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Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

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TaupeLemur · 12/09/2025 15:28

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

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Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 22:41

@MyLimeGuide You aren’t making any sense. No one is celebrating murder. Your posts are really bizarre.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:41

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:39

Sooooo many people have said that!!! And you know it!!!!

Then go ahead and show us one. Go on.

Absolutely nobody has said he deserved his murder or that they were proactively hoping somebody would shoot him, but they do think that someone who promoted hate at every turn is not a loss to humanity, and therefore they are not sad about his death. And those are not the same thing.

WhereIsMyJumper · 12/09/2025 22:41

TaupeLemur · 12/09/2025 22:38

He beliefs appear to have motivated him to kill someone, no?

Yes, good point. I think I was trying to make the distinction as you wouldn’t receive the death penalty for simply holding beliefs, only if you acted on those beliefs by committing murder.

RingoJuice · 12/09/2025 22:41

WhereIsMyJumper · 12/09/2025 22:34

I couldn’t give a shit if the shooter was a dyed in the wool leftie or a right wing nutter. I abhor extremism on either side - any political opinions that an individual holds that lead him to commit murder for are extreme views.

It’s just a typical leftist projection. He was a leftist, which we knew since the casings were discovered. You can see an interview with someone who knew him here: www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah

Shewasafaireh · 12/09/2025 22:42

Another2Cats · 12/09/2025 20:38

So you wouldn't for a very deliberate and calculated murder - as people have said, an assassination?

"If it was something else - ie child abuse - then absolutely yes."

I would be very interested to understand your reasoning here (very serious question indeed).

So, if your son were to abuse a child then you would report him, but if he murdered that child then you would not?

How about if he abused the child and then murdered her? Would you hand him in then?

I meant not for this but definitely for anything child related, violence over women, etc.

In this case, would be found regardless and will be made an example of (they’re calling for the death penalty already) so there would be no need for me to be the one to hand him over.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:44

RingoJuice · 12/09/2025 22:41

It’s just a typical leftist projection. He was a leftist, which we knew since the casings were discovered. You can see an interview with someone who knew him here: www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah

I mean, that’s what they currently say that the shell casings say. Yesterday they were reporting they had trans ideology on them so let’s see what they say tomorrow. We do know for a fact that he wasn’t a registered voter for either party but his family are all registered republicans, however.

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:44

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 22:41

@MyLimeGuide You aren’t making any sense. No one is celebrating murder. Your posts are really bizarre.

It’s the children are better off without him type posts the pp is responding to.

YankSplaining · 12/09/2025 22:45

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:37

Nobody on here is saying they are pleased he was murdered. I think you can not want to see him shot and also not be sorry he's dead. Those are different things. I suspect this is what quite a lot of people are actually feeling, but aren't articulating it well. They weren't proactively hoping somebody would shoot him, but they do think that someone who promoted hate at every turn is not a loss to humanity.

She said she’d never turn her child over unless they were a pedophile or a sex offender, but if she were in the position of the killer’s parents, she’d “do everything in my power to make sure they didn't catch him” because “it's not like [the killer] killed a child.” That’s indefensible to me.

Plastictreees · 12/09/2025 22:45

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:44

It’s the children are better off without him type posts the pp is responding to.

I don’t think that makes people psychos, neither does it mean they’re celebrating murder?

Cadenza12 · 12/09/2025 22:46

One thing that is bothering me, everyone assumes this man is guilty. People confess to crimes they didn't commit for all sorts of reasons. Perhaps it's best to wait for a trial before jumping the gun? So to speak.

Dearnurse · 12/09/2025 22:47

I have said I do not agree with what happened to him , I am against all gun violence the question that was asked was "would you hand in your child if they did this " & I said no I wouldn't if they where hurting children or doing sex crimes then yes I would & I would also hand them in for a mass shooting but not for this because I feel this was done as a political assignation rather than killing for pleasure or sport (all of which I believe are very wrong including charlie kirks murder) so he's not necessarily a physcopath.I wasn't debating that it should have happened, its obviously really bad as nobody should be murdered, I won't pretend I don't think the world would be better off without people like him because I hate people like him i hate all fascists. But as I have said in another post if it was my son no I wouldn't hand him over because within some reason I would do anything to protect my children, including killing or dying obviously I will never be in this position, i am personally extremely worried about the far right movement and for all people of colour that maybe subjected to violence because of this act.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:47

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:44

It’s the children are better off without him type posts the pp is responding to.

Which is also not the same as celebrating his death. Do you think 9 or 10 year old children should be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies? If you don’t think so then you agree that in that respect his daughters are better off as they would no longer be forced to do that.

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:48

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:44

It’s the children are better off without him type posts the pp is responding to.

Thankyou! Yes all pretty awful IMO to say your children would be better of without you isn't really that far off saying its a good thing you are dead.

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:49

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:47

Which is also not the same as celebrating his death. Do you think 9 or 10 year old children should be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies? If you don’t think so then you agree that in that respect his daughters are better off as they would no longer be forced to do that.

You are like a broken record.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:49

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:48

Thankyou! Yes all pretty awful IMO to say your children would be better of without you isn't really that far off saying its a good thing you are dead.

So, you think little girls should have to carry and give birth to rape babies?

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:50

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:49

So, you think little girls should have to carry and give birth to rape babies?

This is not the topic. And NO is my answer.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 12/09/2025 22:51

Coconutter24 · 12/09/2025 22:40

What’s a mental illness?

clinically significant disturbance in a person's emotional regulation, cognition, or behavior. Mental illness is often associated with impairment or distress in important areas of functioning.

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:51

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:49

You are like a broken record.

I’m following the Charlie Kirk debating technique so you of all people should be lapping it up Grin

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:52

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:50

This is not the topic. And NO is my answer.

In that case, you also agree that his girls are better off. He would have forced them to do that, and now he is dead he can no longer force his children to give birth to a rapist’s baby. They are better off. Glad you’ve finally got it!

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:55

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:47

Which is also not the same as celebrating his death. Do you think 9 or 10 year old children should be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies? If you don’t think so then you agree that in that respect his daughters are better off as they would no longer be forced to do that.

Obviously not but it’s not that or a person’s death is better.

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:55

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:52

In that case, you also agree that his girls are better off. He would have forced them to do that, and now he is dead he can no longer force his children to give birth to a rapist’s baby. They are better off. Glad you’ve finally got it!

Bizarre tbh

Underthinker · 12/09/2025 22:56

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:47

Which is also not the same as celebrating his death. Do you think 9 or 10 year old children should be forced to give birth to their rapists’ babies? If you don’t think so then you agree that in that respect his daughters are better off as they would no longer be forced to do that.

In the million to one chance that they are raped at age 9 or 10, get pregnant and carry the baby to term, they are better off because their father is dead?

What about the far more likely scenario where they don't get raped as children, but do have to grow up without their father, and have to live with the trauma of having seen him murdered in front of their eyes?

InWalksBarberalla · 12/09/2025 22:56

DorothyGaleFromKansas · 12/09/2025 22:44

I mean, that’s what they currently say that the shell casings say. Yesterday they were reporting they had trans ideology on them so let’s see what they say tomorrow. We do know for a fact that he wasn’t a registered voter for either party but his family are all registered republicans, however.

One media outlook jumped the gun and said the casings had trans ideology on them - based on an internal police report that even said they were still trying to interpret them. So nobody official at any point said anything about trans ideology.

Underthinker · 12/09/2025 22:56

EasternStandard · 12/09/2025 22:55

Bizarre tbh

Insanity.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 12/09/2025 22:57

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2025 22:37

This is an absolutely mental thread! I've had my posts deleted for challenging celebrating murder! Not of a criminal, but for someone innocent with opposing religious/political views. im still in utter shock that this is really how humans think! And act! Im done with this thread! Im going into hiding!

It’s current left wing ideology, it’s just a huge problem now. It reminds me of some sort of witch hunter cult from the Middle Ages. If one good thing comes out of this, it’s that something will start to be done about them.

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