Birmingham attack gone quiet ?!

[AlwaysHopefull89]

correct me if I have missed anything here on this… but has the news gone quiet on the woman who was attacked unprovoked in Birmingham? Do we know who done it?!

Absolutely appalling crime committed. Suspect person swiftly arrested. Plenty to see here-but nothing for the ?! community.

And who are the ? community?

If you want to see first hand what years of eroding mental health services looks like on the ground, wander around outside New St Station in Birmingham. I live here and my first thought was MH.

Why does ‘Mental Health’ involve stabbing people? I have a diagnosed condition due to past trauma and I do not stab people as a result. For me it feels like an excuse and a way of getting people to move on. Nothing to see here.

The “?!” community. People who pretend to be simply asking for information on a potentially sensitive topic, but are obviously being disingenuous.

That phrase is doing a lot of heavy lifting these days.

MH conditions are varied, as you know. A MH condition can sometimes (rarely) result in the sufferer hurting other people because the sufferer has an altered version of reality. Sometimes people in a MH crisis get sectioned and their freedom removed until they are better, because they are a risk to others.

There is not 'nothing to see here' if MH is the cause. Years of systematic failure in our health service is a disgrace.

Troll hunting - prescribing a nefarious agenda to people coming onto a well known message site and asking a question. If you think a poster is disingenuous, report it. Otherwise troll hunting is against T&Cs.

Sounds like making excuses for male violence. Stop accepting it and blaming others.

What, like the BBC? 😄

You asked me why MH might involve stabbing people - you couldn't understand as you have MH issues and have never stabbed anyone - and I explained.

I don’t need to … that’s the point. I am up to date with my news because unlike OP I don’t go around creating threads with ulterior motives.

Your explanation sounds like excusing violence by blaming mental health care services. When is personal responsibility or familial responsibility ever going to be the default before jumping straight to government funded services?

I’m going to wait for the details of the case and see who ‘we’ve ascribed the ‘blame’ to this time. Perhaps the woman was out too late in the evening and should have been home.

Again you have made an assumption as to a ‘motive’ which is troll hunting by any other name.

If it is her ex partner the police will probably have all the information they need and won't need to keep it in the headlines. (Not saying it is, it just may be a reason the story hasn't been top of the headlines).

You understand that there is a wide range of mental health presentations, and some MH patients literally are not legally responsible for their own actions?

He is a British national. So where’s the heavy lifting?

I’m actually not anti-immigrant at all and have had a heated conversation today with someone I thought was being extremely so. But. When is it okay to ask questions about a woman being stabbed?

It’s okay OP if you want some outrage over Birmingham attacks, perhaps you want to look at the two racist rape attacks on British Sikh women that happened in the last month by white British racist men. Whist raping the women they also racially abused them, violently beat them and in the second case also robbed them.

oh but doesn’t suit your demographic right?

I’ve heard people mention MH issues WRT the train attack last week. However, it doesn’t say in the news that he was arrested and sectioned under the MH act.

If he had severe enough MH issues to try and mass kill, surely he’d have been detained under the MH act?

Or, is it the case that when going to jail your solicitor tells you your options are; a) prison and be held in isolation because you’ve got a target on your back or b) go to a prison hospital and be looked after well, so go along with the MH defence.

And that is the case in b) because half my family worked in a notorious prison hospital housing the worst cases in the UK.

I understand that when a case is investigated part of that would be deeming if the individual is able to stand trial. As of yet we have no idea as to motive or whether mental health is involved. Posters like you have jumped to that assumption, as it’s human nature to assume the motive, as otherwise there are just some fucking terrible and awful people walking around stabbing people randomly.

No, that does sound like something we should absolutely discuss! Have you started a thread you could point me towards?

Yep. That’s literally the train of thought on all of these cases. We could make a yes/no diagram. Illegal immigrant? No ———- move straight onto mental health.

I'm not sure what your reply means as I don't read the Daily Mail. This scared the shit out of me as I was out in Birmingham minutes away from where it happened.

You mean more men doing violent acts on women? Have you considered their mental health?