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Single SIL never hosting

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Startrekobsessed · 03/10/2025 13:14

The inevitable Christmas conversation has come in our household. We alternate between mine and my husbands family and this year it’s my husbands families ‘turn’. Sometimes we host and sometimes my MIL hosts.

I’ve noticed that my SIL has never hosted, in 15 years,, and I’m wondering if this is normal, it doesn’t feel it. When we host it’s usually just me doing the cooking because my husband has to entertain the kids (we tried to get in laws to do it but they just want to watch tv) so I don’t see the arguement that she’s one person and it would be too much work. She lives in a 3 bed house so has the space to host so I’m wondering why she doesn’t. It’s like I can see my life stretching out in front of me and us always hosting Christmas when in laws are eventually unable to, and her never needing to, just because we are a couple.

is this normal?? Should we try address it and suggest she hosts this/ one year? Grateful for your views!

OP posts:
deirdrerasheed · 03/10/2025 16:17

You've created this dynamic yourself you've taught your in laws how to treat you as you "like big family Christmases'. If you've not been to her house on five years there is no hope of her hosting Christmas. Scale back year on year so it becomes a roast dinner and some gifts.

OneMintWasp · 03/10/2025 16:18

I absolutely love hosting. But my MIL wont let me. It all has to happen at her house which is too small for us to fit in and means the kids get an hour at home then have to leave and spend the next 48hrs away from the toys theyve just been given. I think its because at our house we do an open house and there is a danger she might have to mix with my family too!

deirdrerasheed · 03/10/2025 16:18

Token gifts like the royals.

WallLight · 03/10/2025 16:20

Startrekobsessed · 03/10/2025 13:37

How have I judged her? I’m asking whether I can broach that she’s never hosted or whether it’s normal for people who live alone not to

She doesn’t host because she doesn’t want to. You host because you like big family Christmases. If it’s causing you this much angst, just stop. Eat an Indian takeaway in front of The Sound of Music instead this year.

jonthebatiste · 03/10/2025 16:22

My single SIL never hosts and is quite open and jolly about the reasons for it.

(1) she can’t cook (this is true)
(2) she has a low stress life, and catering for 7-12 people is more stress than she can handle (3) if she can’t have the benefits of a family of her own, she doesn’t want the work of entertaining other people’s family
(4) she doesn’t want to spend the money after spending thousands over the years attending weddings and children’s birthdays and none of that reciprocated
(5) she likes being waited on by her parents because she finds her low stress single life stressful, and just wants a few days to regress to childhood. She’s 39.

I actually really like SIL, she’s a tremendous woman who has dealt with the cards life has thrown at her with real grace and courage. But she isn’t half mental sometimes 😂

wfhwfh · 03/10/2025 16:22

It’s not reasonable to expect someone without children to entertain you, your spouse and your children. The incremental cost and work increase for her compared with you is vastly different - and it’s not the life she’s signed up to. You talk about the mental load but - as a parent - either you and/or your husband will always bear the mental load for your children and organising their Christmas. You can’t outsource that to a childless person (however affluent).

Also a family coming into a single person’s home would totally take over - no matter their intentions. Whereas a single person coming into a family home will naturally fit into your dynamic - which will be all around the children, particularly at Christmas.

What is reasonable though is to expect her to contribute on the day - for example, taking a pudding/drinks/cracker and helping out on the day with entertaining the children or clearing up after dinner. It’s not rude to say to her “Could you bring along X, Y and Z” and specify what would help.

Alternatively, it’s totally reasonable for you to say you are having Christmas just your husband and children. And if you think that would be a lot less work and stop resentment, I would do this.

Jom222 · 03/10/2025 16:23

Its sad and telling that OP is choosing not to respond to any comments about her internalized misogyny. 100% guarantee this post would never have been made if OP had BIL not SIL.

I'm married w/o children and H and I hosted a big holiday once. It was a fucking disaster and we never offered and it was never implied for us to offer again. We did all enjoy ourselves but the kids in attendance omg they tried to behave but being with all their cousins in a strange home, things were broken, there were minor injuries from silly playing etc. Nobody could relax the entire time.

Its unfair to everyone to drag small children to childless aunties house for a long visit on a holiday, it sets them up for failure instead of a happy relaxing day.

coxesorangepippin · 03/10/2025 16:24

Well, why should she bother hosting when other people are willing to do it???

Meadowfinch · 03/10/2025 16:26

When I was single, I had a 3 bed house, but never hosted. I'd never cooked a three course meal, and could no more guarantee anything edible than I could fly.

Now I have DCs I'm used to turning out meals for eight plus dessert without having to think too much about it.

OP, can't you remember the days when supper consisted of a glass of wine some nice bread, goat's cheese & olives?

Gingercar · 03/10/2025 16:29

Startrekobsessed · 03/10/2025 14:03

Yes I would. I cook because my husband is rubbish at a roast and frankly he is much better at entertaining our 3 children alone than I am.

Well it sounds like his sister is similar to your husband! It’s not their thing.

Tyler4689 · 03/10/2025 16:30

It’s a tough one.

We have similar in my family. My mum is married and has two grown up ch (my brother and I, in our 30s). Her sister is single, always has been, no children. She’s early 50s.

Every Sunday my mum and grandma alternate between hosting Sunday dinner. It’s been this way since I was a child. It used to be me, mum, dad, brother, auntie and four grandparents. I only have one grandparent left now, my grandma. My brother and I don’t go every week any more (I live an hour away with my boyfriend, we have a new baby etc). So it’s a smaller affair now, used to be 9 of us religiously but now it’s my one grandma, mum, dad and auntie, and sometimes my brother, sometimes my boyfriend and I.

But anyway. My auntie has NEVER offered to host. She has a big house/space. She’s well off, very high up in her field. Has expensive hobbies etc etc so finances aren’t an issue.
My mum and grandma (who alternate hosting each week) are happy to do it, and they aren’t wildly bothered that my auntie never hosts, but it has been mentioned in private a few times. A mild irritant is that she doesn’t even bother/offer to bring anything. When my grandma hosts, my mum often takes desert or wine. When mum hosts, grandma always brings wine. Auntie never takes anything either. It wouldn’t hurt her to bring a bottle or even a shop bought crumble or trifle!

My mum sometimes grumbles to grandma about it, and grandma defends my auntie by saying “well she’s on her own, it’s a lot for her to host.” But my grandma is also on her own and manages just fine. Also my mum has my dad but to be fair, he does nothing to help. Mum does all the food shopping, food prep, and cooking.

Ive never hosted because, as previously mentioned we live an hour away and grandma wouldn’t do that round trip, she’s a home bird. But when my boyfriend and I do attend mums or grandmas, my boyfriend (who loves to cook) always takes his special roast potatoes, or I do some baking, and we always take wine.

Back to my auntie, I’m conflicted how I feel.
Half of me thinks- she could offer to host, ffs. Even if it was only every couple of months. Make an effort. She’s got more money than everyone else put together so she can afford it. She has the time, her weekends are very leisurely. It’s cheeky how she turns up every week without bringing an offering, just eating food other people have paid for and cooked. And at least if she really, really couldn’t bear to do that, she could bring a bloody bottle of wine or shop bought desert.
The other half of me thinks though, she obviously doesn’t want to host, so fair play that she doesn’t. My grandma is used to cooking for a family, as is my mum, whereas auntie has only ever had to look after herself, so cooking for a small group may seem daunting.

dontmalbeconme · 03/10/2025 16:31

Assuming OP has 3 kids and they're a family of 5, then she and her DH should be hosting 62.5% of the time anyway. If PIL are happy to host on SILs portion (12.5%) as well as picking up slacking OP/DHs extra 12.5% of the time, then that's very kind of them.

OP and her DH are CFs if they make up 62.5% of the guests but only want to host 33% of the time (which seems to be what OP wants - a 1 in 3 rotation).

OPs DH seems lazy and not pulling his weight.

warmapplepies · 03/10/2025 16:33

Nobody should feel pressured into hosting whether they're single and child-free, married with ten children or somewhere in between.

DH and I are child-free and never host Christmas.

BernardButlersBra · 03/10/2025 16:33

I would be addressing it. My single brother has never hosted Christmas and is approaching mid 40's 🙄. I am declining to host this year as it isn't my turn, this revelation isn't going to go down well most likely. My brother like your SIL is not married but is in a relationship and is probably earns about £100-120k. Some people think they are too "busy" and other people can do the donkey work

At least your SIL isn't like my mums sister. Turns up for a fortnight at Christmas at my mum's house empty handed. Expects to be fed and entertained every single day

Tandora · 03/10/2025 16:34

Startrekobsessed · 03/10/2025 13:26

No it doesn’t mean she ‘has’ to but we are very much expected to so why isn’t she? I wouldn’t expect MIL to host every year that’s not fair on her either, she has to host SIL on the years we are with my family.

I understand the having it just our small family but frankly I like big family Christmases so don’t want to deprive my children of that, I’m just unsure why we aren’t spreading the load between 3 of us instead of 2

Because she doesn't have a partner or children op

wfhwfh · 03/10/2025 16:34

dontmalbeconme · 03/10/2025 16:31

Assuming OP has 3 kids and they're a family of 5, then she and her DH should be hosting 62.5% of the time anyway. If PIL are happy to host on SILs portion (12.5%) as well as picking up slacking OP/DHs extra 12.5% of the time, then that's very kind of them.

OP and her DH are CFs if they make up 62.5% of the guests but only want to host 33% of the time (which seems to be what OP wants - a 1 in 3 rotation).

OPs DH seems lazy and not pulling his weight.

I just re-read that there are 3 children. No WAY would I be expecting my own lovely childless sister to put up my family of 5 at Christmas. An extra auntie is not much extra work - especially if she plays with the children and brings along some treats (as our one does).

SunnySideDeepDown · 03/10/2025 16:38

Startrekobsessed · 03/10/2025 13:34

She’ll do some veg prep on the day and helps with the washing up, so it’s not that she doesn’t do anything at all. But she doesn’t have to sort the whole day plus all the mental load of it, ever. She’s never contributed anything or brought anything with her, MIL does though.

I guess I don’t want to wait another 15 years for the kids to be grown up and only then be able to say are you going to host now? I’m sure it will feel too late by then!

I’m struggling to see why you’re making this an issue when it really doesn’t need to be. Hosting comes with pros as well. You can drink, you have all your stuff around you, you can fully relax.

Christmas is about cheer, no? About enjoying your family. I’m just not sure why you’re making it an issue because you think it may continue into the future. No one knows what the future holds. Just enjoy the moment, share the hosting with in laws and be thankful for a lovely family.

WallLight · 03/10/2025 16:38

warmapplepies · 03/10/2025 16:33

Nobody should feel pressured into hosting whether they're single and child-free, married with ten children or somewhere in between.

DH and I are child-free and never host Christmas.

Exactly. We host every year, my family on Christmas Day and DH’s family on Boxing Day, and even when we lived in another country, we used to come back to our home city, rent an Airbnb and host there. Because we enjoy it. If we didn’t, we wouldn’t do it. I have four siblings and none of them ever host — they like coming to ours, which is fine by me, though in the event of them wanting a change, I’m fine with that too.

FeeLipa · 03/10/2025 16:39

My SIL has never hosted, or contributed either with bringing along food or helping cook in the past 20+ years. It's a case of she has nowhere else to go so she comes as a package deal with PIL.

She will arrive expecting to be waited on, snatch food and loudly critique what she didn't like. I can't do it anymore, so for the past few years her and PIL have been booking Christmas dinner at a nice pub. (Last year FIL complained that she didn't offer anything towards the bill)

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 03/10/2025 16:39

You’ve said this has been happening for 15 years.

How old are your kids?

If they’re teenagers, why the hell does your DH even need to “look after them” on Christmas Day?

And if they’re still young, what was your DH doing during the first 10 years while you were cooking Xmas dinner for his family (and he had no kids to “look after”)?

Did he actually help back then?

You’re taking this out on the wrong person. Your husband sounds utterly crap. Can he not even handle some brussel sprouts?!

Uptightmumma · 03/10/2025 16:39

We do an early Christmas with my in laws. MIL and husbands 3 siblings and their families, either we or SIL host, never MIL never husbands other siblings, so this year should be our turn and I am refusing to do it!! Cost & effort and it’s just expected

Mathsthoughts · 03/10/2025 16:41

I think YANBU OP. I have similar relatives and it gets very wearing.

MyElatedUmberFinch · 03/10/2025 16:44

Unfortunately I think it’s normal and it’s definitely unfair. Even if she hosted once every 7 years or something it would help. I have a SIL like this.

ilovesooty · 03/10/2025 16:45

jonthebatiste · 03/10/2025 16:22

My single SIL never hosts and is quite open and jolly about the reasons for it.

(1) she can’t cook (this is true)
(2) she has a low stress life, and catering for 7-12 people is more stress than she can handle (3) if she can’t have the benefits of a family of her own, she doesn’t want the work of entertaining other people’s family
(4) she doesn’t want to spend the money after spending thousands over the years attending weddings and children’s birthdays and none of that reciprocated
(5) she likes being waited on by her parents because she finds her low stress single life stressful, and just wants a few days to regress to childhood. She’s 39.

I actually really like SIL, she’s a tremendous woman who has dealt with the cards life has thrown at her with real grace and courage. But she isn’t half mental sometimes 😂

Good for her.

MyElatedUmberFinch · 03/10/2025 16:45

warmapplepies · 03/10/2025 16:33

Nobody should feel pressured into hosting whether they're single and child-free, married with ten children or somewhere in between.

DH and I are child-free and never host Christmas.

Why not?