To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

We had high asylum numbers pre Brexit, early 2000 was just as high. Just by lorry instead.

Exactly. When Jews were fleeing the Nazis, they went literally anywhere they could get a visa (China, South America, anywhere). Those who couldn't get visas fled to neighbouring countries, sometimes going over the mountains on foot (if they could, most couldn't obviously). As the war spread, they often had to move multiple times, or would be caught in the country they had fled to for safety. I don't understand why we are so accepting of people risking their lives to come to Britain from France. It's as if France was a war-torn hell-hole.

I'm completely in favour of an asylum system that is only accessible from abroad. As a country we need to decide how many people we can rescue and offer asylum to that many. We cannot, unfortunately, rescue the whole world.

36.5thousand have come this year. That's 800 a week

Fuck that

It needs to be resolved ASA fucking P

Ahhhh you got me. I’m definitely not a 35 year old mum of two who just doesn’t push away uncomfortable topics for an easy life.

Look at the votes! The silent majority indeed.

Couldn't be further from the truth but you think we are the minority in thinking that we don't want them coming here? Wrong.
The majority think it but remain quiet. It will be proven in the voting soon enough.

The arrival of several hundred people a day on inflatable boats when the weather is fair is highly visible and so has become the focus of increasingly hysterical attention. As a result, each incidence of crime is reported, amplifying the hysteria. Since Labour came to power, the number of hotels housing migrants has halved, to 200 - not a huge number for Great Britain as a whole. Thanks to the Conservative government allowing a processing backlog to build up, thousands of people, c.75% of them men, have nothing much to do all day as they are not permitted to work.

As the Home Office has been largely dysfunctional for years, I suspect that we don't actually know who is in the country, where they are, and who they are because many toss their documents into the English Channel. It's one example among many of state failure, and one shared by other European countries. Sadly, neither the Conservatives nor Labour has had much success in stemming the flow. Nations that have done so, including Australia, Sweden and Denmark, have been ruthless - closing their borders, paying people to return to their country of origin, removing people from immigrant enclaves. Now for Labour, the impetus to stop the boats comes not from lack of belief in the value of immigration but from the need to calm the public mood.

There will be significantly more illegals coming in than we know, simply by entering the UK through Ireland and then disappearing. Obviously the Rwanda scheme was sending them the other way, but Keir put a stop to that.

And yes I am concerned OP. A huge amount of places have changed for the worse. And if you haven't noticed then you haven't been paying attention.

I think we’ve established that you are talking out of your arse

People don't come over with a nice sheaf of documents and a DBS check. They can't do an effective criminal record check on these people.

You may not be granted asylum if you're not genuine, but you might be here for years while they decide and then eventually deport you.

In the year ending March 2025, the UK issued 20,592 family reunion visas to partners and children of those granted asylum, a significant increase from the previous year. This indicates that, on average, over 50 relatives were joining them in the UK each day through legal routes

She's right though. Arse or not.

Nope I don’t think so. Crime has reduced over all and continues to.

There are issues to kick off about in our society but this isn’t one of them. The migrant/asylum seeker/ foreigner bashing is the oldest trick in the book it was used to achieve Brexit at the very detriment and expense of the very idiots who voted for it. It is now being used to get reform in.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2025#:~:text=Data%20for%20YE%20March%202025,YE%20March%202014%20(533%20offences)

Not illegal young people we don’t.

Anyone who isn’t concerned about it is dangerously blase about a serious issue.

It’s not good for anybody for this to continue but I don’t see any firm, effective measures being taken to tackle it.

It’s also impossible to have anything resembling a sensible conversation about it. The debate is dominated by naive people
who think everyone who arrives on a boat is a genuine, well-intentioned asylum seeker with a legitimate claim, and out and out racists spouting nonsense.

Oh I bet the family of poor Rhiannon must be greatly comforted by that information!!

How do you propose they should be stopped arriving in the uk?

Tell that to Rhiannon's family

Yeah go on. Show the establishment and shoot yourself in the foot like you did with Brexit. Honestly some just don’t learn.

You have deflected concerning a declining population.
Yeah great just throw open the doors and let any fecker in.
Nice one.

The people you nastily and dismissively call 'illegals' are human beings who have risked their lives to come to Europe. They are not coming to the UK illegally as they have the right to claim asylum. That would remain the case even if 100% of them were deported. They are irregular migrants.

It’s like trans all over again.

People urging us to ‘share our spaces’ with men because ‘they’ll offend anyway even if you refuse’. And ‘you should be more worried about abuse from cis/white men’ and ‘you’re a bigot’. The ‘they’re so vulnerable’ and ‘why would you want to be mean’. The ‘we can guard against this with proper safety checks’ and ‘nobody would pretend to be trans/asylum seeking’.

All so boringly repetitive and the same women making the same mistakes over and over.

Not our problem.

They are economic migrants
They come from a safe country
They enter illegally jumping the queue ahead of people that may be in genuine need and who I actually do have sympathy for.
They work illegally.

I'm not dismissive of the problem. No one is. It's the number one issue of people in this country according to the polls.

immigration is a real problem. We’re only a small Island, And men who see women as inferior to them it’s a real danger and if you can’t see that you obviously live in very nice areas where you don’t have to come face-to-face with it every day. having worked in social services I’ve seen grown men trying to pass as 14 these men looked at at least 10/15 years older and they we trying To get into education so into secondary schools And wanted to To be under the care of social services
. Granted we have lots of problems at the moment In this country, but if we don’t get a handle on this things will get a lot worse