To think the Manchester terrorist attack today shows the growing Anti-Semitism

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... and how Jews are not protected in this country.

There isn't a gotcha, just an attempt to understand. You said 3 schools had deliberately scheduled open days on Yom Kippur, and I shared a link showing that the open days have been scheduled on various days in Sep and Oct.

There are 3 on 9 October, is that a holy day for a religion too? The

You're now attempting to say most of the kids are Albanians, Kosovans, Algerians, Moroccans without evidence. It's completely bizarre.

www.walthamforest.gov.uk/schools-education-and-learning/apply-school-place/apply-secondary-school/school-open-evening-dates-2025

The fact that synagogues and Jewish school require security tells us that there is a credible threat against the British Jewish community.

Antisemitism has been accepted in the UK for far too long. You could tell things were rotten when no one was prosecuted after a couple of car loads of 'pro-Palestine activists' drove around north London shouting antisemitic abuse.

The whole atmosphere in the UK has permitted this. It has been facilitated by parts of the media, and by the (in)action of some politicians and the police.

when your president promotes Holocaust inversion and community of what (5 thousand?) is non stopped vilified then being offended that someone calls it what it is - antisemitism - is dishonest.

Of course. But I’d like to see the Israeli government also apply this logic rather than always rushing to label its global critics as antisemitic. One quick example, as I’m in the country in question.

www.rte.ie/news/2024/1216/1486678-israeli-embassy/

Which women do you think don't have the right to wear what they like?
Muslim women, white British women, Jewish women?
In reality all of these have the ability to be oppressed and abused by family and partners, that's misogyny. There are women in America being oppressed in America made to be 'trad wives' that aren't allowed to work, have to dress a certain way, have dinner on the table for their husband. Does it matter which country or religion this happens within? Any abuse or oppression is awful but it's not specific to one culture or religion

It was in a previous post where apparently the government wouldn't come out and say its a right of all women to wear and do what they want within the law... But they literally do, so that's why I included the point that the government doesn't say it isn't British values or the right of women to do those things.

Please quote Simon Harris “promoting Holocaust inversion”

They didn't say 'everyone is scared.' They said, 'Jewish people are scared.'

Surely they were talking in this manner because of the context of a terrorist attack against jewish people yesterday?

But Muslim people are scared, Sikh people are scared. Christian people are scared. I could go on. I won't assume it is just one group that is scared. Because if I do, it seems like they may be the only target.

Of course most people are scared of terrorist attacks, I certainly am. But imo it's inappropriate to centre myself when I wasn't the target yesterday. Hope that helps.

I saw that video, it was heartening to see a lovely friendship between them and sad that such a great guy is gone. This is what we need more of, what neighbours to talk to each other. The internet has meant many people isolate themselves from their neighbours.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

Israel call anyone who disagrees with their 'policies' , for want of a better word, antisemitic regardless of how barbaric those polices are. The government there has lost all credibility in the wider world. They're rapidly becoming a pariah nation.

A deep-seated sense of American exceptionalism?

Well there's no surprise. Muslims are taught not to read other holy books. There's a great quote from Thomas Aquinas
“On the contrary, he [Muhammad] perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.”

There has been lots of threads about the rise of flags etc around the country & how minorities have felt about that. I would never dream of going on one of those threads & saying don't worry I'm scared of terrorist attacks as well.

I'm sure there will be an investigation into the shooting of Jewish worshippers by Manchester Police. Stray bullets they say.

whataboutery. 101

yep

Because this person think that we consider ourselves as special chosen people.

Ah ok then. So point the next bloke called Jihad in their direction and then he can sort them out.

For anyone still confused about the whole antisemitism/antizionism thing.... here is a "pro-pal" march in the UK in 2021 - with a group of young men, the age of the Manchester attacker, shouting the first part of a chant referencing the massacre of Jewish tribes in Saudi Arabia at the foundation of Islam. The same chant was recorded being shouted during the Oct 7th massacres in Israel.

Israel is under attack BECAUSE it is a Jewish state. The Jew hatred is real and pervasive in large parts of the Islamic middle east - that hatred has been brought here with them.

This is what the politicians and police have not stamped out on these marches, this is what is leading to the climate of fear for British Jews.

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1973829685315534998

Tank you for sharing this - we need to see and hear more about how normal people get along just fine as neighbours, colleagues, school parents and friends.

It was a bullet going through the door of the synagogue as the Jewish congregation tried to stop the Islamic terrorist entering and slaughtering more people on his anti semetic rampage. The terrorist is responsible for their deaths too, not the police, the Islamic terrorist. He is also responsible for the effects that this will have on the police involved. The man was scum, he has wrecked many lives, don’t you even dare to try and shift any focus on to the police, their actions undoubtedly saved many lives yesterday.

If a policeman has shot an innocent person, then an investigation is quite right to happen. It doesn't automatically mean it was on purpose to kill a Jewish person.

Codswallop.

The Quran says:

“Rather, the Qur'an is clear verses [preserved] in the hearts of those who have been given knowledge."

“Given knowledge” means true engagement with the Quran requires intellectual and spiritual insight. It’s a call to scholars, seekers, and thinkers.

In essence, the Quran doesn’t discourage questioning—it demands it.

you don't even know what i talking about do you?
Do you really thing that using Holocaust against Jews is moral and not antisemitic?

How would you feel about English politician using famine to prove that Irish people are born evil?

unless you are for some reason AND it's completely reasonable to point out that extreme views - whether they are Islamophobic or racist or anti immigrations etc - seem to be on the rise throughout the UK as they are in the same context. And if you read some of the comments on those threads you will find people who are voicing their own fears. Whether or not you agree with those fears or the fact they're being voiced is another thing altogether.

The statement from the GMP says the bullets went through the synagogue doors while people were trying to hold them closed against the attacker and the police were shooting him.

I agree