To find it shocking how brazen people are with their hatred of refugees?

[GreenFairy93]

Another day, another Facebook post calling for the army to be bought in to stop the boats. Another comment section full of people shouting "sink the boats!" "Use as much force as necessary to stop them!"

There are women and children on these boats and people are brazenly calling for force to be used against them and for them to be sunk, with pictures of their faces next to their comments. Not an ounce of shame. And there's hundreds of them.

I just find it absolutely abhorrent and honestly, really upsetting that so many people have dehumanised asylum seekers to the point they have absolutely no compassion in their hearts to the point they are publicly calling for harm to come to families fleeing war.

AIBU to be shocked that people think this is ok now?

Have you written to your MP to voice your protest about about the increasing legal immigration?

Why not complain to the people n power instead of supporting people who target and persecute anyone black or brown or different?

Do you realise that refugees are a small part of the total immigrants each year?

Incidentally, the tax gap (how much tax is lost in evasion, fraud and avoidance) in the UK is estimated at £46 billion annually.

Look up the food chain, not down.

Read what you just wrote. It is SO hateful. Do you really feel like this? Are black people only ok if they're footballers? What about Muslim people? Are they acceptable? I cannot believe you think this. It's disgusting. And these "British Values" people are so proud of. What are they? Because they aren't kindness or tolerance are they?

THIS WITH BELLS ON! There’s a load of cookies there!

The whole Muslim cancer thing didn't suggest tolerance to me.

Exactly. It’s a vicious cycle the more migrants that are funded here, the less aid goes abroad to help migrants so the more migrants will travel further. There was 304 million migrants last year, globally the world is not coping and is returning them. Afghani woman and children being returned from Iran, Egypt sending back Sudanese into a war zone because aid budgets.

There aren’t any good solutions here because math. I think we make a decision on how many and who can come in and stick to it. Anyone who turns up gets sent back. Neighbouring countries get supported via UN for their refugee programs. It isn’t perfect but the world is in a pretty poor state. Climate change and war will fuel further migration, so it isn’t going to get any better.

I have not seen any women and children in the footage....

Yawn.

I wonder if @Papyrophile is protesting about the indiscriminate breeding of people born here when we don't know who they are or what they bring? There's an assumption there that British born people all turn out to be outstanding citizens and net contributers to society. You know, like Tommy Robinson.

Do you honestly not know anything about British culture and traditions or are you just trying to be goady?

The figures come from Government. Net migration has been over 2 million since 2021… with over 900,000 in 2023 alone… that’s “net” migration.

Yes, exactly, it wasn't me that asked it.

You really need to develop your cross referencing skills and also stop rubbing it in as to how comfortable you are, insulated by wealth!

It’s so pathetic. We come to the world with nothing and leave with nothing. You can’t live in a rich and peaceful country when the rest of the world is starving, no matter how high your walls are and how big your greed is.

Disgusting, hateful… etc, etc. Have you considered listening to people’s concerns? Given there’s so many people voicing them, perhaps they have a point?

Where is your kindness and tolerance for those who don’t want endless mass immigration? Only works in one direction, seemingly.

Yes, it's truly depressing.

Where did I say I was insulated by wealth?

That’s right, I didn’t.

I posted your hugely contradictory posts above but I can do so again.

Here it is

Terribly sorry @JaneEyre40 , I don't read the Mail, and there were no numbers in that post. Times, Telegraph, FT, Guardian (rarely) and NYTimes are my main reads. I value the individuals who bring their skills to the UK to earn good wages and improve their professional competence. The MSc Pakistani nurse in the ITU who looked after my DH at Christmas, who came to work and learn (and improve her English) is a gem. I know and like a great many people, from every ethnicity and background. I don't think I suggested anything at all about families or reproduction.

I gave some reasons why some might be in favour of mass immigration, and reasons why others might be against. I didn’t mention my own circumstances, which are in any case irrelevant to the points made. I don’t know why you’re insisting on trying to make this personal.

Or maybe I’m neither? Or maybe I can see both sides of the argument? Not something you’re used to doing, I can see.

That’s true… There are white British people that don’t subscribe to them but, historically, those British values are nonetheless the bedrock that has allowed our society to flourish.

We may have had differing politics and disagreed strongly on issues but, apart from some on the fringes, our national political and societal life has been marked by its strong democracy (we have respected results if we despised who won!), respect for the rule of English/Scottish law (yes, societies will always have some criminals), women’s rights (it may not be perfect but it’s worlds better than women’s rights is most Islamic countries), and tolerance (try burning a bible then try burn a Koran - see who tries to kill you!).

The Islamic cultures that exist in our cities fundamentally differ (in a way that other cultures don’t). That’s just the uncomfortable truth.

My views aren’t directed at individual Muslims, who will have a variety of views, and many of whom won’t be part of those cultures - but rather they’re directed towards those Islamist cultures that now permeate in many urban centres in the UK.

Thanks @Pigeonpoodle . Brilliant snapshot of why Britain is fair and level minded.

Well, at least two, that are known about. And the over 200 asylum hotel residents charged with crimes this year to August. Of these, 109 were violent offences and 44 were sexual offences, including four counts of alleged rape. There were also 63 theft-related offences. Those are just the ones who are caught and charged. We have enough criminals, we don't need to import more.

Wtf!? Refugees aren't definitely criminals!!