To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

You are probably right, to be fair.
However, at a time when words can be misconstrued, I think it is really important to be accurate. There is no room for nuance.

By the police and government asking the marches to not march tomorrow they are effectively acknowledging that these marches are inflammatory towards the Jewish community. Time to ban and arrest anyone attending these marches. They are a hate crime.

Which just shows how crazy it is to shoot on a wooden door surely?
Not when you know you have a whole congregation behind said doors.

Agreed. One of my neighbours has just created a WhatsApp group for our cul de sac neighbourhood. The speed with which people started engaging with each other was great. Some people who hadn't said a word to each other before.

As we have freedom of speech and the right to peaceful protest in this country, that won't be happening. Much as I would have like to have seen the far-right rally in London stopped, even those racist fuckwits have freedom of speech and protest.

Feeling awful for the police who inadvertently shot 2 people while putting his now life on the line and dealing with a potential bomb situation.

👏👏👏 this should be pinned to every thread discussing the topic.

Interesting you know better than the International Court of Justice.

I hope you’ve send them all the info you have that proves Theres no genocide in Gaza. Because that’s pretty important stuff

'There isnt a genocide being comitted in Gaza. ' Ok, I mean I'm going to probably believe the news reports, UN, WHO, & charities on the ground over some random on the internet, but you do you.

yup, they have got that totally wrong - let them know.

Great post.

And they barely apply to America anymore. Separation of church and state? Nope. Freedom of speech? Nope. Freedom of religion? Nope.

American values currently seem to be creeping towards the worst of religious extremism. Rolling back healthcare for women, removing DEI measures designed to break the stranglehold of white (mostly male) generational wealth, reduction in opportunity for marginalised groups, insistence of bullshit Christian nonsense in schools, using government departments to pressure media companies into curtailing free speech.

@RingoJuice get your own house in order before you seek to critique ours.

It must feel like shite to kill someone at all, TBH, but armed officers are chosen carefully and trained so hopefully he/she can make peace with the fact that it was an accident that happened while trying to save lives.

Ah yes, the UN, always reliable.
They given out any of the food thats been stockpiled in Gaza yet or are they still kicking their heels refusing to collect it and pretending that Israel is preventing aid from getting through.
How's their tunnels doing under UNWRA? Still crawling? Still got Hamas on the payroll?

UN, Hah.

So you, an American, has more right to define what is British than the actual British people? Wild.

You’ve been brainwashed and fed propaganda. The same technique that worked so effectively in convincing millions of Eastern Europeans to permit the killing of millions of Jews under their noses. If they could be convinced then so can you. The truth will come out. We won’t wait for your retractions.

Complete nonsense, you are talking utter rubbish. Not one Pakistani would accept your white baby as Pakistanti. How could it be, with not a drop of Pakistani blood, no share in their ancient and culturally rich heritage. You just turn up, birth your baby and decide it is as Pakistani as they are because you and a piece of paper says so? I think its incredibly insulting. I suggest many of them would see such a thing as laughable, and you as a fool. They would be quite correct. Your words are coming across as naive and silly. People wring their hands over cultural approbation when it comes to henna tattoos but you think you can just turn up and produce a white child and insist it's the same as the indigenous people?

If you dont like the stats - feel free to go and check them, present your findings.

Or you can parrot political organisations. You do you amirite?

Yep, I've never seen this. It probably has happened the odd time but it's certainly not widespread.

It seems to be the same type of accusation that state schools are deliberately scheduling open days to co-incide with Jewish holy days - baseless.

You would like to take people's rights away to protest? You would like to classify protests as a hate crime?
Are you a communist?

I don't think you should be calling people 'morons' when you can't even spell and are trying to contradict the UN and the ICJ.

And this isn't the thread for your virulent hatred.

You are right to pick me up on this.

This is the comment I was responding to:

I expect the British government’s mealy mouthed criticism of the genocide being perpetrated by Israel in Gaza has possibly if anything actually made things worse in terms of antisemitism in the UK. What the British government should have been making repeating all along is that Israel’s genocide in what was Gaza is abhorrent (I saw “was” because the region is now transformed - in huge parts just a wasteland of rubble) , but that British Jews bear no responsibility whatsoever for the actions of the Israeli government (or at least no more than other British citizen, who have collectively failed to pressure their government into a fitting response).

British Jews bear no responsibility for what is happening in Gaza; whether they support it or not, it is not their responsibility. I read it as that they didn't support it, when some of them do. My error.
I will say that British citizens in their marches are trying to pressurize the British govt into a response. So many are condemning them for marching, I know.

@PraisebetoGod this post is actually quite rude. I mean you are complaining about a lack of open mindedness using Aquinas' rather judgmental and close minded quote (if it's even translated correctly form the original).

So, quite similar to many fundamentalist Christian groups, then? 4 IS states don’t even have a minimum age of consent to marry, FFS.

Yet we don’t believe all Christians are threats to western values. In fact a previous poster suggested British values are based on Christian values.

So what is it about Islam that makes you so certain it’s the entire religion at fault?