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To be shocked to see my (female) friend described as “they” on her work website?

198 replies

CandidMoss · 22/09/2025 20:39

I was looking at a friend’s company website and noticed she’s now listed as “they/them.” It really surprised me, I’ve only ever known her to use “she” and she’s never mentioned anything about changing pronouns.

Not sure if it’s a mistake, a work policy or a personal shift she hasn’t shared. AIBU to feel a bit blindsided? Or is it none of my business?

OP posts:
NameChangedForThis2025 · 23/09/2025 16:03

I'd roll my eyes and probably not give it a lot of further thought.

'They' haven't mentioned it to you, so right now I would assume its not a big deal and doesn't have much bearing on your friendship. If it is a big deal it will probably come up naturally in the course of your conversations at some point.

secureyourbook · 23/09/2025 16:04

If it was a close friend I’d just text them and say “why are you listed as they/them” on your company website 🤷🏼‍♀️

SerendipityJane · 23/09/2025 16:08

Some companies might add pronouns to peoples profiles to keep in with all he cool kids.

5128gap · 23/09/2025 16:14

I have been referred to as they/them when I have not shared my pronouns as requested at the start of a meeting, and they/them-ed in the minutes and in correspondence referring to me. I see it as a little punishment they mete out to people who refuse to comply with the pronoun sharing. Possible this has been done to your friend?

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 16:16

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 12:54

And you say people have answered the question to you before but not in a way you understood?

No, I didn’t say that. The question has not been answered.

Attempts may have been made but nothing that makes any logical sense or has any bearing on reality has been put forward.

DisabledDemon · 23/09/2025 16:17

Justacigarette · 22/09/2025 20:57

i am female but happy to use either she/her or they/them.

happy for they /them to be used as a gender neutral term: not sure why everything needs to be gendered (side eyes the entire French language)

Yes, I always have a problem with this. Why is a table feminine and a garage masculine? Mind you, German is even more complicated!

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 16:20

5128gap · 23/09/2025 16:14

I have been referred to as they/them when I have not shared my pronouns as requested at the start of a meeting, and they/them-ed in the minutes and in correspondence referring to me. I see it as a little punishment they mete out to people who refuse to comply with the pronoun sharing. Possible this has been done to your friend?

Wow that’s so rude! They are pretending they can’t see tell if you are male or female. It’s so ridiculous and only benefits a very small but utterly demanding group of disordered men.

I bet they can’t believe their luck - suddenly everyone running round making themselves look silly and spouting utter nonsense just to appease these men.

5128gap · 23/09/2025 16:24

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 16:20

Wow that’s so rude! They are pretending they can’t see tell if you are male or female. It’s so ridiculous and only benefits a very small but utterly demanding group of disordered men.

I bet they can’t believe their luck - suddenly everyone running round making themselves look silly and spouting utter nonsense just to appease these men.

They would argue they are defaulting to the polite form of address for those who's 'gender is unknown' because they believe gender and sex are different and that you can't assume gender from appearance. They can go at it. I know my correct pronouns, they know them too, and we both know we know.

BundleBoogie · 23/09/2025 17:17

5128gap · 23/09/2025 16:24

They would argue they are defaulting to the polite form of address for those who's 'gender is unknown' because they believe gender and sex are different and that you can't assume gender from appearance. They can go at it. I know my correct pronouns, they know them too, and we both know we know.

Yes. It’s like some people are determined to make themselves more stupid as time goes on.

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 17:21

5128gap · 23/09/2025 16:14

I have been referred to as they/them when I have not shared my pronouns as requested at the start of a meeting, and they/them-ed in the minutes and in correspondence referring to me. I see it as a little punishment they mete out to people who refuse to comply with the pronoun sharing. Possible this has been done to your friend?

What's the issue with sharing your pronouns? Or are you non binary?

5128gap · 23/09/2025 18:06

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 17:21

What's the issue with sharing your pronouns? Or are you non binary?

I consider it entirely unnecessary. I am very obviously a woman and until recently that was sufficient for people to use she/her when referring to me. Nothing has changed for me and my life that requires me to suddenly need to tell them they must continue to do this.
If my not announcing my pronouns causes other people to not know what to call me, that isn't my problem or indeed my concern. They may choose.
I am not offended either way. Just mildly amused when they choose they/them to make a point. And it is to make a point. Because it would be vanishingly rare for a person who preferred they/them not to announce it. So its a fairly safe bet I'm she/her.

LarkspurLane · 23/09/2025 18:13

OriginalUsername2 · 22/09/2025 23:42

My genuine reaction would be “Whaat?! Since when is Sandra a they/them?!”

Yeah, me too!
Depending on who they were, it could explain a lot or totally bemuse me!

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 18:19

5128gap · 23/09/2025 18:06

I consider it entirely unnecessary. I am very obviously a woman and until recently that was sufficient for people to use she/her when referring to me. Nothing has changed for me and my life that requires me to suddenly need to tell them they must continue to do this.
If my not announcing my pronouns causes other people to not know what to call me, that isn't my problem or indeed my concern. They may choose.
I am not offended either way. Just mildly amused when they choose they/them to make a point. And it is to make a point. Because it would be vanishingly rare for a person who preferred they/them not to announce it. So its a fairly safe bet I'm she/her.

I guess another example of how different everyone is as I couldn't get worked up over being asked to confirm how I wish my pronouns to show. It's a modern problem for businesses, they are just trying to keep everyone happy- but by doing so seem to have created a new upset for some.

Bobafett2020 · 23/09/2025 18:33

dreamornot · 22/09/2025 20:55

Why are you even searching for your friends and reading their work profiles, that’s odd behaviour.

I would hazard a guess that this entire scenario is made up to stir up anger against people who don’t use traditional pronouns.

This

5128gap · 23/09/2025 18:34

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 18:19

I guess another example of how different everyone is as I couldn't get worked up over being asked to confirm how I wish my pronouns to show. It's a modern problem for businesses, they are just trying to keep everyone happy- but by doing so seem to have created a new upset for some.

I'm not worked up about it. I find it a little ridiculous that a meeting cant start before 30 men and women have gone round the room confirming that (shock!) the men prefer he/him and the women prefer she/her. However, no one has added pronouns to my email signature.
I admit I wouldn't be happy if they did as it would be very presumptuous to state on my behalf I have a 'preferred pronoun' when I don't.
I'm not sure it's a 'modern problem' tbh. I think its an outdated one now. I have noticed very few people choose to add them to their emails these days compared with 5 years or so ago. Interestingly none of the young entry level staff in my work have them.

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 18:36

5128gap · 23/09/2025 18:34

I'm not worked up about it. I find it a little ridiculous that a meeting cant start before 30 men and women have gone round the room confirming that (shock!) the men prefer he/him and the women prefer she/her. However, no one has added pronouns to my email signature.
I admit I wouldn't be happy if they did as it would be very presumptuous to state on my behalf I have a 'preferred pronoun' when I don't.
I'm not sure it's a 'modern problem' tbh. I think its an outdated one now. I have noticed very few people choose to add them to their emails these days compared with 5 years or so ago. Interestingly none of the young entry level staff in my work have them.

You don't have a preferred pronoun?

JHound · 23/09/2025 18:38

None of your business.

MyAmusedOpalCrab · 23/09/2025 18:41

Bobafett2020 · 23/09/2025 18:33

This

OP literally explained this yday. Multiple people have also mentioned that OP has said this. Do people here bother reading comments? But yet they “this” “this” like it’s doing something.

MissPoor · 23/09/2025 18:42

MyAmusedOpalCrab · 23/09/2025 18:41

OP literally explained this yday. Multiple people have also mentioned that OP has said this. Do people here bother reading comments? But yet they “this” “this” like it’s doing something.

Edited

This 😆

Also reminds me of the ubiquitous ‘first post nails it’ with added eyeroll points for ‘as always’ when the first poster is actually being a dick ‘as always.’

ainsleysanob · 23/09/2025 18:43

Have you signed up to the batshit gender bollocks that’s currently in fashion with the hard of thinking? If not, then continue to call her ‘she/her’, because that’s what she is. Does she usually conform to ridiculous fads? If so, there’s your answer as to why.

Ddakji · 23/09/2025 18:45

BundleBoogie · 22/09/2025 21:03

How does your friend ‘use’ pronouns?

Surely they are just words that other people use when speaking about her when she’s not there?

Why have you just used “she” when the OP said this person uses “they”?

See? It’s not that easy to just ignore the rules of language and definitions that you’ve known your entire life.

Ddakji · 23/09/2025 18:47

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 18:36

You don't have a preferred pronoun?

No one does. Pronouns are part of language which belongs to everyone. They do not belong to individuals to pick and choose and change the meaning of if they fancy it.

Ddakji · 23/09/2025 18:48

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 17:21

What's the issue with sharing your pronouns? Or are you non binary?

No such thing as “your” pronouns. Pronouns don’t belong to anyone.

Anchorage56 · 23/09/2025 18:49

ainsleysanob · 23/09/2025 18:43

Have you signed up to the batshit gender bollocks that’s currently in fashion with the hard of thinking? If not, then continue to call her ‘she/her’, because that’s what she is. Does she usually conform to ridiculous fads? If so, there’s your answer as to why.

At least you refer to it as a ridiculous fad which is better than the - it's a conspiracy against women to ultimately allow men to pop on a bit of lippy and use the ladies loos!

JHound · 23/09/2025 18:50

Ddakji · 23/09/2025 18:45

Why have you just used “she” when the OP said this person uses “they”?

See? It’s not that easy to just ignore the rules of language and definitions that you’ve known your entire life.

I thought OP said her work profile states “they” but she has never known her friend to use they / them.