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The racism on the Huntingdon train threads is appaling

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Perplexed20 · 02/11/2025 18:48

Just as the title says. The blatant racism and jumping to conclusions on the threads has been terrible. Mumsnet used to be a more informed intelligent place.

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HPFA · 02/11/2025 21:07

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 20:59

Is it really racist to simply question it was a terrorist attack ? Most attacks have been by Muslims . Why is calling a spade a spade seen as racist ? Stating a fact is not racist imo . And no I’m not a crazy right winger I voted left all my life , I’m simply saying that not allowing a discussion to take place will push more people to idiots like farage

Yes it is racist once the police have said there's no evidence and the sole reason for claiming it's a terror attack is because the suspect is Black.

childofthe607080s · 02/11/2025 21:08

Fear - what is racism except a fear of others leading to a generalised and irrational hate ?

BackToLurk · 02/11/2025 21:09

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 20:59

Is it really racist to simply question it was a terrorist attack ? Most attacks have been by Muslims . Why is calling a spade a spade seen as racist ? Stating a fact is not racist imo . And no I’m not a crazy right winger I voted left all my life , I’m simply saying that not allowing a discussion to take place will push more people to idiots like farage

There’s a difference in saying “this could be terrorism” and saying “this is probably terrorism, which is caused by people on small boats who are all criminals like all Muslims are fundamentally regressive oh and now we know the police have arrested black men let’s not forget that you’re only properly British if you’re a white person. (Although the police are probably lying - not about the black thing though)”

If people didn’t want to be accused of racism they could have tried not being racist.

DuncinToffee · 02/11/2025 21:09

HPFA · 02/11/2025 21:05

Elon Musk is openly talking about civil war abd about how migrants are descending on villages and raping kids.

These messages are constantly repeated on social media.

And this has no impact on how people feel?

As well as programming Grok to spread misinformation

Perplexed20 · 02/11/2025 21:09

I can't quite belive im being 'tone' policed for pointing out facts. Thats how much mumsnet has changed. You used to have to be prepared to argue your corner here and demonstrate critical thinking.

Look me up if you like. I rarely change my user name.

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Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:10

Happyjoe · 02/11/2025 21:04

Your observations.. what, on social media? You don't see it personally you say.

I see it on here duh. I read real live experiences.

Netcurtainnelly · 02/11/2025 21:11

ohyesido · 02/11/2025 20:06

The media fuel it.

I saw a headline that read “train knifeman used these two words before being tased” and of course the brainless masses all assumed it was AA. Didn’t even read the article before foaming about it

Wasn't it Alan's snackbar.

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:12

Perplexed20 · 02/11/2025 21:09

I can't quite belive im being 'tone' policed for pointing out facts. Thats how much mumsnet has changed. You used to have to be prepared to argue your corner here and demonstrate critical thinking.

Look me up if you like. I rarely change my user name.

You can’t see the growing issues in our country? Maybe you live in the highlands or in a bubble somewhere, because from where I am sitting the situation looks critical.

Lastfroginthebox · 02/11/2025 21:13

HelenaWaiting · 02/11/2025 21:01

Your response to an appalling, brutal attack is to go through threads looking for people to report? 👏

Reporting racist posts is at least doing something - more productive than e.g. sending thoughts and prayers. What other actions do you suggest?

bombastix · 02/11/2025 21:13

What I see is a lot of fact free fear mongers. Who would want that? Does it help the UK?

GoldPoster · 02/11/2025 21:13

CloudPop · 02/11/2025 18:52

Have you seen the one where they are discussing what sprays (pepper, Deep
Heat) should be carried as the government is no longer caring for us

But that is a useful idea for many situations. Attemped rape etc.

HPFA · 02/11/2025 21:14

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:12

You can’t see the growing issues in our country? Maybe you live in the highlands or in a bubble somewhere, because from where I am sitting the situation looks critical.

If you keep telling people that civil war is coming and they're about to be attacked by hordes of invading migrants then the country will start to feel less safe, obviously.

RingoJuice · 02/11/2025 21:14

AlohaMyMan · 02/11/2025 20:34

Women don't - I mean in Melbourne a woman stabbed another woman randomly in the street and the victim had a punctured lung.

A black woman in the states stabbed a young 2 year old in death in front of his mum. It's probably a lot less. And a lot less reported. But it happens.

But as I asked before what is the "bad thread"?

A very much under discussed phenomenon in the US is that, when black men are less likely to be incarcerated (often ebbing and flowing with political climate), black females will commit more homicides. Some years it will be, on a per capita basis, higher than white males. Always higher than East Asian males, at any rate.

Now these particular crimes are not very much discussed because they tend to be (though obvs not exclusively) family based, so do not affect the wider community (however it can and should be discussed and better understood).

HedwigEliza · 02/11/2025 21:15

BallerinaRadio · 02/11/2025 20:46

We are an incredibly safe country. Incredibly safe. There are just a lot of cunty grifters that don't you want to think this. It's all just a grift.

You can keep telling yourself that if it brings you comfort. Every single day there’s another rape being committed by men who haven’t long been in the country. We’re not a serious country anymore that prioritises the safety and security of citizens.

Perplexed20 · 02/11/2025 21:16

I dont disagree that the UK is in a difficult place. If youd actually read this thread you would have seen that Huntingdon is my local town. I work all over the country.
I also know that racism and division doesnt help.
Which is what this thread is about.

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ohyesido · 02/11/2025 21:16

Netcurtainnelly · 02/11/2025 21:11

Wasn't it Alan's snackbar.

that he said, or assumed by onlookers?

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:18

HPFA · 02/11/2025 21:14

If you keep telling people that civil war is coming and they're about to be attacked by hordes of invading migrants then the country will start to feel less safe, obviously.

keep telling people?! Who is telling people?

It is fact. Millions are arriving every year. That is fact. Are you suggesting it isn’t true? It’s not ‘racism’ to point out that it’s putting unbearable strain on infrastructure, housing, hospitals and social care.

HPFA · 02/11/2025 21:22

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:18

keep telling people?! Who is telling people?

It is fact. Millions are arriving every year. That is fact. Are you suggesting it isn’t true? It’s not ‘racism’ to point out that it’s putting unbearable strain on infrastructure, housing, hospitals and social care.

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How quickly you've gone from "I'm just a poor worried citizen" to spouting Elon Musk's poison.

You could at least try and be subtle about it.

The infrastructure you talk about would collapse without the input of migrants over the years.

Zebedee999 · 02/11/2025 21:25

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Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:25

Perplexed20 · 02/11/2025 21:16

I dont disagree that the UK is in a difficult place. If youd actually read this thread you would have seen that Huntingdon is my local town. I work all over the country.
I also know that racism and division doesnt help.
Which is what this thread is about.

How odd. That you are coming on here to tell people they are racist for feeling worried about their safety, and yet you acknowledge we have huge problems, and still you are not offering any actual solutions. Maybe I haven’t seen the threads you are alluding to, but I do think the gov urgently need to get a grip.

Fact:

https://electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-yougov-poll-shows-multi-party-britain-breaking-the-voting-system/

Latest YouGov poll shows multi-party Britain breaking the voting system

If there were a general election tomorrow, who would form the next government? It sounds like a simple question if you have access to the latest polls. But when the latest YouGov poll, r

https://electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-yougov-poll-shows-multi-party-britain-breaking-the-voting-system/

DuncinToffee · 02/11/2025 21:27

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:18

keep telling people?! Who is telling people?

It is fact. Millions are arriving every year. That is fact. Are you suggesting it isn’t true? It’s not ‘racism’ to point out that it’s putting unbearable strain on infrastructure, housing, hospitals and social care.

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You will be pleased to know then that net migration has fallen considerably

Happyjoe · 02/11/2025 21:28

Nestingbirds · 02/11/2025 21:10

I see it on here duh. I read real live experiences.

What, you read actual reports of people being attacked by Muslim immigrants here on MN? Or do you read fellow racist views and accept those as facts?

Happyjoe · 02/11/2025 21:29

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Are you really trying to justify racist views as 'correct'?

WearyExLondoner · 02/11/2025 21:30

BallerinaRadio · 02/11/2025 20:02

Generally not this type of crime? Do you have the stats for that?

I can name a few mass shoutings by white British men, but not stabbings. There may have been some, but aside from serial killers like Jack the Ripper, knives don’t seem to be the weapon of choice for white men here.

So the poster stating that ‘our’ mass attackers don’t seem to use methods ‘like this’, is probably true.