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To miss DS’s wedding? *trigger warning*, concerns rape

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GiftBaggage · 03/10/2025 21:46

DS recently shared the news that he’s getting married. I’m a little surprised since he’s not been with his GF very long (I’ve only met her once) and seemed to be in ‘bachelor’ mode a few short months ago but it’s his life and decision obviously. He’s also planning for all the parents to meet each other at a meal or something along those lines very soon.

The problem is, I don’t know if I can actually be in the same room as his father. I was just 14 when I got pregnant and he was older. He abused me in every way possible, including rape. Then, when I broke up with him, he stalked me intermittently for a few years and was later found guilty of harassment at court. He burgled my house after I bumped into him on public transport and he somehow stole my keys out of my bag (to this day I’ve no idea how). There’s other stuff too but you get the picture.

He completely abandoned our son at 1yo and has never paid a penny in child maintenance. I’ve raised him almost totally alone. DS got back in touch with him a few years ago and seems completely overawed by him. I was really hurt that he told his dad the news before me (not sure why DS wanted me to know that) and feel he’s had a bit of personality transplant since spending time with him.

I haven’t let DS know how I’m feeling and I would never ask him to ‘choose’ between us but I just don’t know how I can physically be in the same room as his dad.

Has anyone been in the same situation? How did you deal with it? Advice gratefully received as I’m feeling so upset about it all. I’ve dreaded this day for so long and now it’s actually happening, I don’t know how to handle it 😞

OP posts:
dumberthanaboxofrocks · 05/10/2025 12:09

About the ‘times have changed’ narrative. I am a bit older than you, OP (b.1981). There’s the same age gap between you and your ex as me and DH. It’s not about the five years, it’s about the fact you were 13. We met at 25/30. He says in 1994 (at 13 and 18) he’d have seen me as a little girl.

My brother is the same age as DH and I remember very well how he viewed my peers; kids. So he would have been grossed out at messing about with a girl my age. My best mate’s older brother once said to her he had a notion for me when I was about 17. I knew, and I liked him back, but it went unacted on, there was a sense that even then (he was 22) it was a bit off because he had known me as a 13 year old. For context, he had a pal who went out with a girl in our year when they were 16/21 and he got a LOT of slaggings about being a ‘paedo’ even with the age of consent being 16. That was in 1996, and you’re even younger than us.

Re. nowadays, DS is not yet 17 and has said if he was seeing a 13 year old he would fully expect to be a) battered at school and b) arrested. I’ve read this thread to him and he points out that boys his age and younger than him cannot legally ‘look online’ at girls who are 13, so in what world would anyone his age actually think it’s okay, regardless of what the girl is up for? His sister is 13 and he is repulsed at the thought of cracking onto her pals. I said ‘what if they really fancied you though’ and he made a ‘boak’ face. So that seems to be an enduring protective norm.

Leaving the ‘young adult’ grey area behind (ie. 16+ girls) it’s been a good 150 years since a 13 year old was viewed by society as a suitable sexual partner for an adult man, even a young man. Yes, in the 90s there were girls of 13/14 at my school who were shagging men of 18+ but it was seen then as those guys being sickos taking advantage (almost always of vulnerable girls). This isn’t some 2020s sensitivity.

Whether the cops would be interested - arguably not but also possibly not a chapter you’d want to re-open - since OP’s ex has a provable history of targeting young and vulnerable women and isn’t allowed to be around children (WTF) it’s moot. He’s already been caught, just not for what he did to OP. This man clearly didn’t ’grow up’ until some point after his sexual interest in children became prosecutable. And that’s leaving aside an unchallenged history of paedophilic behaviour, coercion, rape, violence and harassment.

As OP says, it’s her son shrugging off what he does know. And expecting her to say ‘it’s no big deal’ to what he doesn’t know but must have a sense of. He’s old enough at 26 to know right from wrong. It concerns me that he believes because it ‘wasn’t violent’ it’s easily minimised. I would argue burglary is an act of extreme violence and violation, and I also wonder if the sexual stuff only ‘wasn’t violent’ because OP complied.

I wonder where her son’s boundaries around consent and exploitation lie. Is it only okay if the perpetrator is popular? Or it’s old news? Why isn’t it up to the victim to decide what’s okay by them? How can he believe that in this day and age?

I think there’s been enough advice on how to handle it, so I won’t add to it, but I just wanted to say to OP that I am sorry and I hope your DS doesn’t have to learn the hard way about his dad. Maybe that’s what it will take. Even if your ex has ‘changed’ (ie. got caught) I don’t see any good argument for you having to suffer through a social situation in the same room with your abuser, and I don’t know how they’ll handle having grandchildren if he’s in their lives. I assume there will be no children at this wedding? He’s storing up a lot of issues for himself and his future family and I suspect his problems are just starting.

You’ve done your best in a terrible situation and unfortunately it seems like for you, as for many abuse victims, your stoicism and loyalty have ended up being used as another tool of victimisation. My heart breaks for you.

ELMhouse · 05/10/2025 12:23

I agree with getting to know your new daughter in law too and sitting them both down and calmly explaining why meeting up with all the parents together won’t be possible.

im sorry to say but the reason you have likely seen a change in your son is that his father will be drip feeding false information about when you were together (the ‘bitter’ word speaks volumes).

you will be painted as a monster by your DS father and you will be seen as the bitter twisted ex in your DS eyes if you don’t at least try and tell your side of the story.

you may lose your son if you don’t come to the wedding but at least if you have had a frank conversation then your truth is out there (and if new Dil is decent she will poss understand from a female pov).

by not giving your son all of the information to work with you will push him closer to his father and most likely his fathers lies - you will give all your power to your ex. Even if he ‘doesn’t believe you’ or still chooses a relationship with his father you cannot say you didn’t try.

therapy is a great idea to talk this through and get some advice on how to approach conversations such as the one you need to have.

good luck OP it sounds like a very hard situation and the path won’t be an easy one.

Francestein · 05/10/2025 12:25

I’m in my early 50’s and was drugged and gang raped at 14. This was all orchestrated by a family member who was supposed to be looking after me while my parents were away. I was not in a position to press charges, as family would have made life worse for me. In my early 20’s I had to sing at that fucker’s wedding. He was early 30’s and his wife was his sister in law who had just turned 18. She sent him to jail for similar crimes as your exh. Her kids are old enough and smart enough to know about him. They needed to have the full picture.

Nestingbirds · 05/10/2025 12:32

I hope you are still here quietly op, and taking away some of the more helpful replies so you can come to the best decision for you and your own family 💐

WearyAuldWumman · 05/10/2025 12:51

@Francestein - I'm so sorry. I'm glad he had his comeuppance

Elsvieta · 05/10/2025 15:46

Tell your ds about ALL the abuse - omit nothing - and tell him he will need to choose which one of you he wants at the dinner with his fiancée's parents, and at the wedding. He raped you - it's not U at all to not want to be around him again. You shouldn't try to control whether ds has contact with him, but that goes both ways - there's no reason you should.

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