Page 5 | To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

Longingdreamer · 2025-10-02T20:17:05+00:00

... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

Clueless12389 · 02/10/2025 23:50

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Absolutely agree. A few years ago there seemed to be an Islamic atrocity in the UK on an almost monthly basis.

they’ve been less active, or perhaps the security services are better at stopping attacks, but I can’t remember a single attack by Jews against civilians on UK soil.

I’ve certainly never felt uncomfortable with openly Jewish people or trains/packed places but sadly there are several areas of London that don’t feel welcoming for a non Muslim woman.

KTheGrey · 02/10/2025 23:50

Deerfolk · 02/10/2025 22:36

UK — Islamophobic attacks on mosques, Muslim institutions, and Muslim cemeteries

(covering the past two years: 2 Oct 2023 → 2 Oct 2025) — UK-only, non-exhaustive, focused on widely-reported/high-impact incidents and patterns

Below I’ve pulled together the key incidents and patterns reported in UK media and NGO monitoring. Each item has a short description and a source you can read for details.

Major incidents & patterns

30 July 2024 — Southport (Merseyside): mob violence outside Southport Mosque; windows damaged, clashes with police and wider far-right-linked unrest that spread to many towns.
Early August 2024 — Nationwide (riot week 30 July–5 Aug 2024): multiple attacks, vandalism and threats targeting mosques, Muslim community centres, and businesses during the week of far-right unrest (hundreds arrested; many local reports of mosque damage and targeted attacks).
5 August 2024 — Burnley Cemetery (Lancashire): multiple Muslim graves reported vandalised; police investigated as hate crime as part of the unrest period.
Jan 2025 (reported) — London: at least seven London mosques and a Muslim school were vandalised with Islamophobic graffiti in a wave of attacks; police and community groups treated this as a coordinated pattern of harassment.
Mar–Apr 2025 — London and wider England: a continuing wave of anti-Muslim vandalism and threats (multiple mosques, community centres and at least one Muslim school reported targeted across London boroughs); NGOs and Tell MAMA recorded rising reports and community alarm.
14 April 2025 — Watford / Carpenders Park Lawn Cemetery (Hertfordshire): large-scale vandalism reported — dozens of Muslim graves and grave markers badly damaged (press reported ~85 graves affected); police launched a hate-crime investigation.

Longer-term monitoring / statistics

NGOs & trackers (Tell MAMA, Hope not Hate, CLAIM network, others) reported sustained increases in anti-Muslim incidents during 2024–2025 (including threats, doxxing, graffiti, vandalism of mosques and cemeteries, and harassment of Muslim schools). These organisations publish rolling summaries and incident logs that document the many local, smaller-scale events not always covered in national press.

Notes on scope & sources

This list is UK-only and covers widely reported/high-impact incidents and aggregated NGO findings. There are many smaller local reports (graffiti, threats, online doxxing, brief vandalism) that community groups and police record; NGO trackers (Tell MAMA, Hope not Hate) are the best place for comprehensive incident logs.
The Watford / Carpenders Park cemetery incident (April 14, 2025) is the most prominent recent example specifically involving large-scale damage to a Muslim cemetery in the period covered.

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No murders so your data isn’t comparable. If you don’t detail the harassment that Jewish communities have suffered in the same time period, such data offers no real opportunity for consideration of differences or similarities.

clipboardz · 02/10/2025 23:51

@1tensmum1 are muslims facing persecution in the UK? from who?

Whatado · 02/10/2025 23:54

Longingdreamer · 02/10/2025 23:46

It's so bloody predictable, that when talking about a terrorist attack on the Jewish community ,instead of condemning the attack and offering sympathy, people try to:
A) minimise
B) Justify

I can't imagine this would happen if it was a terrorist attack on any other community.

The reactions here are symptomatic of the growing Anti-Semitism in the UK

You arent talking about it in isolation and condemning and speaking about sympathy.

You are implying that is so much worse because the victims were Jewish and it happened on a significant religious date, than the horrific murders of victims of all the other terrorist attacks in the UK.

It isnt.

Its all horrendously sad.

And its not a competition were some human life holds more value than others. And the position of some people in society that it does is part of the cycle that allows these things to coutinue to happen.

Fibonacci2 · 02/10/2025 23:56

What, drawn and talk of peace? I hate the word/As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee.’

Some people have no interest in peace and never will.

Fibonacci2 · 02/10/2025 23:58

(That’s not directed at any group specifically)

Toodleleetoodleeo · 03/10/2025 00:01

CopperWhite · 02/10/2025 21:33

No minorities are protected in this country. There is a rise in racism and xenophobia in general, Jews are no different to any of the other minorities that are feeling unsafe.

Im in Manchester and I can honestly say I never hear anything about Jews. I do hear a lot of racism towards Muslim, Asian, Indian and Nigerian people though

I'm not saying there isn't racism towards Jews, clearly their is. But in my area at least, their not even on the radar for people to hate them

Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 00:06

Whatado · 02/10/2025 23:31

And your point is exactly what in comparison to other terrorist attacks?

There is always a reason behind them which is underpinned by hate. Be it hate of Jewish, Catholic, white black, Muslim, English, Irish people the list is endless.

The attack today is no more tragic than the Warrington bomb, July 7th..the Westminster attack etc

Because people should be able to acknowledge the value of human life and pain of loss as a result, irrespective of race or religion.

As for pro Palestine protests today, why would they be stopped? The terrorist attack here hasn't stopped the genocide in Gaza or the illegal actions of the Israeli government, which highlighting is the purpose of these protests.

Maybe stopped because, you know, it’s sometimes good to be a decent human being. But apparently the people marching didn’t give a toss anyway. It was noted there was more than one comment coming from the people on the marches saying they couldn’t give a fuck about what happened to the Jews in Manchester today. I guess at least they’re telling us what vile individuals they are. There’s a special place in Hell for people like that.

KTheGrey · 03/10/2025 00:08

Clueless12389 · 02/10/2025 23:50

Absolutely agree. A few years ago there seemed to be an Islamic atrocity in the UK on an almost monthly basis.

they’ve been less active, or perhaps the security services are better at stopping attacks, but I can’t remember a single attack by Jews against civilians on UK soil.

I’ve certainly never felt uncomfortable with openly Jewish people or trains/packed places but sadly there are several areas of London that don’t feel welcoming for a non Muslim woman.

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I don’t recall any Jewish people committing terrorist acts against civilians in the UK. I also think it’s disrespectful to respond to a terrorist act by starting talking about other oppressed minorities. It has no relevance and it does not justify killing those who died today at their places of worship. Those saying ‘what about …’ on the same day as an attack on peaceful people going to worship should realise that not everything is about them and show some respect and compassion.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 03/10/2025 00:09

OiOiSavveloy · 02/10/2025 23:33

It’s Remembrance Day next month.
Starmer will have the gall to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph just like he did last year. When watching this year, let’s not forget how he recognises the State of Palestine.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Fd2vausJPzE

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here? Starmer can commemorate Remembrance Day and also recognise Palestine - I don’t think there’s a tension between the two.

Cluborange666 · 03/10/2025 00:09

I think it must be awful being Jewish or Muslim in today’s UK. I feel so sorry for you all. There is so much uninformed hatred and then social media whips it all up x 1000.

SlimSchadee · 03/10/2025 00:09

Thank you @Longingdreamer for starting this thread. I am sure that while every Jewish person in the UK is heartbroken, grief-stricken and angered by today’s terrorist attack in Manchester, I am equally sure that not one of us is at all shocked or surprised.

Week after week for two years now the various police forces have allowed hundreds of thousands of people to march with vile slogans and intimidating messages. While peaceful protest and assembly are certainly allowed, there were thousands of incidents of proscribed, illegal language and imagery being used and the Met and other forces seemed to always have a reason why they couldn’t make the arrests they were meant to.

The atmosphere of continual threats to and intimidation of Jews in the UK contributed to this directly and has been allowed to flourish.

This is on the current and past UK governments who did not get a handle on it and were not able to manage their own police forces.

My first thought when I heard about today’s horrific murders was that if the terrorist hadn’t been killed, there would have been plenty of people around who would have celebrated him.

The way that the Jews in this country have been treated is absolutely disgusting. Hearing Kier Starmer’s ridiculous speech this evening pledging support made my blood boil.

And in echoes of Rochester and Southport, it took 12 hours for the government to admit that the murderer was in fact an Islamist.

We are living in a horrific age.

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Livelovebehappy · 03/10/2025 00:09

Toodleleetoodleeo · 03/10/2025 00:01

Im in Manchester and I can honestly say I never hear anything about Jews. I do hear a lot of racism towards Muslim, Asian, Indian and Nigerian people though

I'm not saying there isn't racism towards Jews, clearly their is. But in my area at least, their not even on the radar for people to hate them

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Because generally they just go about their lives without screaming hatred towards others. They have more reason than most to take themselves into London to do counter protest marches against the hostile Pro Hamas ones. But they don’t.

Willyoujustbequiet · 03/10/2025 00:10

I agree OP and some of the responses you've received have proven your point.

The whataboutery on this thread is ill-timed, ignorant and disrespectful. Read the bloody room.

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Longingdreamer · 03/10/2025 00:12

Willyoujustbequiet · 03/10/2025 00:10

I agree OP and some of the responses you've received have proven your point.

The whataboutery on this thread is ill-timed, ignorant and disrespectful. Read the bloody room.

Thank you. The whatabouterry is incredibly insensitive.

I didn't think I would be shocked by the lack of compassion, but I have been.

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Longingdreamer · 03/10/2025 00:14

SlimSchadee · 03/10/2025 00:09

Thank you @Longingdreamer for starting this thread. I am sure that while every Jewish person in the UK is heartbroken, grief-stricken and angered by today’s terrorist attack in Manchester, I am equally sure that not one of us is at all shocked or surprised.

Week after week for two years now the various police forces have allowed hundreds of thousands of people to march with vile slogans and intimidating messages. While peaceful protest and assembly are certainly allowed, there were thousands of incidents of proscribed, illegal language and imagery being used and the Met and other forces seemed to always have a reason why they couldn’t make the arrests they were meant to.

The atmosphere of continual threats to and intimidation of Jews in the UK contributed to this directly and has been allowed to flourish.

This is on the current and past UK governments who did not get a handle on it and were not able to manage their own police forces.

My first thought when I heard about today’s horrific murders was that if the terrorist hadn’t been killed, there would have been plenty of people around who would have celebrated him.

The way that the Jews in this country have been treated is absolutely disgusting. Hearing Kier Starmer’s ridiculous speech this evening pledging support made my blood boil.

And in echoes of Rochester and Southport, it took 12 hours for the government to admit that the murderer was in fact an Islamist.

We are living in a horrific age.

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Hugs, I feel exactly the same

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clipboardz · 03/10/2025 00:14

It's so insidious @Longingdreamer

KenAdams · 03/10/2025 00:18

CopperWhite · 02/10/2025 22:08

There’s plenty of evidence that hostility towards Muslims and other minorities happens and is increasing. I am not missing the point at all. Your point was that Jews are not protected in the country. My point is that nor are most people (Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, women) and Jews are no different. It is all equally horrific.

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Absolutely these, general intolerance of anyone slightly different is on the rise

BUT

Today it was our JEWISH brothers and sisters that were attacked, not another religion.

I'm not sure wtf people are thinking playing anti semitic Top Trumps on this thread.

Today we mourn with the Jewish community and our thoughts are with you x

OakleyAnnie · 03/10/2025 00:22

CopperWhite · 02/10/2025 21:54

Mosques and Muslim schools do not require armed guards,

private security is not ‘armed guards’, which are provided by the police. Muslims don’t tend to segregate themselves into separate schools so that is not comparable. Mosques arguably have equally high a need for private security, but they choose not to pay for it whereas Synagogues do.

This is utter rubbish. Those security guards were members of their community volunteering and on a rota. My shul has men and women taking turns on security. It’s not paid.

Fibonacci2 · 03/10/2025 00:24

KenAdams · 03/10/2025 00:18

Absolutely these, general intolerance of anyone slightly different is on the rise

BUT

Today it was our JEWISH brothers and sisters that were attacked, not another religion.

I'm not sure wtf people are thinking playing anti semitic Top Trumps on this thread.

Today we mourn with the Jewish community and our thoughts are with you x

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Couldn’t have said it better. Thank you.

youve987456 · 03/10/2025 00:24

I do think there is growing levels of anti semitism, islamaphobia and hatred of other groups of people that are generally not white. However, I don't think today's attack is a reflection of it, there was one perpetrator.

doorbellringer2 · 03/10/2025 00:27

SummerFeverVenice · 02/10/2025 21:57

This is interesting reading
https://assets.poolre.co.uk/sitefiles/2025/01/Pool-Re-Annual-Threat-Report-2024.pdf

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In the what way do you mean? The company who produced the report definitely have a reason to downplay any terrorist risk. They are in cahoots with the government, I guess, to reassure foreign investors that the UK is a safe place to invest.
”Pool Re is a mutual reinsurance company which works in partnership with the UK Government and the insurance industry to ensure that every business in Great Britain can access affordable and comprehensive terrorism insurance. We use our expertise, experience, resources and relationships to help policyholders to understand terrorism risk and identify what they can do to protect their businesses.”

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Longingdreamer · 03/10/2025 00:27

youve987456 · 03/10/2025 00:24

I do think there is growing levels of anti semitism, islamaphobia and hatred of other groups of people that are generally not white. However, I don't think today's attack is a reflection of it, there was one perpetrator.

There was more than one perpetrator. It was a terrorist cell and there have been several arrests as well as the one who was shot. There may be further arrests to come.

It is sadly symptomatic of a much larger problem.

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Karmakamelion · 03/10/2025 00:28

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It's not a race to the bottom

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Longingdreamer · 03/10/2025 00:29

KenAdams · 03/10/2025 00:18

Absolutely these, general intolerance of anyone slightly different is on the rise

BUT

Today it was our JEWISH brothers and sisters that were attacked, not another religion.

I'm not sure wtf people are thinking playing anti semitic Top Trumps on this thread.

Today we mourn with the Jewish community and our thoughts are with you x

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Thank you for your support and understanding

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