My son has gone on the march

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Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

The historical context Is relevant in London in particular, it is making people feel uneasy and uncomfortable and this is not fair or right.

The only indoctrination happening is the son being indoctrinated by the racists.

You don't believe anyone should have sincerely held beliefs then?

What an embarrassing comment.

Your son is allowed his own views. You will lose him if you try to control him.

Sure. Just don’t foist them onto others.

What a silly, ill-considered retort. To many millions of people, sport is a welcome distraction from the very pressing concerns of their everyday lives.

That is a different matter.

Sportspeople have come to UK legally and are gainfully and legally employed.

Illegal migrants are just here to "work the system".

The pp was trying to say that the right wing protesters are ‘bad’ people and used the abuse of police as an example.

The op aligns herself with pro Palestine protestors, presumably seeing them as ‘good’, I assume the pp also sees left wing protesters as ‘good’.

I was pointing out that the people who the op and pp perceive as ‘good’ are no less likely to abuse the police.

Unless it’s okay for the left to abuse the police but not the right?

You can’t resist resorting to insults, can you? 😁

Of course it’s aimed at the Government. The right (via right wing media) have been trying to topple Labour since July 2024.

It’s funny we didn’t see protests at hotels and organised marches from 2023 when immigration soared due to Brexit and Johnson’s policies.

Not an insult, the truth.

Migration isn’t a new thing, so give your little brain a rest and stop wondering.

Why is MN suddenly overrun by right wingers these past few days? I know it skews conservative but this is OTT

You haven't responded as to how historical racism in Britain is not relevant, you haven't explained in any detail why you think this context is not relevant, it is not an opinion I have, it is a fact. A fact you wouldn't understand if you didn't grow up in 90s London. Context is everything, what the U.S. feels is irrelevant!

Your son is allowed his own views, keep pushing yours onto him and you will lose him.
He is his own person, not an extension of you.

'Hurty words' threatening to burn them alive.

Yes, it is awful.

I'm sorry OP, I'd find this hard too. Tara Brach has good talks and meditations about this. Best of luck xxx

Responding to direct questions doesn’t seem to be this posters MO.

Susan the UK has solid foundations built on the back of immigration. The current issue with the UK is we have thousands on thousands of undocumented, unknown males entering the country ILLEGALLY who should not be here. On top of this our services are at breaking point, our own people are struggling to make ends meet but we're paying £8 MILLION PER DAY in food & housing for these people whilst our own are on the street. They are also given priority for housing, no one should come before our own!!

You clearly don't have a clue about what's going on.

Just to add many of these males are not fleeing war torn countries and the ones that are have come through many safe countries to get here and they are here to take take take but we're not allowed to say too much otherwise we risk being arrested HENCE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH FESTIVAL today in London.

I could just as easily say all your posts are stupid. ‘It’s the truth.’ No, it’s your opinion, and you don’t advance your argument.

It doesn't actually say. I was wondering too.

Yep.

So the March is just a dressing up party for people without plans on a Saturday?