To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

Totally agree
i have been shocked and saddened by reading past threads about Jews being fearful, as I am today by these terrible events and by the examples given of hate crimes against others

i just can’t comprehend it. But I do see the hate start to spill out on this and so many other threads. Dismaying

There has been the same amount of terrorist attacks on synagogues as there has been on mosques - one each. The mosque one may have been a few years back but it does still count.

Where? I can’t recall one single terrorist attack on a Mosque in the UK. Ever. But I’m happy to be proved wrong if you have an example…

Exactly - my DS volunteers to do security at his shul. It’s not paid for, it’s done on a rota by the congregation. Every time he’s on duty I’m scared for him. And my fears for him have just been proven by those poor people being murdered. In England. In the 21st fucking century. This is not okay.

The minimisation and whataboutery on this thread is shocking. Jews present no threat in this country to ANYONE. Yet they’re not safe in their own places of worship.

The pro-Hamas lot out protesting will justify this by claiming it was provoked by Israel or Zionism, but predators attack vulnerability and antisemitism would be even worse if Jewish people did not have Israel as security. Imagine what antisemites would be getting away with right now if Jewish people did not have a state with which to defend themselves.

Here you are:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42910051.amp

It's telling that you cannot recall it when it was a big news item at the time and not that long ago.

we are scared. I didn’t go to Rosh Hashanah services this year because I didn’t want to be in synagogue in case it was targeted. I missed a Jewish concert this month. I had tickets but was worried about being in the known Jewish centre for a Jewish event. I went to Yom Kippur services last night and today because we were the overflow service in a secular building unconnected to the synagogue. It’s no way to live in the 21st-century.

Absolutely agree - I can’t believe the protests have been allowed to continue and it is just accepted. If it had been an attack on an Islamic place of worship and an anti immigration or reform rally took place could you imagine the frothing fury from the left. Can’t believe what I’m witnessing in my own country.

No, it exists in a context of people attempting to justify it, minimise it and in the words of Norm Macdonald claim ‘the real victim here’ status.

The whataboutery and deflection on this thread is reminding me of the Norm MacDonald joke: 'What terrifies me is if ISIS were to detonate a nuclear bomb that kills 50 million Americans. Imagine the backlash against peaceful Muslims?'

The fact that Jewish nursery schools have to have security tells you that this is a very specific hatred. (And the fact that this security is normalised should be a matter of national shame.)

That's not true. There are many more Muslim faith schools than Jewish ones.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=faithschoolersanonymous.uk/category/muslim-schools/&ved=2ahUKEwi57sXy2IaQAxUkdUEAHaNvBoAQFnoECEsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3mflJwaXPuCtWWWJ06Yn29

Jewish numbers of faith schools are lower, and lots of these have quite a few non Jewish pupils as well.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.jpr.org.uk/reports/numbers-jewish-children-jewish-schools%23:~:text%3DThere%2520are%2520136%2520Jewish%2520schools,the%2520academic%2520year%25202023/24.&ved=2ahUKEwiv7LqM2YaQAxVCXEEAHbBYMEkQzsoNegQIBhAM&usg=AOvVaw3DCTAa3aX5PTeknv_g13LM

There's increasing demonisation of white people too that you forgot to include.

it’s always been their reason for flag waving though for the vast majority of this bunch: Jew hate, plain and simple.

As a Christian, 💐 No one should have to live like this. Tackling anti Semitism should be a national priority.

Non Jews need to call out anti Semitism wherever possible. False narratives promoted by Hamas & Co. need to be stamped on.

White people in general aren't afraid the way Jews are.

I definitely think other groups have reason to be scared too : look at that poor Sikh woman raped, the Sikh taxi drivers beaten up & the 9yo black girl shot at with an air rifle.

But I can see exactly WHY Jews are especially scared

They do have their own schools - as do almost all faiths here in Manchester. We are very mixed - and there are multiple schools that cater for just Jewish children and just Muslim children. HTH

I have never in my life felt threatened by a Jewish cause in the uk….ever… has there ever been a Jewish uk terror threat? The ‘justified hatred of Jews’ in the uk right now is so horrible. Regardless of what the Israeli government is doing, is that a justified reason for the ‘kill Jews’ protest because that’s what they are. In the same way I’d never support an anti Islamic protest because some Islamic countries jail unmarried and gay couples or people that drink alcohol. It’s crazy to me some of the leftist people I know support some of the most serious dictatorships with the worst record of human exploitation (since the colonies).

I don't like Netanyahu at all & I disagree with a lot of the Israeli government's actions in Gaza.

But there is also lot of terrible misinformation.

On SM I see Nova & Hamas terrorism dismissed as 'hasbara', I see 'genocide' and 'deliberately starvation' thrown around with little understanding of the facts that Israel by all appearances are providing food, that Hamas steals it a lot.

Also no understanding that Hamas using civilians as human shields makes it tragically very hard not to harm civilians when trying to kill Hamas. And that Palestiniams have been scared by Hamas into staying because they are told they won't be allowed back, so it's really hard situation to ameliorate.

Countries like Qatar are funding these narratives via Islamic studies courses in the US (probably similar mechanisms here, also SM spreads US stuff here) We need to beware of dark money.

There is ofc a lot of other issues but misinformation is a KEY one

I'm not Jewish but I'm absolutely appalled by the way anti semitism is frequently ignored in this country. The fear that many Jewish people live in Britain is very much under reported. It's not a fashionable cause seemingly.

This has been a terrible occurrence in Manchester and any hint of whataboutery, especially since Thursday morning, is disgusting.

Media has been guilty of serious errors too.

Eg this poor boy was not just starving, he had cerebal palsy.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/08/04/how-a-photo-of-a-skeletal-child-sparked-controversy-about-starvation-in-gaza

When we see a child in that horrific condition, we must never lose empathy.

But that doesn't mean that we don't also think about the narrative.

Eg. We know now that Alan Kurdi's photograph was staged and that his family had asylum in Turkey so the initial narrative was misleading.

More examples of this.

https://www.thefp.com/p/they-became-symbols-for-gazan-starvation?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

The responses on this thread are eyeopening are they?

Another one

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.thefp.com/p/poster-children-of-gazas-hunger-crisis&ved=2ahUKEwio1baM44aQAxViVEEAHWnmGHQQFnoECEwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1rW7rnsrx8Twlcg-vUjTME

Why are you using this thread to start a conspiracy that children in Gaza are not starving?