To find it shocking how brazen people are with their hatred of refugees?

[GreenFairy93]

Another day, another Facebook post calling for the army to be bought in to stop the boats. Another comment section full of people shouting "sink the boats!" "Use as much force as necessary to stop them!"

There are women and children on these boats and people are brazenly calling for force to be used against them and for them to be sunk, with pictures of their faces next to their comments. Not an ounce of shame. And there's hundreds of them.

I just find it absolutely abhorrent and honestly, really upsetting that so many people have dehumanised asylum seekers to the point they have absolutely no compassion in their hearts to the point they are publicly calling for harm to come to families fleeing war.

AIBU to be shocked that people think this is ok now?

That's what the whole bloody thread is about!!! People openly commenting on Facebook posts that the armed forces should be sent out to sink the boats and use whatever force necessary to make sure they don't get to England!!!!

Keep up!!!

Do you honestly think a British government would follow such a policy.

Not the current government, no. That wasn’t your question to me, though.

That £46bn is not all down to evasion; the tax gap includes all taxes that should theoretically be paid. The gap includes companies going bust (plenty of those in the current climate!), genuine errors, adhering to the letter of the law but not the “spirit”.

HMRC estimates that evasion accounts for about 15% of the tax gap; just slightly more than we spend on housing and supporting immigrants arriving on small boats. If you are aghast at the amount lost to evasion, you should be equally aghast at the amount spent on small boat arrivals.

Right. For all the wide eyed people claiming no one wants to actually sink the boats/drown the refugees/ people are just fed up and have a right to be; here are screen shots of the disgusting posts literally wishing to sink and drown refugees.

My whole AIBU was AIBU to find it upsetting that refugees have been dehumanised to the point where people think this behaviour is acceptable and are happy to say these things in public with their names and pictures attached to it!?

Obviously not. But that's not the question.

The question is AIBU to be shocked that people have dehumanised refugees to the point where this behaviour is acceptable in public spaces now. Because honestly, I'm fucking shocked.

2022/23 figures included women and children fleeing the war in Ukraine. Funny how the men didn't come…

🤣 Goodness I don’t know why you’re so upset. People say all sorts of things on social media from the safety of their sofa.

Stop being so naive OP there are no women and children on these boats.

There’s this new magic way to make your illegal entry suddenly legal; “asylum”!

It was 48% in the year ending June 25.

They'll go somewhere where they feel that the can keep more of their money. I do they personally do. I just gave you an example.

Please untwist your granny knickers.

OP in the majority, these are young men of fighting age. You are paying to keep them in 4* accommodation, giving them a phone, good, pocket money, your gp’s appointment, etc etc. how long do you honestly think we can sustain paying millions every day with no return? Wake up before it’s too late.

It isn’t 4 star accommodation, the amenities and appliances are usually removed. It’s a room with beds in it.

The Home Office doesn’t issue phones as standard. If phones are issued, it’s usually from a charity (which we don’t pay for).

£9 per week isn’t good pocket money. You couldn’t live off it, and neither could I.

It’s not “my” GP appointment. It’s “a” GP appointment.

I don’t know why people continue to pedal these absolute myths.

And you obviously verified that every single one of those comments was made by a genuine English racist and not one of the Russian bots which we’re frequently told are being deployed all over social media to stir up tensions?

Goodness, you don’t find it upsetting that some people think it’s acceptable to suggest snipers should be used against refugees?

They are not saying these things anonymously, either.
After the Lucy Connelly case, you’d think they’d be more careful even if just because of self-preservation.

None too bright, obviously.

Exactly! It's incredulous that people still peddle this crap

Explains why immigration is falling.

That’s an interesting idea and concept. But it would still cost billions to implement. I’m sure there are lots of ideas out there on how to make our NHS more efficient. But it would require infinite funds, with no guarantees that it would improve our services. It’s very badly managed with no coercion between services, so the result is that nothing is joined up, and as the saying goes - the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. The NHS needs strong leadership with someone willing to think outside the box instead of ‘let’s save our NHS at any cost’.

Well if you consider international law to be magic.

There are British people living in appalling conditions in damp and mold infested homes and paying a fortune for the privilege. They don’t have hot meals provided for them, their mobile phone aren’t paid for by charities, they don’t get ‘pocket money’ and they can’t get a doctor’s appointment.

Those people have the absolute right as citizens of this country to be considered the first priority. We’ve reached a point when asylum seekers and refugees are prioritised over the existing population. It’s fundamentally unfair and cannot continue.

But making inappropriate and wild statements on SM isn’t anything new. You can go on face book, X and other media platforms every day and see absolutely vile comments about many different subjects. The important thing is not to try to lump together people who might have a shared sentiment about anti immigration, but many of whom will not share the same ideas or views on how to resolve it. For example, my idea would be to get the army deployed on the French coast where the departure points are, and stop the boats coming in the first place. I would absolutely not condone attacks on boats or people to stop them landing. Nor I suspect would the majority of people.

"granny knickers"? I'm not a granny so that would be hard but even if I was, are you sure your earn enough to pay top tax as that comment has unmasked you.

Those on the left ostensibly believe protecting the most vulnerable in society first. Housing asylum seekers and refugees in hotels while not giving the same level of protection and security to British citizens is directly counter to that. Labour cut benefits because there isn’t enough money for vulnerable citizens and yet they find money for housing migrants.

British working people cannot compete. Serco are offering an unprecedented 5 years of guaranteed rent with council tax, bills and even maintenance included. Many landlords will now be considering evicting tenants to take up this deal instead.

You could argue that these people are vulnerable as well - but they are not our responsibility. We can’t look after the millions of people around the world who want a better life.

"I do they personally do", chatting shit!