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Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

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TaupeLemur · 12/09/2025 15:28

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

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DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 23:49

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:48

So there is literally no point to the comment, the video or any of it then? Righto.

Nobody has any idea what you are talking about. Did you want to try and explain?

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:49

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 23:47

That was never my argument…

So, you have no point then? Righto.

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:49

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 23:49

Nobody has any idea what you are talking about. Did you want to try and explain?

So you have no point then? Righto.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 23:50

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:49

So you have no point then? Righto.

Can you point to where you’ve made a point?

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 23:50

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:49

So, you have no point then? Righto.

What exactly is your point? You seem confused.

Worralorra · 12/09/2025 23:51

kkloo · 12/09/2025 23:44

Apparently the earlier reports were wrong, and the dad was never in law enforcement, he ran a construction company.

Ah - thank you! This is so fast-paced I’m struggling to keep up!

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 12/09/2025 23:51

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See, this is more inflammatory hyperbole that you are accusing others of.

Firealarm1414 · 12/09/2025 23:51

Plenty of people would have recognised him from the picture so they would have found him regardless.

His father worked for the sheriffs office, he had no choice but to turn him in really

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:51

Love how the #bekind crew always resort instantly to shrieking abuse, personal insults and demeaning anyone they cannot score a point off of 😅

Anyway, to recap, I would never have to make the choice to hand my son in as he is not a hard left lunatic who would slaughter a man in front of his kids, that's just not a decision I would ever have to make.

But the man who did this should be publicly executed, and we need to bring back public executions for paedophiles too.

InMyShowgirlEra · 12/09/2025 23:52

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I think the majority of normal children grow up in households which DON'T want a return to medieval era public executions. But maybe you might be happier in Afghanistan, I hear that watching people be killed is a popular pass-time for the Taliban. CK had a lot in common with them.

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:52

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 23:50

What exactly is your point? You seem confused.

So, you have no point then? Righto.

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:53

InMyShowgirlEra · 12/09/2025 23:52

I think the majority of normal children grow up in households which DON'T want a return to medieval era public executions. But maybe you might be happier in Afghanistan, I hear that watching people be killed is a popular pass-time for the Taliban. CK had a lot in common with them.

How strange that you are abnormally upset about child rapists being excecuted and are now fantasising about the Taliban for some reason.

Keep telling yourself you're normal. Hard drive check required.

InMyShowgirlEra · 12/09/2025 23:54

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:53

How strange that you are abnormally upset about child rapists being excecuted and are now fantasising about the Taliban for some reason.

Keep telling yourself you're normal. Hard drive check required.

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I think you need a medication review. Thoughts and prayers to you.

kkloo · 12/09/2025 23:54

Firealarm1414 · 12/09/2025 23:51

Plenty of people would have recognised him from the picture so they would have found him regardless.

His father worked for the sheriffs office, he had no choice but to turn him in really

Apparently those reports were wrong and the dad was never in law enforcement.

CNN are also reporting that the suspect had said that he'd rather commit suicide than turn himself in, so the dad was in a very difficult spot.

Of course you'd be terrified of turning him in, death penalty or no death penalty, because he's never going to step foot outside of prison again for the rest of his life, but suicide/being killed by the cops would be the more pressing immediate concern, there was absolutely no way he would have got away with it or been able to go on the run, he was Americas number 1 most wanted so there was no hope whatsoever of getting away with it.

Anon501178 · 12/09/2025 23:55

I'm suprised so many people are so against using the death penalty at all, and interested as to why that is? Is it because it then feels like they are escaping facing their punishment?

I certainly think it should be administered carefully, but not sure how anyone can want proven evil monsters like the Southport killer, Wayne cousins, or Ian Huntley (could name many more) walking the earth and wasting taxpayers money being kept alive for years for no reason.
People who have done crimes too awful to ever be rehabilitated for are a waste of oxygen.

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 23:55

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:51

Love how the #bekind crew always resort instantly to shrieking abuse, personal insults and demeaning anyone they cannot score a point off of 😅

Anyway, to recap, I would never have to make the choice to hand my son in as he is not a hard left lunatic who would slaughter a man in front of his kids, that's just not a decision I would ever have to make.

But the man who did this should be publicly executed, and we need to bring back public executions for paedophiles too.

The only person shrieking abuse and personal insults is you, also @ThatWaryOchreQuoter .

Your views are certainly extreme.

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:55

InMyShowgirlEra · 12/09/2025 23:54

I think you need a medication review. Thoughts and prayers to you.

I think you are projecting heavily because you are enraged that you have made it clear you find the notion of executing child rapists terribly upsetting. For some reason. No thoughts and prayers to you at all.

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:57

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 23:55

The only person shrieking abuse and personal insults is you, also @ThatWaryOchreQuoter .

Your views are certainly extreme.

This is a lie, though. But I guess that's all you have.

How bizarre to pretend to believe that executing people who rape children is extreme.

And your pretence that I insulted anyone at all before they attempted and failed to insult me just shows you have no argument.

Why are you so upset about the execution of men who rape children? That's the real question.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 23:58

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If you’d bothered to read, you’d have noticed I have condemned his murder multiple times. And if you’d bothered to watch, you’d notice it was Charlie Kirk who said that about his children, and I’ve been disagreeing with it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/s/mX2PMczjQZ

I’m both bemused by your lack of comprehension, and really disturbed that you seem to be in support of the awful things he said about his children. You should probably see someone about that, because it’s really not ok.

InMyShowgirlEra · 13/09/2025 00:01

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:57

This is a lie, though. But I guess that's all you have.

How bizarre to pretend to believe that executing people who rape children is extreme.

And your pretence that I insulted anyone at all before they attempted and failed to insult me just shows you have no argument.

Why are you so upset about the execution of men who rape children? That's the real question.

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Because most normal, balanced people, even those who agree with the death penalty, don't think watching people die should be public entertainment regardless of what crime they have committed.

If you can't see why it's sick to want people to be killed in public then only a therapist can help you.

Plastictreees · 13/09/2025 00:01

stoptheworldiwanna · 12/09/2025 23:57

This is a lie, though. But I guess that's all you have.

How bizarre to pretend to believe that executing people who rape children is extreme.

And your pretence that I insulted anyone at all before they attempted and failed to insult me just shows you have no argument.

Why are you so upset about the execution of men who rape children? That's the real question.

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Why are you so angry and combative? You are obsessed with the idea of ‘arguing’, i guess you can vent your frustrations on here without repercussions. I hope that’s helpful for you.

I, and many other reasonable human beings, do not agree with state sanctioned murder. You may have noticed it’s not been legal in the UK for quite some time.

stoptheworldiwanna · 13/09/2025 00:02

InMyShowgirlEra · 13/09/2025 00:01

Because most normal, balanced people, even those who agree with the death penalty, don't think watching people die should be public entertainment regardless of what crime they have committed.

If you can't see why it's sick to want people to be killed in public then only a therapist can help you.

Nope, most normal balanced people want or would be perfectly fine with the public execution of child rapists and would absolutely never get upset over a throwaway comment about it.

If you can't see that being triggered by this is extreme and bizarre then no therapist can help you.

TheJoyOfWriting · 13/09/2025 00:03

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 20:37

I am not sorry for saying his daughters will be better off in the long run. Their father didn’t believe they should be allowed to vote, or have an education unless it was with the express purpose of finding a husband. He believed they should have to carry rape babies even as children themselves. He believed they should submit to their husbands in all things - so domestic violence, marital rape - they should just suck it up. They are better off.

Did he really support DV, , marital rape? And no votes for women?

This is not true. Unless you have proof? He said a lot of grim stuff but nothing like that bad.

stoptheworldiwanna · 13/09/2025 00:04

Plastictreees · 13/09/2025 00:01

Why are you so angry and combative? You are obsessed with the idea of ‘arguing’, i guess you can vent your frustrations on here without repercussions. I hope that’s helpful for you.

I, and many other reasonable human beings, do not agree with state sanctioned murder. You may have noticed it’s not been legal in the UK for quite some time.

Why are you so angry and combative? You are obsessed with idea of "arguing". I guess you can vent your frustration on here without repercussions. Don't care if that's helpful for you.

I, and most reasonable human beings, agree with the execution of child rapists. The real question is why are you so triggered by that throwaway comment.

People who immediately leap to any defence at all of child rapists are not, by any means, normal or standard or reasonable.

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