To think that it's about time islamic fundamentalism is dissected and challenged

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Did anyone read the very interesting article by Matthew Syed (sorry if behind a paywall) - Sunday Times: 'One thing has been holding back the Middle East for centuries':
https://www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/middle-east-religious-fanaticism-iran-kcvh5knn3

"The Middle East was once the centre of the intellectual world. Then it went into reverse. The problem then, as now, is Islamic fundamentalism. No peace or prosperity is possible until the madrassas and other machines of indoctrination are confronted"

I agree! They all need to be called out together with Islamic fundamentalists.

Are you well?

I asked a question- see the punctuation mark (?)... You found it highly amusing apparently... laughing emoji and all.
All I needed was a response, then perhaps we could discuss further or your answer may have been sufficient, requiring no further exchanges.

Check who mocked whom - 🪞.

Please do elaborate.

I will pick this up properly tomorrow

but but but.

I’ve known Matthew Syed for over 20 years and he is solidly a good egg, brave in the face of international shadows, and always gets the round in.

No, they're not.

Why is mentioning Islamic fundamentalism Muslim bashing.
Are you trying to shut down conversation.

I feel Islam is the new TWAW
The 'be kind' brigade on the left are focused on that now and its the same situation.
Can't talk about trans issues = transphobia
Can't talk about issues in Islam = Islamaphobia

And there ARE issues with Islam that directly contradict Western standards and make Islam incompatible with Western culture

That’s a bit rude.

Why must you be apologist for a religion that hold women in contempt. Why don't you support women instead instead of supporting men perpetuating that religion. Oh wait it's because you hold women in contempt too.

Don’t lump me in with you lot, thanks.

It is only possible to have reasoned discussion with someone who is reasonable.
That doesn't include any fundamentalist of any faith.

He's wasting his breath.

What issues are those?
Christianity also has issues that are incompatible with any decent persons standards, but no one seems to want to talk about that, given there are far more Christians in the U.K. than Muslims, perhaps we start with that?

Where do you get that information from

Sorry I misread your comment as if there were 43 000 Christian Fundamentalists on the list.

Quite.
@ExtraOnions your post doesn’t even touch the sides of the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism.

Yawn.
Another deflection misdirection post trying to shut down peoples legitimate concerns.

Yes they are.
You seem to want to shut down conversation when it doesn’t agree with your agenda.
Why is that ?

Maybe not in the UK (yet), but White/Christian/Right Wing fundamentalism is resulting in acts of terrorism the world over that we don't call acts of terrorism. Just a few examples below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_City_mosque_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2017_Melbourne_car_attack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bar_shootings_in_Virginia

...oh, wait, there are some in the UK too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Southport_stabbings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_London_nail_bombings

It isn't racist to be concerned about violent fundamentalism, but it is racist to only be concerned about it in one group.

Did you read the article?

Fundamentalism of every kind, not just religious always seems to result in evil. Anyone without doubt and a belief in grey areas should be kept far away from power.

I tell what you is gross, a prophet whose held up as the epitome of virtue who marries a six-year old girl, and consummates that marriage when she is nine….. and liberals saying we have to be tolerant of this abomination!

Sure, other religions have their issues, but they tend to permit much more flexible interpretations of their holy scriptures…

If I burnt a Bible, some people would just get a bit upset…. If I burnt a Koran, I’d quite likely end up dead.

What is “colonial” is the rapid domination of a new culture on western society. Let’s not sleep walk into a society that we don’t want

OP, how do you propose to do that, by whom, and what do you think the outcome is likely to be?

The Reformation and Enlightenment made Christianity a far more flexible and tolerant religion with a huge diversity of beliefs and perspectives… yes, there are some nutcases, there always will be.

This isn’t the case in Islam… where the penalty for leaving the religion or blasphemy is literally death (even ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses are just shunned if they leave!) and many countries practice that today.

Islam is a cult of momentous proportions based on medieval barbarism - it should be called out as such. It is not the same as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc.

Do you challenge fundamental Christianity? Your American cousins could use some of that challenging.