Growing trend for halal meat

[SouthernFashionista]

I’m seeing this and it concerns me. I have noticed that Five Guys is now advertising that all its meat is halal and the restaurant in my workplace serves only halal meat. Who is pushing for this and why do the rest of us have no say? For what it’s worth, I am a Black woman, a practising Catholic with many Muslim friends and acquaintances. I don’t believe they are out there demanding halal meat everywhere they go.

Well of course. I eat meat. Doesn’t mean I wish animals to suffer any more than necessary.

And it is annoying because there have been times recently where we have had to buy halal meat. It’s the cheaper option in supermarkets and some months have been tough. Personally I think it should be banned.

I'm sure the dead animals appreciate your sympathies as you're tucking into their carcass

I think you’re right most people won’t object.

I am increasingly finding I’m “forced” to eat vegetarian when I go out because I won’t eat halal meat. You’re right the idea of any abattoir is horrible, but I really don’t like the idea of animals hanging around bleeding and suffering - there have been some awful articles about bad practices in abattoirs so whilst the best stunning practices might be okay, they are not always followed.

It makes me feel physically sick thinking about it - I know it’s psychological but as soon as I see the word “Halal” I start thinking about animals bleeding to death and then I don’t want to eat any animal products at all.

Vegetarian food in restaurants usually feels like a rip-off (cheaply made and poorly thought out meals which are priced almost same as a meat equivalent).

So increasingly I don’t eat out at all, I cook lovely food at home (farm shop which has its own abattoir you can actually visit).

If forced to eat out have a sandwich before I eat out and then just pick a side salad and a drink and pretend I’m on a diet!!

Some moral code there….

So what you're saying is that because it's going to die anyway we shouldn't really care about how we do it or make it as comfortable as possible given the inevitible?

Look, i see what you're saying, we could just not kill them at all and then none of this would be a problem, but, unfortunately, eating meat is going to continue for some many centuries to come, and while that is happening i'd prefer it if i knew the meat i consumed had met its fate with as little suffering as possible.

Personally, I love the way meat tastes and i'm not going to stop eating it, but, I would certainly be happy to eat less meat and pay much more for it if I could guarantee it was ethically farmed.

Unfortunately, with the way consumerism has gone in the past 50-80 years making sure 100% of meat that makes it to market is of the highest ethical standard is not possible. Historically speaking, meat was eaten maybe once or twice a week, now you can expect it to be eaten with almost every meal, every day.

I’d expect this kind of response from one of my year 5 students

YADNBU. It is also illegal to slaughter animals this way unless they are for consumption by Muslims - which the vast majority of five guys is not.

Watch a YouTube video on non halal abattoirs they are absolutely grim and nothing could convince me that they are slaughtered humanely either.

How does the slaughter of an ethically farmed animal differ? Genuine question

There's no nice way to kill an animal.

There's also plenty of sources to read on slaughtering practices in the UK for halal and non-halal meat that are neutral and factual to keep yourself informed so you can chose whether you feel comfortable with it or not.

If you don't want to eat it, you can chose to try the vegetarian/vegan instead or eat elsewhere.

Who cares.

You can’t humanly kill something that doesn’t want to die….

all slaughter is grim and I am a meat eater, it’s not a nice thing.

Well kids are wising up much younger these days!

There is a large sign on the Wimbledon branch proclaiming that its meat is halal. I can’t imagine that Wimbledon is a special case and, if not already, they will be rolling it out in their other branches.

An awful lot of people do, including the majority of people who have read this thread.

But you are imagining that, that's exactly what you're doing. You're just basing this on nothing but assumptions.

I am a heartless meat eater. A vegetarian colleague asked me, on learning I eat rabbit: 'But don't you think about the little fluffy bunny?' Nope. All meat eating requires putting a distance between yourself and slaughter. However, I understand that some people are provoked by the majority being forced to adopt the habits of the minority.

I think the main thing we can take away from this thread is actually a lot of Mumsnet seen to advocating for veganism which is very interesting!

Prob is that quite a lot of Halal meat isn't stunned.

I’d have said “oh yes I do, makes it all the more tastier tbh”

Let's call a spade a spade they're provoked by the colour of their skin

If you're concerned about animal welfare, I suggest you go vegan, or only eat meat when you are sure that it has come from a supplier with high welfare standards. Halal meat is neither better nor worse than most other meat that will be available in mass catering establishments.

Oh don’t be daft

the veggies amongst us will be drawn like flies to the lights with a thread title like this

Whatever is the world coming to? We'll be fighting off muslamic rayguns next.

What humane treatment do you think they get in abattoirs? People working there get PTSD from the awful sights they see. They are grim af and many throats get slit.