/wWdMS

https://archive.ph/uiEKW

They have cancelled people for wrong-think at every opportunity, pushed drag queens over women, turned woman hours into mens hour, constantly attacked anyone who does not share their extreme liberal left wing views and kept them off the news cycle

They have utterly and completely lost all trust, they ARE biased they DON'T give balance in the news

Everyone thought it was a conspiracy, now we know it's actually true and we have PROOF

Today the BBC Director and News Director have both quit in absolute disgrace.

It is time the BBC was consigned to the dustbin because we are never getting back to the BBC I loved and trusted, the one that ran programmes to inform and entertain and educate, that BBC is long gone.

Replace it, completely.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

BBC director general Tim Davie and News CEO Deborah Turness resign - live updates

Davie says "there have been some mistakes made and as director general I have to take ultimate responsibility".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

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TheShed7 · 09/11/2025 19:45

Ok..... Thanks for that.

HoppityBun · 09/11/2025 19:47

I agree. With sadness

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/11/2025 19:48

I want a strong, independent national broadcaster.

They need to do some soul searching.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:49

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/11/2025 19:48

I want a strong, independent national broadcaster.

They need to do some soul searching.

We absolutely do. One we can trust. One to bring the nation together and allow the full range of opinions and politics in the country, one that respects everyone.

We don't have that now.

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KateShugakIsALegend · 09/11/2025 19:49

Oh, give over.

Nigellastwinklylights · 09/11/2025 19:50

Here we go…

TheKeatingFive · 09/11/2025 19:51

I think there is value in an independent, public broadcaster.

But it only works if it genuinely delivers on the highest of journalistic standards.

It needs serious reform.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:51

KateShugakIsALegend · 09/11/2025 19:49

Oh, give over.

Do tell us why the BBC should be allowed to operate given what has happened this week? So bad the director general and head of news literally resigned 10 minutes ago?

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DisappearingGirl · 09/11/2025 19:52

I agree the Trump thing was bad, and the coverage of the trans issue wasn't great (but has been getting more balanced recently I think).

But I also think, be careful what you wish for. I'd rather have the Beeb than a choice between Netflix or Farage News ...

borntobequiet · 09/11/2025 19:56

Up until fairly recently I valued the BBC. I’ve listened to it and watched it for many decades and defended it despite its many faults. But just the other day I cancelled payments for my licence, and I shall learn to do without it, even the better bits of Radio 4.

Nobodytouchmywine · 09/11/2025 19:57

Nothing new there really, SKY news and ITV will follow the suit in foreseeable future. They are all corrupted.

LivingTheDreamish · 09/11/2025 19:58

I absolutely agree with the appalling bias in news reporting (especially the strong anti-Semitic tone) and all its other transgressions (that nonsense over pregnant people) and I'm glad it came to a head today with the resignations. I would hope the BBC can rebuild from here because I'm not ready to be without them. The whole point of the BBC is that as the national broadcaster it is supposed to be staunchly neutral. It's not (currently) but we can at least expect and demand that of the beeb.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:59

TheKeatingFive · 09/11/2025 19:51

I think there is value in an independent, public broadcaster.

But it only works if it genuinely delivers on the highest of journalistic standards.

It needs serious reform.

I could not agree more. The UK DOES need an independent (from government fiddling) news, politics, documentaries, children's programming etc broadcaster.

The UK does not need an independent broadcaster that makes dramas, soap operas, films and all the rest. We already have dozens of those, and frankly they are better.

The UK does not need the BBC as it stands. It has been proven to be utterly unfit for purpose. It must be entirely disbanded and replaced (my preferred option) or have the licence fee, taken away.

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Whatabouterytoutery · 09/11/2025 19:59

TheKeatingFive · 09/11/2025 19:51

I think there is value in an independent, public broadcaster.

But it only works if it genuinely delivers on the highest of journalistic standards.

It needs serious reform.

This and other broadcasters I hope you are watching.

HoppityBun · 09/11/2025 20:00

borntobequiet · 09/11/2025 19:56

Up until fairly recently I valued the BBC. I’ve listened to it and watched it for many decades and defended it despite its many faults. But just the other day I cancelled payments for my licence, and I shall learn to do without it, even the better bits of Radio 4.

But the licence is only for the TV. I only had a TV for a few years, at the beginning of the C20. But I listen to the radio. I think there used to be a radio licence, but not for a very long time

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 20:01

HoppityBun · 09/11/2025 20:00

But the licence is only for the TV. I only had a TV for a few years, at the beginning of the C20. But I listen to the radio. I think there used to be a radio licence, but not for a very long time

BBC radio outside of the UK, delivered as podcasts, are supported by adverts (in fact just like all the other podcasts I listen to are). If they cannot stand on their own feet financially, thats their problem.

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Plexie · 09/11/2025 20:03

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/11/2025 19:51

Do tell us why the BBC should be allowed to operate given what has happened this week? So bad the director general and head of news literally resigned 10 minutes ago?

Because the other 99.9% of BBC output is untainted?

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:03

Anyone who thinks Trump wasn't inciting his followers to storm the Capitol has an issue.

Editing Panorama that way was bad. But it isn't as if Trump didn't say what he was accused of saying.

Personally I don't trust the BBC - but that's because they're in the pockets of the right.

KTheGrey · 09/11/2025 20:03

borntobequiet · 09/11/2025 19:56

Up until fairly recently I valued the BBC. I’ve listened to it and watched it for many decades and defended it despite its many faults. But just the other day I cancelled payments for my licence, and I shall learn to do without it, even the better bits of Radio 4.

But the radio is free without the licence fee - you can still listen to anything decent on there!

Changingplace · 09/11/2025 20:04

It’s with sadness that I completely agree, splicing that Trump clip together changes the meaning of it significantly and intentionally misleads the audience.

It goes against everything that the BBC should stand for, and I’m astounded that the Panorama team thought this was ok, and why it’s taken so long for this to come to light.

It’s reputationally incredibly bad for BBC news as a brand, it calls everything into question.

It’s terrible timing with the licence fee charter negotiations with government, but such is life, I can only hope that whoever comes in can use this as a clean slate.

StrongLikeMamma · 09/11/2025 20:04

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:03

Anyone who thinks Trump wasn't inciting his followers to storm the Capitol has an issue.

Editing Panorama that way was bad. But it isn't as if Trump didn't say what he was accused of saying.

Personally I don't trust the BBC - but that's because they're in the pockets of the right.

Hmm but yet the right say they’re in the pockets of the left…

StrongLikeMamma · 09/11/2025 20:05

LivingTheDreamish · 09/11/2025 19:58

I absolutely agree with the appalling bias in news reporting (especially the strong anti-Semitic tone) and all its other transgressions (that nonsense over pregnant people) and I'm glad it came to a head today with the resignations. I would hope the BBC can rebuild from here because I'm not ready to be without them. The whole point of the BBC is that as the national broadcaster it is supposed to be staunchly neutral. It's not (currently) but we can at least expect and demand that of the beeb.

They are not antisemitic

Notmymarmosets · 09/11/2025 20:06

Good. Tim Davie has resigned. Too little too late?

Changingplace · 09/11/2025 20:07

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:03

Anyone who thinks Trump wasn't inciting his followers to storm the Capitol has an issue.

Editing Panorama that way was bad. But it isn't as if Trump didn't say what he was accused of saying.

Personally I don't trust the BBC - but that's because they're in the pockets of the right.

It should’ve been edited to make it clear that wasn’t one line in the speech.

I’m no fan of Trump, and there’s very little of his politics I agree with, but this walks right into giving the White House the opportunity to brand the BBC fake news, it’s just irresponsible journalism and the BBC should do better.

Someone will be along in a sec to say they’re too left leaning not right so I do think they generally fall in the middle.

TheKeatingFive · 09/11/2025 20:07

pointythings · 09/11/2025 20:03

Anyone who thinks Trump wasn't inciting his followers to storm the Capitol has an issue.

Editing Panorama that way was bad. But it isn't as if Trump didn't say what he was accused of saying.

Personally I don't trust the BBC - but that's because they're in the pockets of the right.

This isn't the point.

Journalists working for the national broadcaster cannot be editing material in a way that changes its meaning for the audience. It's not acceptable.

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