To think that if you commit a male crime, you should do male time, even if you identify as a woman?

[TheAvidAmberPeer]

I know this is a sensitive topic but I’ve been thinking about how justice systems handle trans women who commit serious crimes, especially violent or sexual offences, and whether it’s fair to house them in women’s prisons. To me, if you were born male and commit a crime typically associated with male offenders, particularly one involving violence against women, it seems like common sense that you should serve time in a male facility. Identity doesn’t erase biology or risk in those cases.

AIBU to think fairness and safety, especially for vulnerable female prisoners, should come before ideology?

That's most definitely not what's going to happen.
It's so beyond absurd you call me a "male supremacist".

And yet there are people without those attributes who fall into the SC judgement's definition of "woman" for the purposes of interpreting the EA. You may want to recheck your scientific knowledge.

He is a fully intact male that doesn't even have a GRC! He is not trans. He is an abusive and predatorial male that has a history of logging women who won't get undressed in front of him. He has shown and proven he will not respect the wishes of women.

Btw him being 'trans' does not make him the Sacred Caste you seem to think he is. His sex is male. And that classification is the only workable, fair, just and scientific classification that has stood the test of time for at least two millennia.

There are no trans identifying men who fall into the Supreme Court's definition of female though, which is the point.

It seems the term delusional is also fitting. As that is what is already most definitely happening. If you think otherwise, delusional fits and you are in for a world of pain. Trans Cult is basically already conceding defeat.

This is batshit crazy. Evidence proves upton was harassing, stalking and gaslighting Peggie. He is a malignant, dangerous, misogynistic narcissistic predator who should be no where near any female in any capacity.

Dr Upton...is not now, has not even been and will not ever be female.

Dr. Upton does not agree with you. Dr. Upton is a trans woman, that means that Dr. Upton recognises/ understands herself to be female, despite having been born with observable male characteristics.

This is the reality of who Dr Upton is: she cannot help it, she cannot change it. You are not required to have her be your doctor, but you cannot change who Dr Upton is ,
or how she sees herself in the world, with the force of your opinions about her.

Dr Upton...is not now, has not even been and will not ever be female.

Dr. Upton does not agree with you. Dr. Upton is a trans woman, that means that Dr. Upton recognises/ understands herself to be female, despite having been born with observable male characteristics.

This is the reality of who Dr Upton is: she cannot help it, she cannot change it. You are not required to have her be your doctor, but you cannot change who Dr Upton is . That is DU's reality regardless of the force of your opinions about her.

Why should people not think youre a male supremacist? You’ve openly stated that the feelings abd wants of males trump any needs or wants of any woman. Thst is the very definition of male supremacy. You’ve been trying to bully and gaslight women into admitting men into female spaces, you’ve called women unwilling to accept that these males are not women transphobes and bigots, you’ve mocked a rape survivor and you have defended a male who has made it clear he will violate the boundaries of women who request female care. That to me shows you are a male supremacist. Which is fine. You do you.

have a biscuit. 🍪
(And stop projecting your bizarre fantasies onto me).

Dr Upton doesn't get to have his own reality.

Dr Upton isn't in control of that reality my dear. It's who she is.
You saying "she's doesn't get to" have her reality is about as useful as me telling you that you don't get to have a nose.

@tandora You drag yourself through the mud with the words you use and your callous disregard of women's needs and trauma which you have again done with the post I've quoted even when trying to pretend that were victimising you

I’m just confused as to why this poster is so convinced that DU is female. All evidence shows DU is male, knows he’s male and is just a narcissistic man preying on women he sees as “inferior”. Maybe “reality” is another of the words some posters have a different definition for. They’re coming across as a bit like those Sov Cit weirdos who rely on semantics to try and get out of obeying laws.

Tandora doesn't believe it and Upton doesn't believe it himself.

No one actually believes it.

Some posters could achieve Olympic gold in “point missing”.

I concur.

The denial is off the charts.

That is what I find so reprehensible. If I thought these posters truly believed it, I could almost understand the contempt for women and the callousness towards victims of SA, but when you realise they’re just doing it for shits and giggles, and to try to upset women, it just shows the sheer nastiness behind this movement.

Agree.

It's fascinating really.

I fundamentally disagree with you, bu I can at least accept and understand your perspective is different to mine.

But you are completely incapable of doing the same. In your mind it is logically impossible for someone to have a different perspective / a different experience to you.

That is the extremism.

And schizophrenic men who think they are Jesus are real too, and that is their "reality" so they really are Jesus and should be accommodated as such.

No. Mental illness and delusions are mental illness and delusions.

You can say that again!

I think Upton has a personality disorder rather than a genuine psychological delusion. I absolutely don’t believe he doesn’t know what being biologically female is or that he is male. He’s lying for control, IMO.

If you believed trans identifying men were women, you'd give them the same respect and consideration you show to actual women.