To think that if you commit a male crime, you should do male time, even if you identify as a woman?

[TheAvidAmberPeer]

I know this is a sensitive topic but I’ve been thinking about how justice systems handle trans women who commit serious crimes, especially violent or sexual offences, and whether it’s fair to house them in women’s prisons. To me, if you were born male and commit a crime typically associated with male offenders, particularly one involving violence against women, it seems like common sense that you should serve time in a male facility. Identity doesn’t erase biology or risk in those cases.

AIBU to think fairness and safety, especially for vulnerable female prisoners, should come before ideology?

Yeh to see that you are talking utter crap.
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I doubt that’s what they thought dear, given that the screenshots weren’t of me, except to call out your callousness to Taztoy @Tandora but nice try 👍

Exactly thank you.

The second screen shot was in the context of an extensive conversation with several posters about whether there was language available to request a female doctor. Nothing to do with rape.

I said absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever.

Multiple posters said repeatedly outrageous things to me which I did not rise to.

This is the truth and anyone who wants to can read the thread,

@tandora you won’t and can’t win this argument. Time to give up and move on from it I think. There are many places on the internet where your absurd mantras are unquestioned. This isn’t one of them, because it’s focussed on the life experience of being female. No one is buying it here.

it was a rape survivor who was asking the questions. You knew that. And still mocked her. You minimised women’s distress. You made it very clear you cared about the male than any woman who may be distressed. That’s fine. You do you.

No one said it was about rape. The woman you were replying to so callously was a rape survivor. That’s the relevance.

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yeh.

None of this is remotely true.

Anyways back to the topic.

So!?

Im a rape survivor and a survivor of CSA. Does that mean you are not allowed to be sarcastic with me in a conversation about an entirely different topic. Because if so- you've done a lot worse than that,

@Tandora do you care even now that you were so dismissive to a woman who needed a female only space due to the male violence she had experienced? Even though you think she’s wrong, it’s not exactly painting your ideology in a good light is it?

I’m a survivor of rape and so are many women on this board. I don’t take the piss out of women asking for things that make them more comfortable, no.

I don't think Tandora quite sees a problem with mocking &/or berating women, who are apparently seen as semi sentient support units who can't reliably report their own distress, but it's quite starkly apparent & repellent to the rest of us. Ugh.

So you understand why women may need single sex spaces ams same sex healthcare… you just don’t care? Wow! Surely you’d be supporting women in their fight for single sex spaces as you’d know how important they are to victims of SA and rape. But instead you tell these victims you don’t believe they are distressed by having to share spaces with men. Do you realise how traumatic to victims who may have spent years not being believed? I’m honestly shocked. And disgusted.

Single sex spaces are important to many women, and many women need them because they’ve experienced male violence, some even from “trans women” males. Not really something to inspire callous comments about their language in setting out their boundaries, no?

Indeed.

I just honestly feel so angry and disgusted right now. I’m also a victim of SA and the fact someone would mock and belittle my distress and tell me my trauma is not as bad as that of a male who is made to use the facilities relevant to hos sex makes me feel sick.

Listen - I know this is your tactic - you don't like me challenging your (awful) opinions, so you do everything you can - no matter how manipulative or false- to drag my character through the mud.

I'm not going to play in the mud.
i said absolutely nothing wrong on that thread whatsoever, nor this one . The same cannot be said for others' treatment of me.

You love to play the victim and think that makes you bullet proof to say whatever false, manipulative, crap you want. Well guess what- you're not the only person who's been through these things- they don't confer you with some special status to be an arsehole. I have survived rape, CSA and I don't hate trans people either,

If you would like to go back to the topic then let's. Otherwise have a great day.

I’m sorry, I agree that genderist gaslighting nonsense and the misogyny and callousness is frequently upsetting to me.

What awful opinions have I expressed? That males belong in male facilities and are not women? I hope you have the day you deserve.

You’ve been called out. Own it. You can deny reality all you want but don’t deny your awful insidious behaviour, especially when it’s all laid bare to see.

I think that poster means me, @Namelessnelly

Me too. I’m just so stunned anyone would not only state those opinions but then double down on them. I’m not troll hunting, but I am very doubtful this poster is who they say they are. No one can be that callous and awful?

I’m sorry. I jumped in.

As above.