To think a National Emergency should be called by Starmer?

[Netcurtainnelly]

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-critically-injured-after-being-stabbed-in-neck-in-unprovoked-attack-13466219

Another Stabbing, its daily now.

Country's been allowed to get out of hand.
Should Starmer address it?

64% increase over ten years, but 5% decrease over the past 12 months. And this charity may not have the statistics on its website, but the 2016 figures were lower than the 80s and 90s. Graphs look very different depending on where you start from.

Yep. And knife crime isn't something you solve by declaring it a national emergency.

It's endemic; a cultural issue. Police are underfunded. Prison doesn't work. We ended up in a situation where too many kids had too few prospects outside of criminality, and knives became a way of life for them. Then you had so many shitbags carrying, that kids who may have never considered carrying a knife before were left thinking they had to, and they became the default way of solving problems.

That's not an emergency - it's a prolonged societal failure.

There needs to a major crackdown on crime in this country. It is getting out of control and people are terrified. Build more prisons, make sentences longer and stop worrying about the "human rights" of shitbag criminals who make life a misery for law-abiding people. Bring back the death sentence if necessary.

This thread is about knife crime, not immigration?

And the numbers are coming down. Don't you think the direction of travel is significant?

Seriously? You think prisons and capital punishment are the way out of this? Have you looked at crime statistics in the US recently?

The only effective way to reduce violent crime is through tackling the root causes, which requires thought and investment in social policy and infrastructure, not more and more prisons.

The public health approach to reducing knife crime has been effective in places where they have actually had proper funding to try it, but that has not been possible under the UK's recent history of austerity and policy making designed for the front pages of the Daily Mail, not for long term effectiveness.

www.c4ts.qmul.ac.uk/downloads/pdf-downloads/a-public-health-approach-to-knife-violence---lmts-v10.pdf

Criminals in prison cannot commit crimes against law-abiding people on the outside.
Dead criminals cannot commit crimes at all.

It's time we started looking dispassionately and rationally at how to reduce crime. With the onus being on the right of law-abiding people not to be a victim of crime, and rights of the convicted criminal being of the lowest consideration. Basically deal with criminals in whichever way is least inconvenient for the law-abiding, tax-paying public.

Knife crime in the UK has soared in the last decade. It's a serious problem that needs dealt with. However, the latest data shows a fall in knife crime in the last year.

You miss have gone to a very nice school if you had never heard of people carrying a knife. I was at a big London comp and it was definitely known of and regular fights.

Dont you? I do. Here at home but also in places like (gasp) London. I couldn’t cope with living in fear like that.

What made you feel uncomfortable in London? I’ve been a couple if times this year and haven’t noticed that. Felt completely safe - and nothing bad happened so I was right.

And yet he’s not doing any of those things…

I agree. I don't feel uncomfortable in London.

I don’t need evidence. I’m not asserting there are more random knife attacks. If you have evidence, present it.

And in the last year?

How can you say that when several people have posted the statistics showing it hasn't?

If you don't even know what would happen or how it would ameliorate the problem, why are you calling for it?

Do you think other countries should do the same, OP? In the US, for instance, knife crimes are at around 125K a year, whilst gun crimes are running at around half a million a year including around 40K gun deaths. Do you want to tell Trump to declare a National Emergency there?

I’ve worked in the Multi-agency framework for over 10 years. This is sadly not new news & it has been like this for a long while. The difference is we are seeing more reports in the media of it and I suspect that’s because of the narrative being pushed. In the last fortnight alone I can recall at least 3 incidents of which none made the news - a woman stabbing her husbands hand with a knife as punishment, a youth stabbing another youth and ‘random attack’ on a night out where the circumstances are still unclear. I suspect there are many more than these 3.

Agree with this. Generally most of the cases I come across are male on female attacks or male on male. Perpetrators are more often than not male.

Lies damned lies and statistics.

It's perfectly possible for knife crime to have fallen and random attacks on compete strangers to have increased.

The theory I'm reading and want to see data gathered for is that cannabis is now so strong and use has risen since it was effectively decriminalised (unless you are dealing it), that it is causing psychosis resulting in a greater number of psychotic attacks on complete strangers.

It rings true for me and I'm annoyed that the data isn't being collected and/or published to prove it.

I totally agree with this. I think government is seriously underestimating the problem of strong skunk causing mental health issues.

The PM should still address the societal failure.

Care in the Community failed.
They closed down all the hospitals to build houses.

What does this even mean? They are obviously trying to address it, but there are no quick fixes and it will take time.

We'll have a better idea of how well they have or haven't done by the next election.