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To think Trump has run out of plots to lose - threatening Portland Oregon with troops.

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 27/09/2025 16:07

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/27/donald-trump-portland-troops-00583380?nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nname=playbook&nrid=87159bb2-52df-4310-86e6-ee8648874c61

Would love to hear from any MNetters across the pond as to the reality of the situation there, is it a "war zone" and how you feel about the situation.

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DuncinToffee · 27/09/2025 16:14

I am not in the US but this guy is a Portland resident

https://bsky.app/profile/jonwalkerpdx.bsky.social/post/3lztar3k2bc2f

As a resident of #Portland it is impossible to capture how unhinged this is. We are a low crime city and the ICE protest "siege" consists of one auxiliary ICE office that normally has at most a dozen weirdos debating what performance art they should use to block a single driveway

showyourquality · 27/09/2025 16:17

He threatened Chicago with this, got significant pushback from the state governor and backed down.
He is using this as a distraction tactic, particularly in relation to releasing the Epstein files, something that the majority of his own supporters would like him to do.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 27/09/2025 16:18

Thanks for that link @DuncinToffee

Most enlightening, especially some of the comments. The resigned humour resonates as well.

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DuncinToffee · 27/09/2025 16:24

The troops sent to DC ended updoing litter picking and leave raking

MistressoftheDarkSide · 27/09/2025 16:31

@DuncinToffee

Well. I suppose that's useful. Honestly pretty much everything I see in the news just provokes this reaction in me now 😳

I have run out of coherent thought.

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EmeraldRoulette · 27/09/2025 22:29

I thought this was about the problems they have in Portland with Antifa

Obviously see well documented on social media, but you don't know what to believe

However, I happen to have a friend in Portland. He's got full on TDS so I never know what to make of what he says. I haven't spoken to him about this.

But my general impression of Portland is it's a bit like London or Birmingham, it very much depends who you speak to about the state of things, whether they're fine or not

But Trump's decision will be related to the incidents of 2020 probably, and also to the more recent activity by Antifa. I was under the impression that never really recovered from 2020 and that my friend is pretty much back peddling after Trump got elected.

My friend pretty much doesn't go out in the evening so he doesn't see that side of things. I don't know how big the area is.

I'm neutral on this by the way - I see some puzzling comments on here about what Trump is doing, but as I say, it's really hard to know what is correct

It's hard enough to know what's really going on in my own country never mind someone else's!

LaurieFairyCake · 27/09/2025 22:51

They now live in a totalitarian and facist state, I’m confused why they’re not all rioting like fuck

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Think it's more that Trump is moving to authoritarian territory and needs a new distraction from the Epstein files.

Greenmouldycheese · 27/09/2025 23:29

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ShesTheAlbatross · 27/09/2025 23:51

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Totalitarian in the way that the military have been sent to a city with authorisation to use “full force” against their own citizens.

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Who are these “100s of people” who are in prison for “speaking the truth”? Can you provide any specific examples?

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:07

Battical · 27/09/2025 23:58

Who are these “100s of people” who are in prison for “speaking the truth”? Can you provide any specific examples?

Google it or watch GB news. YouTube will be able to pull up some news channels for you. I'm not referring to Lucy Connolly either, I actually think what she posted was awful. Though I do think her sentence was way to harsh.

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:13

To think Trump has run out of plots to lose

Not at all, he'll forget about this idea in five minutes and decide to send the National Guard to The Hamptons or somewhere else with a low crime rate. Then he'll threaten to annex Liechtenstein and he'll ask Putin very gently if he might consider not bombing civilians this week. All in the hope that it'll provide a distraction from the fact that everyone knows that Trump is a paedophile who raped little girls

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:15

DuncinToffee · 27/09/2025 16:24

The troops sent to DC ended updoing litter picking and leave raking

Well I suppose that they were sent to "clean up the town". I don't expect that it was supposed to be taken so literally...

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Can we please not refer to humans as ‘illegals’ as a noun? It’s dehumanising in the extreme.

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:20

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There are no "soaring crime rates" in Los Angeles, Washington DC, Chicago or Portland. Mind you, there's a lot of law-breaking going on in the White House led by a notorious nonce who whipped up an insurrection, but the courts are doing their best to rein that in.

ICE goons haven't been deporting any violent criminals. That's too difficult, they pick on soft targets and nab plenty of people who were legally in the US in the process.

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:22

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:07

Google it or watch GB news. YouTube will be able to pull up some news channels for you. I'm not referring to Lucy Connolly either, I actually think what she posted was awful. Though I do think her sentence was way to harsh.

"Google it" is not an acceptable reference if you want anyone to believe you. Given that on another thread you were saying that "Tommy Robinson is not racist" I doubt that we are going to find many facts among your claims anyway.

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:27

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:22

"Google it" is not an acceptable reference if you want anyone to believe you. Given that on another thread you were saying that "Tommy Robinson is not racist" I doubt that we are going to find many facts among your claims anyway.

It's pretty easy to Google or check YouTube for news channels. There's loads of sources readily available. I'm not doing it for you. I won't lose sleep over you being uneducated.

outerspacepotato · 28/09/2025 00:27

Instead of bread and circuses, we get masked thugs disappearing people and the National Guard.

He's really worried about those Epstein files.

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:29

outerspacepotato · 28/09/2025 00:27

Instead of bread and circuses, we get masked thugs disappearing people and the National Guard.

He's really worried about those Epstein files.

Do you see the troops walking around your area? I can't imagine seeing the army walking our streets here.

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:45

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:27

It's pretty easy to Google or check YouTube for news channels. There's loads of sources readily available. I'm not doing it for you. I won't lose sleep over you being uneducated.

Me, "uneducated"? No, I'm educated enough to know that sources need referencing, and that "Google it" or Youtube are not considered reliable sources. You are talking shite (again). You made the claim, you back it up. I'm not going to do your work for you.

Just like you were talking shite about Portland. There aren't mobs of "antifa" holding the city to ransom. There is one bloke in a chicken suit holding a placard outside of the ICE building. Fox 'News' (legally they call themselves an entertainment channel, they are not a serious news outlet) has been using old footage from 2020, often from different cities and with some use of photoshop to pretend that Portland is on fire. It is not. But you're gullible enough to believe the likes of Fox or GBeebies.

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:46

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:29

Do you see the troops walking around your area? I can't imagine seeing the army walking our streets here.

That is because the UK has a democratic (if useless) government, not a tin-pot dictator with a bad fake tan.

Greenmouldycheese · 28/09/2025 00:56

DdraigGoch · 28/09/2025 00:45

Me, "uneducated"? No, I'm educated enough to know that sources need referencing, and that "Google it" or Youtube are not considered reliable sources. You are talking shite (again). You made the claim, you back it up. I'm not going to do your work for you.

Just like you were talking shite about Portland. There aren't mobs of "antifa" holding the city to ransom. There is one bloke in a chicken suit holding a placard outside of the ICE building. Fox 'News' (legally they call themselves an entertainment channel, they are not a serious news outlet) has been using old footage from 2020, often from different cities and with some use of photoshop to pretend that Portland is on fire. It is not. But you're gullible enough to believe the likes of Fox or GBeebies.

Again, you just show how uneducated you are on everything. Sad, lol.

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