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To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

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CalmShaker · 14/10/2025 21:33

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

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Reallynotsure25 · 14/10/2025 21:49

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:44

No, they’re really not. The vast majority of the UK’s problems are due to overcrowding, a reliance on benefits and mental health. How does throwing in a few million extras who will need intense support, housing and no doubt carry some kind of trauma help us?

Can you explain where your millions figure comes from? What’s your data source?

Goldeh · 14/10/2025 21:49

CalmShaker · 14/10/2025 21:41

That seems to be the standard response but I'm finding that hard to continually accept.
What is the purpose of having background checks, rules, criminal history if someone can just bypass that and enter via boat. We are then told, it's fine statistically nothing will happen. But it is happening.

There's absolutely no evidence that asylum seekers and immigrants are more likely to engage in criminal activity than British citizens (quite the opposite in fact).

And you do know they get checked and better as part of their application, don't you? They don't just step off a boat and get ushered into their free mansion. Their details are taken, biometric data collected, interviews conducted, background checks run, etc. Your claim about lack of background checks is disingenuous at best.

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:50

Reallynotsure25 · 14/10/2025 21:49

Can you explain where your millions figure comes from? What’s your data source?

Nearly 200,000 and counting in the last few years alone. Where do you think we will end up? It’s not stopping.

Libertylawn · 14/10/2025 21:50

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:48

Let’s do a thought experiment.

Is Afghanistan more, or less, misogynistic than the UK?

If it’s not the men just like the ones piling over here who are oppressing them, then who is?

The Taliban, as distinct from Afghan culture generally, are off the chart women haters. And <drumroll> that’s why many people want to leave. But the ones most able are not women.

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:51

Goldeh · 14/10/2025 21:49

There's absolutely no evidence that asylum seekers and immigrants are more likely to engage in criminal activity than British citizens (quite the opposite in fact).

And you do know they get checked and better as part of their application, don't you? They don't just step off a boat and get ushered into their free mansion. Their details are taken, biometric data collected, interviews conducted, background checks run, etc. Your claim about lack of background checks is disingenuous at best.

Ffs have you seen Sweden? Germany? Those women mass sexually assaulted themselves did they?

Grindingpoverty · 14/10/2025 21:51

mattbee · 14/10/2025 21:47

Almost all migrants arriving by irregular means make a formal asylum claim. They are in the system. They don't bypass anything.

Are you certain you're not irrationally overestimating the risk of violence from people who don't look like you?

People who come here on a visa are subject to a criminal record check, which obviously asylum seekers are not. Even those who are eventually found not to be genuine are here for years and years before they are deported. That's people who are not genuinely fleeing for their lives and who have had no background check to make sure they haven't committed a serious crime in their country of origin.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 14/10/2025 21:51

You do realise that there is a process that they go through before they even get near a hotel don’t you?

Also a large section in asylum hotels are those who have been here on student visas or other visas that have expired

Libertylawn · 14/10/2025 21:51

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:50

Nearly 200,000 and counting in the last few years alone. Where do you think we will end up? It’s not stopping.

Data source, was what you were asked for.

Seeingadistance · 14/10/2025 21:51

mattbee · 14/10/2025 21:47

Almost all migrants arriving by irregular means make a formal asylum claim. They are in the system. They don't bypass anything.

Are you certain you're not irrationally overestimating the risk of violence from people who don't look like you?

The OP didn’t say what she looks like.

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:52

Libertylawn · 14/10/2025 21:51

Data source, was what you were asked for.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgkx20dyvo.amp

Libertylawn · 14/10/2025 21:52

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:51

Ffs have you seen Sweden? Germany? Those women mass sexually assaulted themselves did they?

Can you post numbers and sources? I refer back to the three women a week killed here, by their British partners.

swingingbytheseat · 14/10/2025 21:52

Yawn..jfc

Grindingpoverty · 14/10/2025 21:53

Goldeh · 14/10/2025 21:49

There's absolutely no evidence that asylum seekers and immigrants are more likely to engage in criminal activity than British citizens (quite the opposite in fact).

And you do know they get checked and better as part of their application, don't you? They don't just step off a boat and get ushered into their free mansion. Their details are taken, biometric data collected, interviews conducted, background checks run, etc. Your claim about lack of background checks is disingenuous at best.

Realistically they can't background check these people. How do you do that when they arrive with no paperwork?

PauliesWalnuts · 14/10/2025 21:53

Going back to the flooding in your initial post - that’s caused by climate change, not economic migrants or refugees.

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Grindingpoverty · 14/10/2025 21:56

I don't understand all the people saying this isn't a problem, British-born men are the problem. Sure British men are a problem, but that's a completely separate issue. We do criminal record checks on visa applicants for a reason. Do you all think we should just stop bothering? If not, why are they important for visa applicants but completely irrelevant in the context of asylum seekers?

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 14/10/2025 21:56

Oh come on, let's face it. They see the UK as easy money, digs for free. Whatever else

They had safety in France. They didn't need to continue on.
They are all men
They lie about their age and say they are "children".
Some mumsnetters really need to open their eyes! It's absolutely astounding how people can just sleepwalk into this nightmare that awaits.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 14/10/2025 21:57

Grindingpoverty · 14/10/2025 21:53

Realistically they can't background check these people. How do you do that when they arrive with no paperwork?

They can and they do.

Bigpinksweater · 14/10/2025 21:58

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 14/10/2025 21:57

They can and they do.

like the spies and murderer I just linked to?

Grindingpoverty · 14/10/2025 21:59

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 14/10/2025 21:57

They can and they do.

How? If a person has come from Syria or Sudan with no documents, how do they check his criminal history? Other than just asking him...?

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FancyLimePoet · 14/10/2025 22:00

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Sorry. That didn’t come across well, but the point I was answering was selective statistics. I think a better way to look at it as a proportion of the population involved in violent crime compared to other demographics. I’m not really sure how they do background checks on non-documented individuals, some countries have a corrupt legal system so there could also be unfair charges levelled against them. I think a huge issue is the amount of time it’s taking to process people. I think I would also be under extreme mental strain if I couldn’t work and had to live in a hotel for years on end! Not really sure what the solution is.

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