Which country will you move to if Reform win next election?

[Krenonges]

Faced with the prospect of NHS being sold off, ICE-style immigration raids and deportations, emboldened bigots, changes to the school curriculum, public services dessimated, leaving EHCR, I honestly think I'll have no choice but to leave. I don't want to but I couldn't bring DC up in fascist state.

Luckily my DH, DC and I are all dual nationals of an EU country so we have an escape route if needed and this country goes to the dogs.

Where would you go?

I think they have had enough of us. Our young people have not behaved well when they do go on holiday to Spain.

Oh for goodness sake. Just. Leave.it.
My husband is a migrant from that area.
My son teaches English to refugees.
I am well aware of all the problems.
Thank you.

Why are you so defensive? What a typical thing to come out with. Yet the UK is blameless?
You can scroll on you don't have to respond.

You’re completely wrong.

But if you wish to invent a viewpoint to argue against have at it.

What is a third world country?

Why would you expect a separate referendum on every government decision under a parliamentary democracy?

Yep I think the same too - it will turn out I reckon that none of these other insurers will pay the ‘sweetners’ - remember the Tory’s ( think it was Johnson but not sure) and his ‘no suggestion we would leave a customs union - they need us more than we need them ‘ nope, they didn’t -

A reminder of what you wrote:

I walk around my local town centre now and it's awash with theft, drug addiction and money laundering. It doesn't take a genius to find the common denominator, they all originate from the same geographical location.

Yes, the comment was specific to the people I had seen in my town centre, not those of another race or ethnicity has a whole.

HTH..

Who will have the funds needed to move to another country? And why is this in AIBU???

I did not mention ethnicity or race.

This is what I said which quotes you directly:

”All theft, drug addiction and money laundering in your area comes from one geographical location?
All of it?
And you know this how?”

chocolatemademefat · Today 15:09
Who will have the funds needed to move to another country? And why is this in AIBU??

I’ve wondered this. Also, the amount of organisation and admin that would be needed to move to another country. Finding somewhere to live, organising schools, bring a car from UK or buying one in the new place, finding a doctor, finding an upholsterer or decorator if necessary, learning how taxes work, setting up a bank account (not sure if that is necessary now so much is done with cards).
Meeting people and making friends for both the parents and children……
That’s just a few - I’m sure there are many more things that need doing.

Lots of people have the funds. I do. And I have moved to other countries in the past, with kids.
Though as I said I am not moving now.

Your 'direct' quotation is wrong and inaccurate again.

It doesn't state 'all'

Try harder lefty.

You need to stop being personal.
Stop it, I've asked several times.

I wish you well in your lovely peaceful country which I’m sure is much better than here

It always puzzles me that so many people want to get here, clearly they need to read this thread and educate themselves of the horrors that await them

You are taking it personal I am talking about the issues this country is facing and why. You took my first post very personal that's why you keep on coming back. You dont want to talk about the issues. I won't take it personal it doesn't affect you does it.

What is a third world country?

It’s quite an old term that’s stuck but but generally refers to a developing country with high rates of poverty, low income, high mortality rate, high levels of political and religious violence, high rates of violent sexual crime etc. characteristics.

Why would you expect a separate referendum on every government decision under a parliamentary democracy?
Not every decision, but the mass immigration of the last twenty five years is probably the biggest demographic change the country has ever been through. The total Roman, Norman and Viking invasion numbers combined over 100s of years would only cover 3 months of average UK recent immigration. Aside from a referendum, popular opinion has always been against mass immigration and when given the opportunity the electorate has consistently voted for Governments that promised to curb it.
Without public buy in of a change this large, I’m afraid all you can expect is an almighty backlash. There’s no use complaining about it now it’s begun, it was inevitable.

Direct quote:

The mass importation of metaphorical shite is what drives this hate, I walk around my local town centre now and it's awash with theft, drug addiction and money laundering. It doesn't take a genius to find the common denominator, they all originate from the same geographical location.

No, you accused me of preferring Ukrainian refugees, rather than Afghan. . Considering my family, I found that very offensive.
You had no evidence for such a statement.
I am not going to discuss Afghanistan with you, I never said the UK was blameless.
I said it's complex.

1. Which countries are third world countries and what does “import the third world get the third world mean.

2. But why would people need to be asked about immigration outside of the usual election process where people could have simply voted for an anti-immigration party.

Or rather how does lack of a targeted referendum mean people were not asked?

I would have no immediate plans to move in the event of a Reform government.

But if I did have to flee I already have funds to move and a 2nd nationality that gives me the right to live and work in that country.

Hopefully will get my 3rd passport sometime next year.

The main reason the UK is in such a mess is because so much money is being taken out of the economy by billionaires. Now I'm not an expert on this so I refer you to Gary Stevenson, but government assets have been bought by the super rich and eventually the cost of living crisis will ensure that many people will have to sell their houses to survive (short-sighted of course but no other option).

But no-one sees it. Everyone blames each other, not understanding what's actually going on. And as I'm sure is obvious, I'm not an expert, but Gary has been betting and making a lot of money with his predictions for a long time.

It’s hilarious that all these pps are clucking about flouncing off to countries which:

are suffering similar crises of governmental stability to the UK
have similar or more draconian attitudes to immigration
don't necessarily want a load of hysterical Brits moving there (Eire, Wales, Scotland, Spain, France etc)

Stay and be there for the Britain you want.

I find this interesting. What do you imagine an independent Scotland would be like which would attract you?
Not being goady, genuine question!

1. Which countries are third world countries and what does “import the third world get the third world mean.

Countries like Pakistan, Somalia would be good examples. You might have me confused with someone else with that quote,but I’d imagine “import the third world get the the third world” means that if enough people immigrate to an area from third world countries then the area will begin to resemble third world countries i.e. high crime, religious extremist violence, sexual violence, increased poverty etc.

1. But why would people need to be asked about immigration outside of the usual election process where people could have simply voted for an anti-immigration party.

They'd need to be asked about such a big decision to avoid conflict and reduce civil unrest. But I agree voting for an anti immigration party is now probably the only way forward.