To think that if you commit a male crime, you should do male time, even if you identify as a woman?

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I know this is a sensitive topic but I’ve been thinking about how justice systems handle trans women who commit serious crimes, especially violent or sexual offences, and whether it’s fair to house them in women’s prisons. To me, if you were born male and commit a crime typically associated with male offenders, particularly one involving violence against women, it seems like common sense that you should serve time in a male facility. Identity doesn’t erase biology or risk in those cases.

AIBU to think fairness and safety, especially for vulnerable female prisoners, should come before ideology?

No people with DSDs maker up 0.17% and please stop using the offensive term intersex

But transwomen are male. The only criteria for being a transwoman is to be male. So either the people thinking TW are not male are batshit crazy or just stupid. I’m not sure which at this point.

yesh. The equality act states a woman is an adult human female. And no male can therefore be a woman. Therefore all males should be barred from any female single sex spaces. And vice versa.

At this stage, I'm going for both

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excellent post

Or simply bare faced liars 🤷‍♀️

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You find the law hilarious @Tandora ?

i agree. I await some nature well reasoned calm arguments refuting the facts that males don’t belong in female single sex spaces. And we all know “transwomen” are male. So I am awaiting eagerly these well thought out arguments with data back up.

No I find people's legal illiteracy hilarious, disturbing , infuriating, exhausting - I don't know whether to laugh or weep at the utter pig headed stupidity. Sorry to be blunt but that is where we are.

Your projection is off the charts mental
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So go on. Let me know what part of the fact the law says a woman is an adult human female is wrong. Do share your deep and meaningful insights.
is it going to e the “sex is a spectrum” one? I so enjoyed that last time.

You do know that housing 'trans' women in women's prisons has caused women prisoners and warders to be sexually and physically attacked? Why should biological men''s sexual and physical safety take priority over women's?

(I use inverted commas for 'trans' above because I believe the men in question weren't actually genuinely trans at all but conniving abusers, who used the right to self-ID to gain access to women's spaces.)

That's not what "the law" says.

Quite. Where in the law does it say that a woman is an adult human male?

Yes it does. It may make you sad but there you go. You can stamp your feet and shout it’s not fair but that is what the law says. A woman is an adult human female. No male can be a woman.

Also, it's just as easy to keep transwomen safe in a men's jail as it is to keep women safe from trans IDing predators in a women's jail. Transwomen who may be subject to abuse because they ID as trans can have their own enclave in a men's prison, not a women's prison.

The equality act says
We use man to refer to all males including boys and men and
We use woman to refer to all females including girls and women
Ergo transwomen are men and that makes them male.
You really should read the act as it will save you making such a fool of yourself in future

Exactly this

You really should understand that the Equality Act applies to limited circumstances only. It does not define “man” and “woman” in all contexts.

I sought to invite intelligent debate here. The responses have been uniformly the responses of ignorant playground bullies who only make themselves look stupid. Enjoy your little rant among yourselves.

It's not what the law says, my dear.

If you are trying to talk about the recent SC judgement - it clarified that in one piece of legislation- the EA 2010- where the words "sex", "woman" and "man" are used they should be interpreted as referring to "biological sex" (simply understood as sex "at birth). This is relevant for interpreting forms of civil law provisions related to lawful/ unlawful discrimination.

Thats it. Thats all the judgement was about.

It doesn't nullify other pieces of legislation like the Gender Recognition Act ,
and it doesn't mean that "the law says a woman is an adult human female".

So you are saying a male with a trans identity is a woman in some areas and not in others? But then they can’t be a women can they? Either you are a woman in all aspects or you are not. It’s not a spectrum.

Yes. You got ir. So when they use the word woman, they’re referring to females. As no human can change sex… a woman is an adult human female.

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So you are saying a male with a trans identity is a woman in some areas and not in others?

This is exactly what "the law" currently provides for , yes.