To think Christianity is becoming the biggest religious threat?

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With all that is going on in the world I am seeing Christianity becoming more of a problem.

it shocked me to see British people chanting “Christ is king” at the TR rally last week. That’s not really our culture.

then you have the Charlie Kirk/US issues- I am seeing so many people quoting the bible now, using it to justify their reasoning rather than actual facts and statistics.

”the bible tells us” or “the bible says” . The talk of “god-given” rights. Especially in the US where the pledge of allegiance and the constitution seem to be inextricably mixed up with a Christian god.

I am catholic. But I also believe the bible was written by men, not god, it is fallible. It is more of a collection of stories to convey a good way of living, a code of ethics if you will. But it is also extremely dated and of it’s time, and most of it isn’t applicable to modern life. To me religion is more about a community, a group of people with common ground than god is great we’ll all go to heaven stuff. But I’m probably catholicking wrong 😂. I also believe that most belief systems are pretty similar, and Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc are all probably praying to the same deity. Just slightly different rules.

separation of church and state. But increasingly Christianity is being dragged into politics as some sort of justification as to why that side is right. They have god on their side narratives

so am I right in thinking this increasing use of Christianity could end up more of a threat than any other religion?

No, Christian nationalism is on the rise as a reaction against the spread of Islamism.

TR and his rabble are just one symptom of that, they aren’t the cause.

The threat against Muslims is growing.

Get back to us when Christians in Europe start decapitating their Muslim teachers.

It's not a threat you just don't like it there's a difference. Are you christophobic ? Radical Islam is the biggest threat re terrorism. There is also a difference between Christianity and nationalism then I agree it can get a bit weird.

I never said we shouldn't defend ourselves against threats and violence. And we certainly should call the police when needed.

I was talking about acts of violence and hateful language against asylum seekers. Not self-defence when under attack ourselves.

Speaking up for ourselves is fine, too. Jesus and the apostles certainly did that. They did however show love towards their enemies, by praying for their persecutors, e.g. Stephen praying for those throwing stones at him.

And yes, this is the example that we’re called to follow.

Shall we start calling all Christians murderers because Tyler Robinson was Christian?

Wind your neck in, your agenda is obvious.

It doesn’t mean making the country hell for non-believers.

What on earth has that got to do with anything I said?

Did Tyler Robinson kill in the name of Christianity?

I don’t know.

But Anders Breivik did.

Have you not learnt yet that you can’t judge entire groups of people by a few nutjobs?

Why did you mention him then if you don’t know?

Because he was a Christian?

I think all religions cause a lot of problems, Christianity no less or more than any other.

So what? Charlie Kirk was a Christian too. How would that work, Tyler Robinson killing him in the name of Christianity?

That’s what Brevik did, killed Christians in the name of Christianity.

So what if one nut job kills, does that mean you bad name the entire group?

Shall we start calling all Christians murderers because Tyler Robinson was Christian?
Wind your neck in, your agenda is obvious.

I suggest you wind your neck in given who is responsible for just about every single terrorist attack in the UK and Europe in the last twenty years, plus various stabbings of children, beheadings of priests etc.

If only that were true.

The MP Jo Cox was murdered by a rightwing extremist.

In 2019 a neo-Nazi group planned to assassinate Rosie Cooper MP but thankfully were caught before rather than after.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-44798649

And we are literally sitting here today while police are giving evidence to the Southport inquiry that the Southport killer was not Muslim and had had been viewing anti-Islamic material.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33rpyvvnn8o

The terrorism here was people exploiting the murder of children to incite massive violence. Rioters attacked the same town that had already suffered the killings, and elsewhere set fire to buildings full of people. It's a mercy no one else was killed.

Incited by liars pretending the killer was Muslim or an immigrant (he was neither).

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-uk-riots-edl-twitter-b2591161.html

That's just off the top of my head, just in the UK, and just in the last decade.

There have been horrific terrorist attacks by Islamist extremists. And you can talk about Islamist terrorist attacks perfectly honestly... without then pretending that this is the only violence we're having to deal with.

Neo-Nazis have murdered people. Violent rightwing extremists have set buildings full of people on fire. The same political figures egging them on are now hitching themselves to the wagon of Christian Nationalism and giving speeches that "violence is coming."

It's not an either or. We're not going to get rid of violent extremist Islamists by embracing violent extremist neo-Nazis or so-called Christian Nationalists.

They're more shit on a pile of shit we're having to deal with.

If only that were true.

It is true. You've listed a few incidents, but have a look at this wiki link, terrorist attacks in the last few decades:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe

The only reason there weren't mass deaths is these planned attacks on synagogues and mosques were intercepted.

2025
Three Nazi extremists convicted of planning terrorist attack in England
Self-styled Nazi cell had amassed 200 weapons and discussed attacks on mosques and synagogues
^https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/may/14/three-nazi-extremists-convicted-of-planning-terrorist-attack-in-england^

Different case in 2025:
Teenager who planned mosque attack in Scotland detained for 10 years
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/21/teenager-who-planned-mosque-attack-scotland-detained

If you want to say something that's true, say something that's true.

Not "just about every single terrorist attack in the UK and Europe in the last twenty years".

Because that's not true.

If you want to say something that's true, say something that's true.
Not "just about every single terrorist attack in the UK and Europe in the last twenty years".
Because that's not true.

Indeed - that's why I qualified it with "just about".

Anders Breivik was in 2011, over 14 years ago.
According to his manifesto he targeted the Norwegian Labour Party because he thought they were promoting multiculturalism and immigration policies that in his view threatened Western civilisation.
If it turns out that Tyler Robinson targeted Charlie Kirk because he thought the latter was a threat to Christianity, then you’ll be able to say that he killed him in the name of Christianity.
At the moment it really doesn’t seem to be the case though.

If you want to know more about the great heap of shit, Russia is now commissioning terrorist attacks using apparently unconnected third parties.

There's a small but growing industry of targeting disaffected people and petty criminals to carry out attacks,

That's getting a bit off the topic of Christian Nationalism – except that this is yet another thing for which Christian Nationalist violence will not be a "cure."

But I'm absolutely sure those who exploited the murder of children in Southport to raise mobs for their own agendas will do exactly the same with Russia-commissioned violence.

So that's another on the list of things to keep an eye out for.

The biggest increase in Christianity is in sub saharan Africa. Its declining in Europe.
Islam is increasing faster than Christianity worldwide.

That’s funny, because last year they were being accused of ‘disproportionately investigating Muslims’ and being accused of racism.
This is after they admitted that the didn’t hold ethnicity data on two thirds of their referrals…

Wonder if there’s a correlation….