Zack Polanski telling it like it is

[Daygloboo]

Just seen party political broadcast by the Green Party. Zack Polanski telling it like it is. Billionaires taking rhe pee out of the rest of us while they make money for doing nothing. And if we tax them we get told they' ll leave. Well good. I'll buy them a ticket and give them a map. At last a politician who isn't mealy mouthed. Am I right or am I right. Stuff Reform. Long live Zack.

I was laughing at the idea that anyone could .make tits grow by mind power. It is funny..

It's funny until you realise that it's men like this who are in charge and have significant influence and power.

It's interesting in your earlier posts you talk about wanting to support trans people while still believing that women should have access to their single sex spaces. And you're very clear on the fact that not all trans people are bad.

You don't give women the same generosity with your assumptions. You made several sweeping statements about the terrible GC women and what they believe. Perhaps you might like to consider that there are many, many GC women who would be happy to support trans people if they weren't constantly trying to invade single sex spaces or claiming other hard-won rights (such as female spaces in a male-dominated environment, eg).

GC women are pissed off and frustrated because as a sex class, we are never anyone's priority. We are always expected to shuffle over and make room.

You say that Zack Polankski doesn't hate women and you believe that he is interested in women's rights. Funny though, he's not really talking about that. Not ever. He's not talking about the difficulties that women have had to deal with or the lack of equality. But he is REALLY concerned about men from his own community - the LGBTQ community which prioritises biological men. He's certainly talking a lot about the horrific Equality Act and the bigoted women who want to be safe from rapey men in single sex spaces. No condemnation for the rapey men, just the women who want to be safe.

We know that the number of trans people who want to rape or assault us is in the minority. But the same goes for anyone with a male body. The majority wouldn't hurt us. But we keep ALL of them out because it's impossible to tell - and that logic holds for the biological men in the trans community too.

It really is wearing trying to have to constantly explain such a basic tenet and to have to ask others to give women such a very minimal level of respect. It's even more wearing when you watch people like Polanski bend over backwards to accommodate and placate the very people who want to trample on women's rights.

This is why so many women on this thread are telling you the Green party is problematic.

And that's sickening really when many of us would like to give them our vote.

Why do we have single sex spaces? Because men as a class are a danger to women as a class, and we have no way of knowing which men are a danger, so we keep them all out.

Men as a class don’t stop being a danger because they identify as trans. Those men who identify as trans don’t stop being men. So we keep them out
of female spaces.

(Plus privacy and dignity, of course.)

Zack would consider what you just said to be transphobic and horrific. He wants you to forget those men are men and step aside for them, and while you’re at it, keep your mouth shut about any concerns you might have.

Did you know that, given the tiny number of men who identify as trans, that a disproportionate number of them are in prison for sex offences?

Also, @Daygloboo, you
might want to follow the Green Women Declaration. I think you’d be interested in what they have to say and agree with much of it.

Polanski banned them from the Green Party Conference.

www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/

This and their stance on having nuclear weapons concerns me.

Id be all for getting rid of nukes one day, if the whole world does, but not unilaterally.

He’s right on some things, like billionaires and the environment of course.

There is a massive housing crisis but sure let’s scream ‘communism’ every time someone proposes dealing with it.

His background is hardly poor, working class, 🤷‍♀️

It’s a question of balance in the world isn’t it. You can denounce a whole party’s politics over one element or you could think, well, on balance let’s take the climate and inequality seriously first and foremost.

Getting back to your original contention.........

So the millionaires leave with your encouragement. How are you going to plug the huge financial hole?

I would feel safer (as a woman) around Zack Polanski than most politicians. In addition, there are many strong women in the Greens: Carla Denyer, Sian Berry, Caroline Lucas, Ellie Chowns.
Green Party policies would do more to better the lives of women than the majority of party’s policies would.

Of course. But if a party of going to take a profoundly anti-science view on that one point, it raises questions over other scientific points they’re making.

Of course, what would work best is for the Greens to simply stick to environmental policies. We need strong voices on that subject in parliament. But they’ve veered off into other policies and that’s where they’ve run into trouble. I’m not voting for misogynists, nor do I tend to vote for hard left policies. Otherwise, I probably would vote Green.

I’m a woman and the mother of a daughter. Among other things, I vote for the party least likely to shit all over me and her. (Obviously, they all do to one extent or another.)

100 per cent agree with the OP.

Fortunately I'm not a transphobic loon - like so many on Mumsnet.

Mainly support Green Party as Labour has back-tracked a lot on their carbon-reducing policies

I think this is generous and overly flattering.

If the current Green Party did focus on the environment, then I would have a real dilemma, trying to decide whether I should vote for them despite the misogyny and rejection of the Cass Report.

With Zack as leader, it's easier to reject them. He isn't Green; he's an opportunistic politician who is just out for himself (the recent Private Eye profile was very good at revealing how he convinced 2 opposing factions in the Lib Dems that he was part of their group).

The environment was barely mentioned in his leader's speech at Conference. His pitch to members and voters is populism and trans rights.

As a left women it’s a hard no. He’s a misogynist who thinks GC women should be banned from conference for their “behaviour” which mainly takes the form of science and handing out leaflets.

Anyone this stupid, arrogant,
misogynistic and misinformed does not deserve to be leader.

I wish that was their focus, climate change, energy, sustainability, equality. My kind of party!
Unfortunately, things seem to have taken a turn against this.

Please break down what you mean by “transphobic loon”.

Yeah, I did wonder about this too. Never heard of the guy, then suddenly feel like I’m looking at a bunch of threads praising him.

Looked him up out of curiosity and honestly, he doesn’t sound all that…credible, let’s just say.

The Greens haven’t felt like a viable option in ages though. Feeling very politically homeless for now. Fun times.

@cariadlet - you're spot on, and that's my problem, really. Instead of Green issues, it's about populism with a leader who doesn't respect women.

No one has mentioned he wants to legalise all drugs yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20e20rzje2o

Is that because you have to have consumed lots of drugs to consider voting green and he thinks this will improve his election chances?

He didn't get the memo that we know what men and women are now.
Any man who can bully women the way he does for knowing basic biology is not left leaning.

Sigh! Chartered tax advisor here. The top 10% of earners pay more tax than the other 90%. Happy to help.

Oh fantastic. Plus he wants the UK to leave NATO. What could possibly go wrong?

But that’s exactly why we think he’s mad. Because he doesn’t support 50% of the electorate. That’s why we won’t even consider voting for him. Because he pisses all over the hard won rights of women. Why the hell would any woman with half a brain vote for this creep???