To think Christianity is becoming the biggest religious threat?

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With all that is going on in the world I am seeing Christianity becoming more of a problem.

it shocked me to see British people chanting “Christ is king” at the TR rally last week. That’s not really our culture.

then you have the Charlie Kirk/US issues- I am seeing so many people quoting the bible now, using it to justify their reasoning rather than actual facts and statistics.

”the bible tells us” or “the bible says” . The talk of “god-given” rights. Especially in the US where the pledge of allegiance and the constitution seem to be inextricably mixed up with a Christian god.

I am catholic. But I also believe the bible was written by men, not god, it is fallible. It is more of a collection of stories to convey a good way of living, a code of ethics if you will. But it is also extremely dated and of it’s time, and most of it isn’t applicable to modern life. To me religion is more about a community, a group of people with common ground than god is great we’ll all go to heaven stuff. But I’m probably catholicking wrong 😂. I also believe that most belief systems are pretty similar, and Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc are all probably praying to the same deity. Just slightly different rules.

separation of church and state. But increasingly Christianity is being dragged into politics as some sort of justification as to why that side is right. They have god on their side narratives

so am I right in thinking this increasing use of Christianity could end up more of a threat than any other religion?

Religious fanaticism is the threat regardless of what deity you believe in.

it shocked me to see British people chanting “Christ is king” at the TR rally last week.

I can guarantee you that 99% of them have never set foot inside a church, and wouldn't know what Christianity is if it got up and slapped them in the face.

I'm finding the skinheads waving crosses really fucking bizarre and worrying, yes. Any kind of religious fundamentalism worries me. And they're certainly not loving their neighbours, are they 🙄

However, I can't really see it taking off in this country. We're culturally far too sceptical and a bit too given to mocking figures of authority to allow fundamentalism to take hold. There's a reason our variety of Christianity is associated with sleepy villages, cups of tea, jam and Jerusalem etc - anything too fire and brimstoney would quite frankly be a bit embarrassing.

This is barking mad, but socially acceptable to say. Look at 9/11, 7/7, London Bridge, the Taliban, the Iranian regime and tell me Christianity is a bigger threat! Add in indoctrination in madrassas,, the attitudes to homosexuality, but if I’d used your title to write this post about islam it would be blocked in seconds. No Christianity may have some unsavoury elements but it’s not the biggest threat on any level.

I am not sure how an awareness of being a sinner makes someone feel morally superior - surely the opposite?

This is a reaction to the Left promoting every culture apart from British culture, which they see as uniquely oppressive and pernicious due to its roots in the “evil” British Empire.

Many people are fed up of this, and the demonisation of their heritage, so we’re seeing a resurgence in Christianity as a result.

I lost my faith a number of years ago, but even though I don’t believe literally in many of its beliefs and tenets, I still have an appreciation of it culturally, and see the value of the church and have felt comfort and peace from the couple of services I have attended over the past year.

Moreover, I recognise that the values on which our society is built and has thrived are Christian (before the Left tried to blur these values with soup of multi-culturalism which attempts to force us to accept that hardline, misogynistic Islamist values are as valid as core British values).

I’m not a sinner - majority of the population aren’t either.

I mean, you might be Catholic by family or culture but your beliefs are not Catholic so you "being Catholic" is somewhat irrelevant.

I am a practicing Christian. As in, I go to Church every Sunday, I pray and read the Bible, I study the Bible and try to learn more about it's history and the culture and context it was written in. I wholeheartedly believe what it says and try and apply it to my every day life.

I find much of American Christianity terrifying. It's unrecognisable to my Anglican ways. It seems as if the church and the Bible are used as some sort of cultural currency and you can win favour by being seen in the right church or reciting the correct Bible verse. The church itself is a consumerist temple with mega churches with disembodied faces on a screen telling you how to live and mega watt stage shows dressed up as "worship to God". There's a deep misunderstanding that because you believe in Jesus and you believe in [Insert political belief here] then God must be on your side which just isn't true.

I see a small creep into British circles with big churches with slick welcome teams and flashy lights but I think the upcoming generation are generally looking for something softer with more genuine connections. I hope they're more discerning than my generation and can see the true heart of the God we believe in through all haze and noise of extremists and political opinions.

We don't have separation of church and state in the UK. The King is head of the Church of England and we have bishops sitting in the House of Lords.

The US technically does have separation of church and state but has far more of a problem with religious fanaticism influencing politics. They have a strong evangelical right wing which we don't really have here.

If that is growing in the UK then it needs keeping an eye on but I think islamism (aka political islam) is still the biggest religious threat.

Exactly, make a cartoon mocking Jesus, or burn the Bible, and see what happens…. Some Christians will be upset but nothing more.

Make a cartoon mocking Mohammed, or burn the Koran, and you will probably be killed.

I think those at the march wanted to show we are a Christian country but did it in the most bizarre way because I imagine most have not set foot in church since childhood.

Yeah I don’t see it happening here, Christianity here is nothing like in america or africa even. Good luck trying to ban abortion here.

I believe that all religions are capable of causing problems when they are adopted by the wrong people or when people who are just not good are already part of them.

I devised and practice my own ‘religion’ with my family as found that my beliefs and values didn’t align with any current religion and I still felt I needed that guidance and routine in our lives .

@Pigeonpoodle

This is a reaction to the Left promoting every culture apart from British culture, which they see as uniquely oppressive and pernicious

I'm not sure exactly where this is all coming from but there have certainly been some interesting threads on MN recently sniping away at Britain/Britishness.

YABVU to ignore the actual threats such as the Muslim Brotherhood, who do actually have a plan to take over and impose Islam, and are quietly gaining ground enabled by our weak government despite being banned in Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc for being too extreme (Egypt banished many of their MB members to Gaza).

It is an extraordinary and disingenuous leap to instead focus on Christianity which, while it used to be absolutely brutal, has not been a mainstream threat for a few hundred years (although there have been some pockets like KKK).

I don't really enjoy seeing the crosses as it's not my religion but at the end of the day the UK has always been a Christian-based country, with religious freedom for other religions, although that is rapidly changing.

It is obvious that the crosses (and flags) are coming out mainly in reaction to Islamism, not race, however much people try to pretend its about race.

And Christianity is a very persecuted religion ....look at how many Christians have been driven out of the Middle East and are being slaughtered in parts of Africa.

Yes your right but that was more political than religious, though that was used as an excuse. And mainly against the British/ English.

Yes, it did seem jarring… It’s a cultural reaction more than a religious one.

However, I was gob-smacked when I saw stats the other day that showed that church attendance amongst young men (18-25) quadrupled between 2018 and 2024. It’s cool to be a Christian these days it seems - church attendance amongst this demographic was far higher than 50 year olds for instance.

I’ve been in the inside of evangelical Christianity and there is some scary stuff in there. There is a particular strand of Christianity that does trouble me. The prosperity gospel/spiritual warfare lot are capable of a lot of harm.

Some people believe in a higher power and an afterlife because it gives them hope. Maybe they’ve lost a loved one like a child who they would hope to see again. Or maybe their life here on earth is full of pain and misery so their hope lies in a future where they’re not suffering anymore. I think in England we are privileged - death is further away from us than ever, people used to have 10 children and half of them die. People used to drop dead in the streets. Now with modern medicine we can be living into our 80s and 90s and be quite fit and well. I see it all the time as a nurse. I’ve got to 30 and only had one death in my family. So there’s not much thought about death. We are living for the present and the present can be quite pleasant- we have food, shelter, often lots of entertainment at our fingertips. We saw a rise in Christianity during Covid when people were dying more frequently and I think that’s the correlation. The only difference between an atheist and a Christian is the hope of an afterlife as opposed to believing death is the end. Also Christians believe this because they believe Jesus is a historically real person who really did raise from the dead and they believe there is enough historical evidence to prove this actually happened (the disciples sudden change of character after they saw the risen Jesus all leading them to become martyrs). Don’t let bad christians put you off Christianity - there’ll be rapists, sex offenders and racisits in all areas of life religious or not. The bible doesn’t teach those values, only people who don’t understand it properly can get the wrong ideas from stories.

I don’t think we’ll ban abortion here, but surveys indicate that people are a lot less supportive of abortion that the Left would like to believe.

Yep, I've said it before. It only ever seems to be Christianity that is freely open for condemnation or mockery. Weird.

This trend is largely political too. It’s a stand against the rise of Islam and the nihilism of the atheist ruling class who have brought our country low.

In the early church Christianity was called the church of women - 2/3 of Christian’s were women. I think it appeals to the oppressed sex and in modern times young men are feeling a bit lost, so it attracts them. If you are a person who is looked down on my society then Christianity is an appealing religion as it teaches that God values and sees the “nobodies” in society.

Agree with this. Titling Christianity the biggest religious threat is truly bizarre.