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QueenOfThorns · 08/11/2025 17:40

Alpacajigsaw · 08/11/2025 17:05

Your own words were that school stabbings were unheard of. This is clearly untrue.

Yes, it clearly is. I remember the sad story of Ahmed Iqbal Ullah who was stabbed to death at school because he was the same age as me and went to a school very near mine. But that was 1986 and we didn’t have constant instant access to news stories pushed at us by algorithms manipulated by people with very unpleasant agendas Sad

allyjay · 08/11/2025 17:43

MathsTeacherandLoveit · 08/11/2025 12:55

Let's increase police numbers so that they are more visible.
Let's pay for that with increased taxes.

Cue everyone going ape shit because they are having to pay more taxes

The people who hand wring over 'Broken Britain' and the rise in violent crime (despite stats showing the exact opposite) etc are the exact same people who bitch and whine when taxes are raised to deal with the things they bitch and moan about

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:43

QueenOfThorns · 08/11/2025 17:40

Yes, it clearly is. I remember the sad story of Ahmed Iqbal Ullah who was stabbed to death at school because he was the same age as me and went to a school very near mine. But that was 1986 and we didn’t have constant instant access to news stories pushed at us by algorithms manipulated by people with very unpleasant agendas Sad

So, you might have heard of one, but now you hear of many more.

It's like a cancer spreading. You can be sure there will be another stabbing before the week is out.

OP posts:
Nevernonono · 08/11/2025 17:43

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 12:40

It's got worse.

It hasn’t

TopPocketFind · 08/11/2025 17:48

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:43

So, you might have heard of one, but now you hear of many more.

It's like a cancer spreading. You can be sure there will be another stabbing before the week is out.

What will this National Emergency look like?

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:51

TopPocketFind · 08/11/2025 17:48

What will this National Emergency look like?

Thats the pm job to work it out not mine.

OP posts:
brunettemic · 08/11/2025 17:52

I suggest you look up the meaning of an emergency.

TopPocketFind · 08/11/2025 17:53

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:51

Thats the pm job to work it out not mine.

You are calling for one, at least you give us an idea what you think he should do.

VioletandDill · 08/11/2025 17:56

Trump has been declaring National Emergencies left right and centre (in blue cities - not cities with high levels of crime) and now the army patrol the streets, and American citizens are being disappeared.

Is that what you want here, Nige? What is you and Uncle Donnie's endgame with all this sowing of panic?

ilovesooty · 08/11/2025 17:58

TopPocketFind · 08/11/2025 17:53

You are calling for one, at least you give us an idea what you think he should do.

I think you'll be waiting a long time for that.

TopPocketFind · 08/11/2025 18:00

ilovesooty · 08/11/2025 17:58

I think you'll be waiting a long time for that.

I think the post above me about Trump and ICE might be on to something.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 08/11/2025 18:03

Bloody hell, someone mentioned about a 19 year old Lily Whithouse killed a couple of days ago which I hadn’t seen reported anywhere,
They have arrested Mohammed Azim a 42 year old with previous violent attacks.
In 2006 he abducted a man in a row, tied him up and drowned him in a canal getting 11 years for manslaughter and kidnap.
In 2012 just months after release he smashed a bottle over a homeless woman’s head and dragged her off and orally rapped her 3 times as seen on CCTV.
He was given a 16 year tariff and told by judge he was a danger to the public and lucky not to get life.
2020 released under Covid prison release scheme despite being high risk and should have been on licence till 2029.
Fuck me some people should just be locked up for life the first time.

Bangbangwhizzbang · 08/11/2025 18:04

I am sure Starmer would love the excuse to impose ever more draconian laws on the UK population - lock up anyone who disagrees with him as ‘far right’, control the press and social media, track us all via digital ID, ban other political parties….

PandoraSocks · 08/11/2025 18:07

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 08/11/2025 18:03

Bloody hell, someone mentioned about a 19 year old Lily Whithouse killed a couple of days ago which I hadn’t seen reported anywhere,
They have arrested Mohammed Azim a 42 year old with previous violent attacks.
In 2006 he abducted a man in a row, tied him up and drowned him in a canal getting 11 years for manslaughter and kidnap.
In 2012 just months after release he smashed a bottle over a homeless woman’s head and dragged her off and orally rapped her 3 times as seen on CCTV.
He was given a 16 year tariff and told by judge he was a danger to the public and lucky not to get life.
2020 released under Covid prison release scheme despite being high risk and should have been on licence till 2029.
Fuck me some people should just be locked up for life the first time.

Oh my God. That is horrendous.

Livelovebehappy · 08/11/2025 18:08

Well tbh Labour are just letting prisoners out willy nilly so it's hardly surprising there are daily stabbings. Lammy seems to be pretty relaxed about it. If I was a cynic I'd suggest Labour are deliberately letting prisoners sneak out.the back door to make it look like prisons are not full to bursting, so they can claim victory in at least sorting something out. They've done very little with anything else.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/11/2025 18:08

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:43

So, you might have heard of one, but now you hear of many more.

It's like a cancer spreading. You can be sure there will be another stabbing before the week is out.

OP, what part of "the numbers have gone down" are you struggling to understand, exactly?

Maybe it would be a good idea for you to get off social media for a while. It seems to be making you unnecessarily anxious.

PandoraSocks · 08/11/2025 18:08

Bangbangwhizzbang · 08/11/2025 18:04

I am sure Starmer would love the excuse to impose ever more draconian laws on the UK population - lock up anyone who disagrees with him as ‘far right’, control the press and social media, track us all via digital ID, ban other political parties….

Don't be silly.

QueenOfThorns · 08/11/2025 18:09

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:43

So, you might have heard of one, but now you hear of many more.

It's like a cancer spreading. You can be sure there will be another stabbing before the week is out.

Yes, and posters have told you repeatedly on this thread why that is. Why are you not responding to those points?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 08/11/2025 18:09

Livelovebehappy · 08/11/2025 18:08

Well tbh Labour are just letting prisoners out willy nilly so it's hardly surprising there are daily stabbings. Lammy seems to be pretty relaxed about it. If I was a cynic I'd suggest Labour are deliberately letting prisoners sneak out.the back door to make it look like prisons are not full to bursting, so they can claim victory in at least sorting something out. They've done very little with anything else.

Or else they're just reaping the rewards of 14 years of Tory under-investment.

Livelovebehappy · 08/11/2025 18:11

VioletandDill · 08/11/2025 17:56

Trump has been declaring National Emergencies left right and centre (in blue cities - not cities with high levels of crime) and now the army patrol the streets, and American citizens are being disappeared.

Is that what you want here, Nige? What is you and Uncle Donnie's endgame with all this sowing of panic?

Can you name any that have disappeared? I've not heard anything and i reckon if people were just disappearing all over the place that it would he headline news.....

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 08/11/2025 18:12

I expect a response from Starmer will be "Well, we've already banned knives on Amazon, what more do you want?"

Or it's "Part and parcel of living in a big city" as a certain odious London Mayor said.

Can't shatter a certain narrative. Just can't.

DorisTheFinkasaurus · 08/11/2025 18:13

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/11/2025 12:30

I think I heard on radio last week that knife crime has fallen since the last GE.

Apart from London where it’s actually risen.

Piggywaspushed · 08/11/2025 18:13

Netcurtainnelly · 08/11/2025 17:43

So, you might have heard of one, but now you hear of many more.

It's like a cancer spreading. You can be sure there will be another stabbing before the week is out.

I'm still waiting for your list of these 'many more'.

Mewling · 08/11/2025 18:15

Fearmongering fuckwittery. I’d assume it’s due to low intellect, but I suspect OP knows exactly what they’re doing. Just out of curiosity, are you a man OP?

Crikeyalmighty · 08/11/2025 18:16

This has been going on for years - it’s the amount of reporting that varys-don’t remember Sunak, Cameron Johnson or Maycalling National emergencies based on this.

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