To be absolutely fuming about the digital ID thing?

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I work as a nurse in England.

I just feel absolutely fuming about the digital ID proposals and don't know how to channel my anger??

I very strongly object to this. It makes my blood boil when I think about it and I feel anxious knowing that something like this may be imposed on us all.

It is not going to stop illegal immigration. That line is absolute BS. They're doing it for their own selfish reasons.

What do we do? I don't want to not work, but I am going to refuse to have one. So my employer may sack me?!

It's just ridiculous!

Obviously I've signed the petition, emailed my MP, will join any protests etc.

But practically speaking - will my employer actually sack me for not having one?

People have opinions, they are asked by the media. Obviously a major supplier is informed so a good person to ask.

Labour will have to deal with that and what people think generally.

Yabu, you are being somewhat paranoid and melodramatic.

You do realise that the phone you carry around (assuming you use a modern phone) tracks your every location and already has a shit ton of personal information about you, which depending on which “accept all” cookies you click on when visiting a/n 9ther website, may be sold to murky data brokers located in any part of the world?!?

Our passports already have biometric information included; the govt presumably has access too this. It’s really not hard for someone to completely track us all, to within an inch of our lives already and I fail to see what you think is going to happen.

The brief replies wrt this are essentially paranoid and little else.

Besides, if someone were to dig really deep into my life, they would only really discover (like I suspect the vast majority of anti ID posters)…what a boring, average and somewhat dull person I am, so I have little to fear with this.

So, if we had it, what would happen to those who try to access 'services' without Digital ID. I would imagine Jack all. Lots of handwringing? More soundbites on how to stop a problem that it was supposed to cure? Legal challenges?
Law abiding even more traceable than now and those under radar carries on as normal.
The government can't be trusted to run a piss up in a brewery, it will be an expensive flop.

I don’t have a problem with digital ID - what I do have an issue with is the cost (I thought we were skint as a country ) but the fact it will clearly be rolled out to shitty unscrupulous billionaire government contractors like bloody Serco or Capita

Don't be so naive.

Sadly yes, why we ever left is beyond me! I couldn't even believe leaving was suggested, after all the hard work since the EEC and building the opportunities. So much to say on the topic...

I am genuinely envious that of all the issues facing the UK at the moment the one that gets your attention is ID cards.

Safe democratic country??
Grefell
Post office scandal
Infected blood scandal
Hillsborough
The DES scandal

Well enlighten me oh wise one! What do you actually know that the rest of us don’t?

I really don’t get the furore about this, it’s really hard for me to give a fuck.

The government already have tons of information about me.

The only thing I would say is that legitimate employers already do proper right to work checks. Unscrupulous employers don’t and Incant see that changing.

I think that those (generally) on the right who are fiercely opposed to this can be split into two groups:

Tin foil hat brigade who haven’t actually thought through the tracking data on their ID that is already freely available…

And those that genuinely have something to hide; ie intelligent but worried tax avoiders and those involved in murky schemes..who need to not have anyone looking too closely at what they’re upto.

As I don’t fall into either of these Its not a problem for me.

twenty twenty is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not sure what twenty twenty is but thanks

Think its just ppl on the right do we????? Why dont you ask the social housing tenants who are the victims of SAP

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5109616-to-think-social-housing-tenants-need-their-horizon-moment-and-lessons-have-not-been-learned

“Yes children, we posted on Mumsnet and everything.” 🙄

Its a year Happened five years ago. The numbers on my keyboard arent working. But you knew what i meant Im damn sure of it. Because names like far right and Nazi were thrown at people who didnt agree with the restrictions back then. There was also the assumption that anyone who disagreed with the restrictions was also against the vaccines.

Generally (I did use that word, it means not exclusively) political pushback for this policy has been from the right. It has been from the posters I recognise here too.

It’s a labour policy. I don’t see the LDs against it? So generally the right are against it…

I have no idea what you’re talking about

Ah another poster who gets off on trying to make others type things over and over again. Nah its obvious what i meant Nice try though.

Corbyn and Lib Dems are both against. Some of Labour too. This is a Starmer policy mostly, and posters who back him on here.

Not getting off on anything, just don’t know what twenty twenty means, I will have a Google see if I can find out

She means the year 2020 and the discourse around Covid restrictions.

Thanks. I did put a question mark as I was unsure. I don’t follow Corbyn myself.

But I still think (despite not voting labour for the last few elections) that it isn’t a bad idea; we need to know who is actually in this country surely, and this is a quick and simple way for authorities to do so.

Could you say more on how? The quick and easy part.

If an employer currently doesn’t care about proof to work in the U.K. why does another form of ID change anything? They won’t ask for that either.

i know the employer may not be interested.

But if those enforcing against the black economy could check quickly and easily against an employees status that has to be a good thing. I would imagine it may be convoluted right now.

I do believe that our country does have a draw to those working in the black economy simply because it’s easier than it is in eg Europe. I don’t see that as a bad thing to try to address.