To think women have double standards

[Scottishlass10]

DH & I were travelling by train and there was a group of women sitting across from us. If men discussed women the way they talked about men the men would be accused of misogyny. Later on DH said and I agree, that some women think it’s unacceptable to be objectified and spoken about in a sexual way but it’s ok for men to be treated like that and there certainly is double standards.

Honestly, what?? Stop it 🤣

If it helps, you sound like a white person saying they have never heard anything racist. Ever.

I honestly haven’t, but then again I’m an older women who doesn’t frequent bars, clubs and rarely travels on public transport.

That’s unusual. And it’s not just crude comments by men that are the issue OP. I really think you’re naive to this issue as a whole, here are some bits of reading that might help you understand how unusual an experience it is to have never heard men on public transport saying comments as crude as the women you encountered:

https://www.btp.police.uk/news/btp/news/england/over-a-third-of-women-have-been-sexually-harassed-on-their-commute-to-work/

https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-and-blogs/blogs/security-and-risk/increasing-numbers-of-sexual-offences-on-public-transport-recorded-but-many-experiences-are-still-normalised-and-go-unreported

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/14/violence-against-women-on-uk-trains-rises-by-50-in-two-years

Does looking at those (even skimming them if you don’t have much time) help you understand why people have reacted so strongly to your posts?

I rarely travel on public transport. I can’t remember the last time I was on a bus and when I do occasionally travel by train it’s First Class, so it’s not unreasonable that I’ve never heard this. I’m not denying it doesn’t happen, I’ve just never experienced it.

I didn’t say it was unreasonable you’d never heard it, I said it was unusual.

Nobody said you’re lying about not hearing it, it’s just highly unusual and your tone throughout has been dismissive of people trying to explain the much more commonplace experience of the majority of women to you.

I’m not sure what the relevance of your first class reference is tbh. Plenty of men with the budget for first class are also misogynist pricks. I’ve worked with plenty of them. It’s not a class thing. It’s a (not all, but many) men thing,