To think that if you commit a male crime, you should do male time, even if you identify as a woman?

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I know this is a sensitive topic but I’ve been thinking about how justice systems handle trans women who commit serious crimes, especially violent or sexual offences, and whether it’s fair to house them in women’s prisons. To me, if you were born male and commit a crime typically associated with male offenders, particularly one involving violence against women, it seems like common sense that you should serve time in a male facility. Identity doesn’t erase biology or risk in those cases.

AIBU to think fairness and safety, especially for vulnerable female prisoners, should come before ideology?

Transmens penises are cosmetic only. They don't actually work. They can't rape with it. And it takes a while to artificially inflate it.

It's simply not possible for a transwoman to rape with 'it'.

Are you serious?

they don't actually work, They can't rape with it. And it takes a while to artificially inflate it.

😳🤣.

Absolutely loony, nutty- bongo.

It’s because some men are dangerous that all men, however they identify, need to stay out of women’s spaces. It can’t be on a case-by-case basis, it has to be a blanket rule.

Decent blokes understand that, & decent transwomen should understand it as well.

If they came up with the technology for faster inflating ones would you revise your position? 😆

You do realise photos (and tiktok videos) can be edited. Right? That they are not real? In real life then and there in their presence, though, they don't pass.

Mate, you’ve been flying this loony nutty bongo flag for a while now. Come on 😂.

Anyway, back to dangerous trans women. Are you saying they don’t exist? That there are no dangerous trans women?

I mean that was one of the more entertainingly ridiculous trains of logic I've seen presented. Keep penises out of women's prisons- but only the fast inflating ones lol.

You clearly have not done any research on artificial penises. What I am saying is standard common knowledge.

Haha, I wasn't disputing your claims about the current technology.

Yeah, you seem a bit lost now. It happens when you buy into make believe.

Intersex people are male or female.

So you have no point.

Yeah, I don't think that's hate speech. The poster is not generalising about a race or nationality, they're saying things that we know to be true - some trans women are motivated by a sexual fetish, some are dangerous, and women have not consented to them being in women's spaces. These are all factual.

Intersex people agree with JKR, because intersex people know what their sex is, and know that intersex is where their outside genitals don't match their chromosomes. But they are still either male or female. They are not a third sex or in between. And they agree with JKR.

DSD is the correct term for intersex. Intersex people find the term 'intersex' to be offensive because it makes people think they are some 'third' sex. Also JKR has never called anyone Hermaphrodite because as she has said herself, there is no human being ever in history that has ever been a hermaphrodite. Hermaphroditism is only seen in the animal kingdom. So you are confused there, too.

There are some people of all nationalities and ethnicities who are dangerous , or who are motivated in their actions by sexual fetishes.

Is it ok to say this about them , as a group?

"some of those green people are dangerous".

"It is not hatred to fear or feel repulsed by green people."

"Even the green people who aren't a direct danger ... use non-consenting women as props to play out their sexual fantasies".

"A green person can wear a [what] he wants and I'll even call him Nancy, if he insists, but I will never treat him as if he weren't a green person."

"And [that green person] can stay the fuck out of [our] spaces."

Hate speech against green people? Of course not/ nothing to see here!!

Anyway I'm really bored of playing the "nothing is transphobic , because all I the deeply transphobic feelings and beliefs I have are just The Truth" game. So I'm going to leave that there. Everyone can read those words and see what they are.

If you are contemplating making a special exception for any group of men to give them access to women's spaces, then yes, these comments would be important to make

Intersex people find the term 'intersex' to be offensive

people born with variations in sex development are not a monolith , who have one brain , and one opinion, and they have not appointed you spokesperson for them so please sit down.

https://thisisintersex.org/data/organizations/

When it comes to marked single sex spaces, the GRC becomes null and void.

Didn't the judge even state that people are not 'attracted to a certificate'? Someone more in the know please clarify this.

And you clearly don't get it. Our hatred - or rather fear, is of males. MALES. Whether they are 'trans' or not, is beside the point. Them being trans is incidental.

No one would make a 'racist' comparison to segregating males and female changerooms or toilets. We know not all males are dangerous, but we operate on the assumption of worst case scenario and safeguarding. That is why we have separate spaces for males and for females. We are not 'hating' males by doing that. If you are a lawyer I'd be terrified at your lack of basic common sense.

And there is no such thing as a 'trans child'. Most of us would not entertain it or indulge it. Some on this site do have children who identify as trans and they do not entertain or indulge it at all. So I don't know why you think that would make an iota of difference. In fact, there are a few posters who have become GC because of the horrors of seeing their child sucked into such a dangerous thing.

Our hatred - or rather fear, is of males. MALES... but only if they have "working penises" that inflate at speed.

Neither are trans people. Why have you nominated yourself to speak on their behalf? You should really start taking your own advice that you keep dishing out. You sit down!

The ones with inflatable penises aren’t male. How fast they inflate is neither here nor there, soooo I’m not sure why you’re making this point.

Not sure about any of your points at this stage but you keep focussing on this particular part of apparatus (that doesn’t make you a male).

If the law has been clarified why are so many organisations saying they refuse to adhere to it? Some even removing female spaces and making them gender neutral to spite women? Many transwomen saying they'll 'pee where they want' and "no one can stop me"?

Explain that.

No, all males. Because height and strength. But keep making a joke out of such a serious issue.

Trans people are either male or female.

Males are 50% of the population. Far greater than non-white people.

Males are a danger to females.

Exactly. If we are already excluding, for very good reason, "the green people" as Tandora calls them, then pointing out why it may not be a good idea to include a subset of the green people is not hate.